If You Take Enough You Can See *The Pattern* Bro
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 14 Sep 17:39
https://mander.xyz/post/37972117

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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz on 14 Sep 17:45 next collapse

If what we perceive as reality is a simulation the purpose is quite clear, to observe the behavior of overconfident idiots unfettered by the mediating tendencies of a too reasonable reality.

HyonoKo@lemmy.ml on 14 Sep 18:22 next collapse

Maybe it’s some higher dimensional grad student simulating something to get some plots to add to a poster his postdoc wants him to present at a small time conference somewhere. Our consciousness is just a side effect because he insisted in doing the coding in Haskell.

Naz@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 18:47 next collapse

That’s so many nested assumptions, lol:

Assumption table

  1. Graduate student in academia
  2. Running a simulation for data
  3. For a conference
  4. Haskell

The probability value of all four being true simultaneously approaches ≈0%

Don’t forget the sheer, mind-destroying size of the universe, and its age.

angrystego@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 19:15 next collapse

Come on, it doesn’t work like this. You can disprove the funny theory only if you give us an even more ridiculous one in it’s stead.

[deleted] on 14 Sep 20:53 collapse

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muzzle@lemmy.zip on 14 Sep 20:54 next collapse

Don’t forget the sheer, mind-destroying size of the universe, and its age.

Most of it is empty. The trick is lazy evaluation.

LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 21:03 next collapse

Yeah, it uses a simplified model unless you look too close. That’s how you get those funny quantum effects. Although, I have to say, great sativa, dude

Valmond@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 22:07 collapse

Our telescopes eats up CPU cycles fast, the poor blokes cloud server will come with an unsuspecting bill this month…

Supervisor194@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 23:11 collapse

Don’t forget the sheer, mind-destroying size of the universe, and its age.

I mean, if it’s really a simulation, all of that would be… simulated.

Naz@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 23:16 collapse

I know; I’m just fishing out counter-examples and counter-arguments.

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 14 Sep 19:45 next collapse

Your reply kinda reminds me of Thirteenth Floor.

Olhonestjim@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 23:45 next collapse

Maybe it’s some kid’s half-assed science project.

bobo@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 07:06 collapse

Our consciousness is just a side effect because he insisted in doing the coding in Haskell.

Lisp is the true God’s programming language…

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwobithistory.org%2Fimages%2Fbyte_lisp.jpg">

HyonoKo@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 08:06 collapse

Wow awesome cover!

shneancy@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 21:29 collapse

and honestly, even if it is a simulation, so what? do you have a way to get out? can you even exist outside of it? do you hurt or love any less knowing that? what are you supposed to do about it? give up? lay your simulation body on the simulation dirt and simulation die?

none of it really matters does it, especially because you can’t know if it’s possible to leave/exist outside. as far as you know this life is still the only thing that is certain

Shanmugha@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 21:59 next collapse

Exactly this. Thank you for spelling it out

krunklom@lemmy.zip on 14 Sep 22:27 next collapse

If it’s a simulation someone must be running it. Maybe we could get their attention somehow.

Praying obviously doesn’t work. Maybe if we all stripped naked and just kind of started getting it on in a giant juicy fuck pile that would get their attention.

And they could make things suck less.

chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Sep 23:21 next collapse

Shit, it’s broken again, where’s the reset button?

dmention7@midwest.social on 15 Sep 00:14 next collapse

If I was playing The Sims, and one of my Sims started showing un-mistakeable signs of self awareness, I would panic and ctrl-alt-delete that shit so fast.

Maybe its better if we DMT-and-lasers our way into a plan before we start banging on the glass.

krunklom@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 00:22 next collapse

I’d just sims harder but that’s just me

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 15 Sep 06:12 collapse

They go for a swim without a ladder when they displease the elder gods.

krunklom@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 06:14 collapse

This is the way

Natanael@infosec.pub on 15 Sep 10:54 collapse

Last Thursdayism is when they reload the save

AppleTea@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 01:51 collapse

That’s assuming the someone running the simulation is even aware we are here. For all we know, they’re just trying to model out the behavior of stars and black holes.

krunklom@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 01:55 collapse

That’s why we should get all up in each others’ holes

Scubus@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 00:41 next collapse

Roll up a simulation joint and get simulation high

lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Sep 05:37 collapse

Absurdism is your friend. If nothing matters in the long run, if all of existence is absurd, why not enjoy the here and now?

shneancy@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 08:57 collapse

yes, been a fan of Camus’s philosophy since i was 16ish

redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Sep 17:53 next collapse

That’s just a primed and guided trip lol

Transform2942@lemmy.ml on 14 Sep 19:11 next collapse

Didn’t you know? In addition to trains tech bros also invented psychedelics

bobo@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 06:56 collapse

According to the dude, people with no foreknowledge also saw the same things. “Seeing the code of the matrix” definitely sounds better than “DMT enhances random patterns”.

ladicius@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 17:54 next collapse

Is that a curable condition?

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz on 14 Sep 19:44 next collapse

Yeah I can walk you through treatment. We’re just going to need a little DMT

toofpic@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 19:58 collapse

Laser eye damage? Not so much

whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 18:26 next collapse

DMT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

zout@fedia.io on 14 Sep 19:27 collapse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_terephthalate

TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 03:57 collapse

uwu polyester me daddy

woodenghost@hexbear.net on 14 Sep 18:56 next collapse

That laser is way too close to his eyes. Anyway, probably just seeing the speckle pattern, which granted, can look really cool and moves with your head as you tilt it.

pH3ra@lemmy.ml on 14 Sep 19:55 next collapse

I never needed the laser

crusa187@lemmy.ml on 14 Sep 21:30 collapse

right?.. just a DMT vape huh?

pH3ra@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 05:32 collapse

I’m old dude, we didn’t have vapes: if you wanted to meet your higher self you had to use a bong or a pipe

InvalidName2@lemmy.zip on 14 Sep 20:22 next collapse

I’ll buy that for a dollar.

wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 04:49 collapse

Here, you want a mind fuck? I’ll let you have it for free:

Bell’s Theorem: The universe is not locally real (either the speed of light is violable or properties of things do not exist until observed). Light simultaneously takes all paths, and so does everything else if given the right conditions. We just perceive “Location” as a property things have because of probability and the fact that all of the other potential locations have probability functions that average out to zero (not a quantum physicist, so probably not using quite the right terms there). “Everything” literally is “Everywhere, All At Once”. The world that we perceive is nothing more or less than a vast ocean of waves within overlapping fields. The interference between the waves, the troughs and crests, are the objects we perceive. Nothing is truly as you see it, even yourself. Also, the force of gravity doesn’t exist. Time just passes slower near massive objects.

That’s the best I can do for ya. First hit’s free.

KeenFlame@feddit.nu on 15 Sep 20:01 collapse

I don’t see how these facts of physics say anything about our reality being simulated? Or even contradicting if we really exist etc? I mean they can get your imagination going sure but being able to verify the human experience is the penultimate arbiter

LillyPip@lemmy.ca on 14 Sep 20:38 next collapse

Yeah, drugs and looking into lasers will definitely change your brain, no doubt. Dunno if I want advice from someone who does that, tho…

belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org on 14 Sep 20:43 next collapse

Not gonna see much it he keeps putting lasers in his eyes

Guillotine_Erotica@hexbear.net on 14 Sep 21:37 next collapse

Ever seen vape smoke in lasers… On weeeeeed

Fleur_@aussie.zone on 14 Sep 22:06 next collapse

“yeah yeah the simulation lasers, we’ve all seen it”

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 14 Sep 22:10 next collapse

In our lanoratory I remember an warning sign:

Do not look at the laser with the remaining eye !!

Gobbel2000@programming.dev on 14 Sep 22:26 next collapse

Ah, from the picture I thought he would teach us how to read barcodes (which do underpin human reality), but it’s just some boring simulation stuff.

Natanael@infosec.pub on 15 Sep 10:53 collapse

Same lmao

Pretty sure he’s misunderstanding interference patterns

Patches@ttrpg.network on 14 Sep 23:15 next collapse

Can show you the secrets of the universe using a DMT Pen and…

Anyone else get “Thinking quickly, Dave constructs a homemade megaphone, using only some string, a squirrel, and a megaphone.” vibes.

RebekahWSD@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 23:34 collapse

I still think of that scene at least once a month and giggle!

kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 05:16 collapse

Sorry out of the loop here - what’s this a scene from?

lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Sep 05:32 collapse

Dave the Barbarian is an American cartoon series produced by Disney that ran for one season between 2004 and 2005. The show is about a cowardly barbarian named Dave who is tasked with protecting the kingdom, as well as the princess, while his parents are away fighting evil.

KYM Entry about the scene

kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 06:05 collapse

Thank you!

neidu3@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 23:35 next collapse

Well, a friend of mine took acid with a TV in the room, and it enabled him to see what was behind the signal, between the scanlines, on the other side of the picture. He then saw the message that held the secret to unlocking the truth of the universe.

It said: LSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSDLSD

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 00:09 next collapse

Bro is about to reinvent shamanism

xia@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Sep 00:26 next collapse

“Let’s see how close I can get the lasers to my eyes without going blind…”

Thordros@hexbear.net on 15 Sep 00:33 next collapse

Oh my god, I knew it! He’s crackred the code!!

ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net on 15 Sep 00:54 next collapse

The word “just” before the words “DMT vape” is doing heavier lifting than a crane at a shipyard

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today on 15 Sep 01:54 collapse

What do you mean? You can’t source mimosa root in bulk locally? Lol! Clearly not ready to start your own cult. SMH my head

Kintarian@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 00:58 next collapse

I did that with LSD 40 years ago.

derry@midwest.social on 15 Sep 01:03 next collapse

“Could you see the day? Could you feel your whole world fall apart and fade away?

Get along, get along, Kid Charlemagne Get along, Kid Charlemagne”

Nasalstrip@hexbear.net on 15 Sep 01:20 next collapse

Waiter, waiter! More headlines like this please

Fedizen@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 02:10 next collapse

This guy needs to jack off more.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 02:42 collapse

I think we all need to jack off more. People are wound far too tight these days.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 02:33 next collapse

I don’t know who needs to hear this, but people, please do not take psychedelics and put lasers near your eyes.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 04:20 next collapse

Emphasis on AND. Putting lasers near your eyes is a sober activity.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 17:42 collapse

This is true. Laser Doppler Vibrometry and Atomic Force Microscopy are two legitimate examples of using lasers near your eyes while sober.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 19:40 collapse

Im working my way up intensity to build an immunity. I’m all the way to class IV indirect. Hoping to achieve direct by the next eclipse so I don’t need my Raybans.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 23:51 collapse

When you gain the superpower to shoot lasers from your eyeballs, I am going to have a few contracts for you.

Agent641@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 06:20 next collapse

I’m sorry, I thought this was America!

frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Sep 11:48 next collapse

Do not take psychedelic with remaining eye.

ameancow@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 15:52 next collapse

laser light has this way of enhancing interference patterns as it spreads out, this is why it has weird looking patterns when projected in a wide angle.

This is also probably what the person in this post was seeing and tripping on, staring directly into a laser pointer while high as balls.

traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Sep 20:20 collapse

It appears to be on some sort of apparatus that can make it draw a line, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some gimmick that makes it actually draw cryptic letters or something too

niktemadur@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 16:57 collapse

Take psychedelics, why not, go for it.
Put lasers near your eyes, absolutely.
But never, EVER, take psychedelics
and ALWAYS put salt in your eyes!

Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 04:05 next collapse

The dmt is doing the heavy lifting there.

mudstickmcgee@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 05:42 next collapse

I was just about to say😅 with enough dmt anything is a simulation. Lasers are just for aesthetics

icelimit@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 08:02 next collapse

Does Dmt know something we don’t?

Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 08:07 next collapse

Your body knows dmt should deployed at the time of death. Maybe its uploading you to the cloud.

icelimit@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 09:00 collapse

I always wanted to be with the fluffy stuff. Great!

polydactyl@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 12:18 collapse

Spill the dmtee

exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 15:09 collapse

Like the Kumail Nanjiani joke about a new drug called “cheese,” made by mixing Tylenol PM with heroin.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 17:22 collapse

If anyone was curious the reason for “cheese” is to turn black tar heroin into a snortable powder. It’s not really well known because people who buy tar smoke it or inject it and if you wanted to snort heroin you would just buy powder form, but powder used to be hard to find on the west coast until fentanyl became big.

Nikls94@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 04:10 next collapse

Dimethyltryptamine. Shit‘s got the TRYP already in the name bro.

funkajunk@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 05:30 next collapse

Even if we were in a simulation, we only exist inside of it and knowledge of whether or not we are “real” doesn’t actually change our interaction with the time and space inside our universe.

anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Sep 10:09 next collapse

The only thing one could do with knowledge of being in a simulation, is trying to find bugs and exploits.
From now on, I expect anyone claiming we live in a simulation to have a working perpetual motion device, faster that light communication, or something similarly impressive. If they don’t, their claim is meaningless useless.

funkajunk@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 13:12 collapse

Just because they can’t find exploits in a simulation sophisticated enough to run a seemingly infinite universe doesn’t mean there’s no simulation.

anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Sep 15:05 next collapse

I know, but otherwise there is no use for the knowledge that we live in a simulation. Unless someone can contact the outside of course.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 15:33 collapse

No, but it does mean they have no evidence of being in a simulation.

Which is about as meaningless as saying we live in a universe dreamed up by Azathoth.

RedFrank24@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 12:45 next collapse

Great, I’ve been suffering through Capitalism and now I have to learn that it’s not even real Capitalism.

chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net on 15 Sep 16:05 collapse

It’s failing just like real capitalism. Or succeeding I guess…if you’re a sociopath.

Simulation6@sopuli.xyz on 15 Sep 16:41 collapse

Theory is that the human (and maybe other) brain creates a simulation of the world experienced through the senses and that ‘you’ interact with that. Everybody has their own simulation, no code to speak of. Drugs can ‘hack’ it by messing with the simulation and perception.

tomjuggler@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 06:05 next collapse

Not sure how you can it these days, but I recommend static on a TV over this.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 15 Sep 07:33 collapse

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubFq-wV3Eic

KeenFlame@feddit.nu on 15 Sep 19:44 collapse

It didn’t work

tomjuggler@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 05:13 collapse

It’s AI - I watched the whole thing.

KeenFlame@feddit.nu on 17 Sep 06:19 collapse

What I mean is - youtube compression destroys the effect. And why do you think it’s AI?

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 15 Sep 07:22 next collapse

Heheh. Reminds me of the guy I knew who did a DMT trip and claimed to be able to see between the atoms and retrieve lost memories.

fckreddit@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 09:03 collapse

Maybe the lost memories were meant to stay lost? Who knows what eldritch horrors we uncover? I think the lost memories should stay that way: lost.

Lemmynated@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 09:07 next collapse

Bring on the lost memories, if the world ends in abject horror, well it’s only speeding up what’s happening.

ameancow@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 15:50 collapse

Memory is one of the weirdest things about the human experience, it’s still relatively unknown how we store and “revisit” memories on some levels, and our memories are not records like photographs or data on a hard-drive, they’re really more like saved simulations that you rerun every time you bring them up, this is why they can be so radically wrong or distorted from actual events. Every time you run that simulation your brain will “smooth out the edges” and fill in gaps with whatever it predicts should be there.

Your brain is so good at doing this, that you can easily wire yourself to have false memories. Most people are unsettled by this prospect but you can use it for fun! Example: I have altered my own memory of the 2004 disaster film “The Day After Tomorrow” to also include Frankenstein’s Monster as one of the dangers of the frozen world, and have clear memories of Frankenstein’s Monster clomping around with his pack of wolves looking for the protagonist. Great movie, highly recommend you watch and re-write in your mind.

chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net on 15 Sep 16:02 next collapse

I read about this idea before with a tidbit about how because of this your best and worst memories are your least reliable. Cool thought!

fckreddit@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 17:58 collapse

I remember being taught something that resembles the idea, you wrote, when I took a course on cognition during my PhD. Memory is probably the most fascinating aspect of cognition to me, TBH.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 15 Sep 07:37 next collapse

Crazy people were spreading stupid shit like this on youtube for decades but I would really like to know why Vice thinks this is newsworthy now. Did the society became so stupid that being an idiot influences is now a valid profession?

Agent641@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 09:18 next collapse

Idiots get clicks and clicks make line go up

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 11:53 next collapse

Slow news day at their office

ameancow@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 15:44 next collapse

Did the society became so stupid that being an idiot influences is now a valid profession?

Yeah.

reksas@sopuli.xyz on 15 Sep 17:12 collapse

being a court fool or village idiot have been professions too. The problem nowdays is that too many people look up to the idiots as someone to seriously listen to, not as entertainment.

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 16:00 collapse

Remember the dude with the immortality rings?

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 15 Sep 18:24 next collapse

No and I’m afraid to ask.

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 23:56 collapse

Alex Chiu. It’s not as funny as it should be but it’s still funny.

Bentov@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 22:19 collapse

Alex Chiu? I think that is his name…I haven’t thought about those in years.

drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Sep 08:21 next collapse

I didn’t know DMT came in vape form. What a time to be alive.

ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 12:29 collapse

well it’s always vaporized, burning it will destroy it…
but it turns out, with a little chemistry you can put anything into a vape

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 13:29 collapse

I’m a thing, Greg. Can you put me in a vape?

TheMinister@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 14:14 next collapse

With the right tools, yes. I could vape you.

ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Sep 14:52 next collapse

sure, i just need a crematorium, and a mortar and pestle…

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 22:10 next collapse

I suddenly regret my taunt…

thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz on 17 Sep 03:48 collapse

My son and I have been watching the new season of Wednesday, and I could not help but read this comment in Jenna Ortega’s voice.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 15 Sep 15:00 next collapse

What do you taste like?

ZombieMantis@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 15:43 collapse

Only once.

pigup@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 13:53 next collapse

Where DMT pen

MrSulu@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 16:05 next collapse

He’s the Messiah…

roundup5381@sh.itjust.works on 15 Sep 18:30 next collapse

This article makes me regret telling elon about simulation theory at burning man that one time

_stranger_@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 20:04 collapse
Siethron@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 18:31 next collapse

The dude’s fully learned advanced physics?

leadore@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 22:26 next collapse

Comments all seem to refer to an article and this post doesn’t link to any article. ? (edit: never mind, I looked up the name and I don’t need to see anything more).

Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 00:31 collapse

Hmm if I say that if you add magic mushrooms to the mix you can change the simulation to your advantage, will you follow me? I could use the extra cash.