from nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone to science_memes@mander.xyz on 20 Aug 2024 11:58
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15600676
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the lichen knowledge iceberg i have constructed on request.
jhanettesticle replies:
we cant make lichen happen in a lab? have we tried taking the parts that make up a lichen and throwing them together in a petri dish?
bogleech replies:
The deranged fucked up dark sided thing about lichen is that the exact species comprising it don’t even necessarily determine the type of lichen. You can have what seems to be the same lichen in two different locations using different symbiotes, or two different looking lichen turn out to have the very same symbiotes. So it’s not even that they form when the right component species meet up, because that doesn’t always have a predictable result. Something in the environment tells them to build a lichen. Something that makes sense to them but has no meaning to us yet. Whatever it is cannot be imitated by us, in fact if you move a lichen indoors - or move it at all, really - it’s all but guaranteed to stop being a lichen or just due, even if you try to recreate the climate you found it in!
Only one truth is certain:
Lichens are things.
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Bless you for doing the work of the Lord (Lichen Out to Read Dis)
What the fuck is lichen
It’s a thing that grows on trees and rocks mostly, but can and does grow on basically anything in the goldilocks conditions. They feel like crispy moss if you touch them.
They thrive in graveyards…
*off screen* Me too!
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If
makes more sense to me than
Does that make me a goth?
I’m sorry but, I’m not a physician and thus am not qualified to provide medical advice.
Just need to build a lab in a graveyard then. Checkmate lichens!
What if it’s how our souls are released. Man I’m high and that thought still gives me the call of the void lol
The short answer: fungus and algae work together and create a multi-organism structure.
The medium answer: [this meme]
The long answer: [years of graduate school]
Lichen deez nuts
gottem
It’s the opposite of not lichen.
And that’s both a pithy retort, as well as an accurate reflection of the ultimate gist of the infographic lol
I’m no biologist, but I’m pretty sure that this photo I took a while back has a lot of lichen:
<img alt="" src="https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/bfc33f52-86fe-40b7-a034-76fbaeaebbf7.jpeg">
That flakey & coral-looking stuff growing on the branches should be lichen.
A containment protocol for an ancient plague.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichen
For anyone else who was curious about lichens covering “a not insignificant amount” of the earth’s surface, a quick google tells me it’s about 7% (according to e.g. new york times, scientific american, etc)
Edit: oh and estimating the age of an exposed surface by lichen diameter is called lichenometry. I’m seeing stuff about it being used in geological contexts but it makes sense that it could work for old buildings too
i imagine alien hivemind organisms looking at earth and our cities upon it and thinking “what are these growths and why aren’t the samples we collect producing them?”
And I thought mushrooms were complicated…
We can’t even grow most bacteria in labs. It’s a pretty small subset that work with the traditional agar petri dish set up.
Gotta love oligotrophy. Some lichens grow inside rocks… definitely can’t replicate that in a lab (although not for lack of trying).
And that doesn’t even get to the level of Archaea. Some of which we only know about because of genetic material.
Relevant MinuteEarth: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VY_SBwkCjw
I would like to propose an addition to the Forbidden Knowledge list:
Will we get Orkz one day when some mad scientist decides to cross lichen with Florida man?
I’m sure it’s not unusual for Florida men to have lichen growing on them, so we’re probably halfway there already.
Whispered:
I’ve never thought about it. I always just assumed lichen was just a specific type of moss.
Same. The more I learn about fungus and their related kin, the more I realize I don’t get them lol.
For anyone interested, I really recommend the book / audio book Entangled Life by Merlin Sheldrake.
I liked the book so much that I later on bought the audio book. It’s entertaining, filled with facts, but not overly scientific to a degree where it can’t be enjoyed by a layman.
www.goodreads.com/book/…/52668915-entangled-life
Thanks! Definitely saving this comment for future reading.
To be fair, based on mycology memes I’ve seen nobody gets fungi or their kin. (Nobody who knows enough to listen to, at least.)
That’s why they scare me and I refuse to eat them
Huh. phys.org/…/2016-03-fossil-oldest-land-dweller.htm…
Is a forest with a good mycorrhizal network a huge lichen…?
Technically? Maybe.
the real lichen is the friends we- oh god, oh god no jerry not you too
Id watch a 2h youtube video about this 👀
I’d sink a months worth of time and ADHD medication on this
oh my god @nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone what gave you done. here goes my free time
i’m sorry, i know not the power i wield
So, I opened this without looking at the source community. I’m on an RPG meme community as well. I was actually predicting a pun on a certain phylactery-using undead. Only as it was loading did I realize I had a chance for the science memes sub instead.
i did try to work a lich joke in the title but i couldn’t think of anything natural or forced enough to be funny. submissions are open though
For fun related fiction viewing, I recommend the horror films:
Gaia
Into the Earth
Both are about “what would happen if nature got mad?” No, not like The Happening
Does “The Last Of Us” count here?
Probably should, right?
Omg thank you, I’ve only seen Gaia once but I loved it and I forgot the name!
The happening. Man I’m still mad I spent time watching that. And I really don’t value my time lmao
Meanwhile, it’s BFF moss is something like 90% dead plant matter and just a derpy slow sponge. Pinky and the brain.
What I got out of this is that Dax from DS9 was probably a lichen
I fucking hate the fact that this 100 story tall image format has become the default on the internet…