It was exploded, then turned onto something green eventually, then something haunted consumed and excreted it, then something WAY MORE HAUNTED did a bunch of weird shit to it like letting little things fart in it.
Such delicious spacedust.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee
on 03 Sep 2024 19:39
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Excellent band, by the way.
oberstoffensichtlich@feddit.org
on 03 Sep 2024 19:45
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I had very similar thoughts at my last Explosions in the Sky concert while tripping on acid and mushrooms.
oberstoffensichtlich@feddit.org
on 03 Sep 2024 20:48
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Taking some shrooms after the acid peaks is great to extend the trip.
Caesium@lemmy.world
on 03 Sep 2024 21:31
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yess, I’ve seen them live twice and I still hope they’ll tour again
specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 2024 03:23
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I’ve got tix to see them in Seattle on Sept 30!
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Sep 2024 23:00
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Absolutely. I saw them back in the day. A+ performance.
specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 2024 03:23
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I’ve got tix at the end of the month!
EnderMB@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 12:31
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Amazing band, and lovely people too. I saw them in Bristol about 5-6 years ago, and met them after their show. I told them that I owe them my Computer Science degree since they’re basically my study playlist, and apparently they get that from fans often.
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 12:46
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First band I ever saw live.
Still have the smarties they threw to the crowd after the last song.
dessimbelackis@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 18:49
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“And so people come to sorts of agreements about, uh, how much of a wiggle is a wiggle; that is to say a thing. One wiggle, you can always reduce any one wiggle into sub-wiggles. Or see it as a subordinate wiggle in a bigger wiggle. But there’s no real fixed rule about it”
fossilesque@mander.xyz
on 04 Sep 2024 18:58
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Does a wave wiggle or jiggle?
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 2024 12:47
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What is “sensing” or “growing” or “respiring” or “excreting” or “eating”?
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
on 04 Sep 2024 13:30
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I would define those terms, but you would just ask me to define the terms I used to define them, wouldn’t you? Eventually, language is known by other people without being defined in terms of language.
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 2024 16:36
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Not really, i left out the term reproduce because i think it has some reality. But others like sensing — does an atom changing the electron cloud due to an electric feild or nearby atom count as sensing because it senses the presence of nearby atoms or whatever?
Won’t growing constitute of some large mass body collecting more mass due to its gravitation?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
on 03 Sep 2024 21:22
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Actually I live in a skip but thanks for the pep talk.
fossilesque@mander.xyz
on 03 Sep 2024 23:12
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No u.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
on 03 Sep 2024 23:35
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I love the line “when an explosion explodes hard enough, dust wakes up and thinks about itself”
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 00:33
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I’d condense the whole post down to:
The universe is an ongoing explosion. Sometimes the exploded dust becomes haunted.
That’s us.
FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee
on 03 Sep 2024 23:33
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Mind that textbook we did in school?
I’m still tripping
niktemadur@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 00:08
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But it wasn’t really an explosion, it was more like a spontaneous, insane inflation that found itself suddenly huge and empty, only after it was through with that particular stage did it zap itself full of energy and matter everywhere all at once. Then it continued growing in volume and thinning out via regular ol’ relativistic expansion.
EDIT: looking a little bit closer, there’s the thing about zapping all over itself after Inflation, it was almost perfectly half-and-half matter/antimatter, which then proceeded to join and annihilate into pure energy, but for some reason probably related to the Weak Force, just a little bit more matter was created than antimatter.
And that’s what we are and see today, 1 part out of every 8 million-and-one.
For every 4,000,000 parts antimatter, there were 4,000,001 parts matter, only that 1 left over particle of matter, multiplied a bazillion times.
That’s just a whole other level of amazing than just saying “an explosion”.
troybot@midwest.social
on 04 Sep 2024 00:17
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I heard Bill Wurtz voice while I read this
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 2024 12:20
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Even crazier space dust!
theneverfox@pawb.social
on 04 Sep 2024 05:57
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An explosion is pure entropy. It’s high energy releasing to a low energy state in an uncontrolled manner
We climb down the energy slope very slowly to reverse entropy and create order
The universe is like us - temporary order emerges as it slides towards entropy
myrrh@ttrpg.network
on 04 Sep 2024 12:01
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…just ripples in the carbon cycle, momentary standing waves until we lose coherence…
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
on 04 Sep 2024 12:06
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Perhaps another way to think of it is that we’re a patch of localised order in an overall disordered universe
On the overall scale of the universe? No, not even remotely close. On the local scale of the Earth, generally yes.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 Sep 2024 15:34
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Well, as much as possible anyway. When considering mass alone, life is quite efficient.
According to Wolfram Alpha:
The sun produces 3.8 * 10^28^ watts.
A single human produces 104 watts (calculated through the average caloric intake assuming that intake ≈ energy consumption) through heat radiation.
Therefore:
1 kg of human converts 1.5 watt into heat.
1 kg of the sun converts 0.0002 watt into (heat) radiation.
And while I have nearly no understanding how entropy is calculated, from those values alone it seems like humans produce more entropy per kg than the sun. I’m pretty sure entropy is somewhat related to energy production though.
Yes, if you consider just a human-mass equivalent portion of the Sun then it’s not doing much, but that’s not really a useful comparison. We’re talking about total net entropy here, not entropy per unit mass.
But yes, if it makes you feel any better, I’ll concede that if you had octillions of people our total metabolic energy output would, in fact, be significantly higher than that of the Sun.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 17:05
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This raises the question of how many kg of human mass is required to start fusion and create a human star? How does fusion even work if you have a mix of different elements? Would the human star pulse in a cycle of collapsing until hydrogen fusion starts, exploding out until it stops and then collapsing again? Or would any fusion ignite enough to stop it from collapsing into a neutron star or black hole?
And if I’ve asked this question, does it mean xkcd has already attempted an answer? Or at least a comic that mentions it?
birdbrain5381@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 14:09
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No that’s not exactly right. It’s not that everything is only mind. Our subjective experience is only mind, you don’t actually see experience as it is but instead your experience of life is only mind in the sense it gets filtered by your sensory apparatus and hence it isn’t real as you don’t really sense reality as you are capable of. Doesn’t mean reality doesn’t exist if you’re not looking
General_Effort@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 2024 21:43
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I hate that this is popular. This is a creationist level understanding of the big bang.
You ever use a spray can for a while and the can gets cold? It’s more like that.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
on 04 Sep 2024 22:37
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You wanna get together later and rub our dust together?
Sounds dirty. Will there be cheese?
What, are you crazy? Of course there will be cheese.
I can’t believe you would even ask me that
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Delicious spacedust.
It was exploded, then turned onto something green eventually, then something haunted consumed and excreted it, then something WAY MORE HAUNTED did a bunch of weird shit to it like letting little things fart in it.
Such delicious spacedust.
Excellent band, by the way.
I had very similar thoughts at my last Explosions in the Sky concert while tripping on acid and mushrooms.
That sounds awesome.
Taking some shrooms after the acid peaks is great to extend the trip.
yess, I’ve seen them live twice and I still hope they’ll tour again
I’ve got tix to see them in Seattle on Sept 30!
Absolutely. I saw them back in the day. A+ performance.
I’ve got tix at the end of the month!
Amazing band, and lovely people too. I saw them in Bristol about 5-6 years ago, and met them after their show. I told them that I owe them my Computer Science degree since they’re basically my study playlist, and apparently they get that from fans often.
First band I ever saw live.
Still have the smarties they threw to the crowd after the last song.
Toronto… 07ish
What a great first concert, good for you!
Just recently mentioned the conscious universe theory in conversation with a friend.
synchroni-city
Meditate
Is there a word for this type of hypersimplification to evoke wonder? If not, can we coin one?
Awendering
Saganumenousness.
My suggestion: Simplificatio Adstupefaciendi - A simplification with the purpose to astonish.
On top of sounding cool it is already astonishing to remember and to be able to spell it!
Too much like a Harry Potter spell tho
A few simple words that just turned my reality upside down? I’m sure Germans have one
Ein aha-erlebnis
Verwunderung?
Realitätsverschiebung?
Vorshtein?
Numberwang
This is definitely Numberwang!
abgefickt?
Releasing the kraken
2Deep4Me
Life is anything that moves, reproduces, senses, grows, respires, excretes and eats.
Consciousness is more mysterious and less well defined.
Yes, but how do living things come into existence? What makes a cell alive?
It’s not about defining what a living being is.
Jiggling. It’s about wiggling and jiggling.
“Jiggle physics is the real science. Everything else is stamp collecting.” - Einstein maybe
“What is a jiggleo?
A dead body
Well, he ain’t really dead, but he ain’t like
Anybody that you’ve ever met before
He’ll eat monopoly and shit out connect four”
-ICP
“And so people come to sorts of agreements about, uh, how much of a wiggle is a wiggle; that is to say a thing. One wiggle, you can always reduce any one wiggle into sub-wiggles. Or see it as a subordinate wiggle in a bigger wiggle. But there’s no real fixed rule about it”
Does a wave wiggle or jiggle?
What is “sensing” or “growing” or “respiring” or “excreting” or “eating”?
I would define those terms, but you would just ask me to define the terms I used to define them, wouldn’t you? Eventually, language is known by other people without being defined in terms of language.
Not really, i left out the term reproduce because i think it has some reality. But others like sensing — does an atom changing the electron cloud due to an electric feild or nearby atom count as sensing because it senses the presence of nearby atoms or whatever?
Won’t growing constitute of some large mass body collecting more mass due to its gravitation?
Actually I live in a skip but thanks for the pep talk.
Holy shit. That was pretty profound.
No u.
I love the line “when an explosion explodes hard enough, dust wakes up and thinks about itself”
I’d condense the whole post down to:
The universe is an ongoing explosion. Sometimes the exploded dust becomes haunted.
That’s us.
Mind that textbook we did in school?
I’m still tripping
But it wasn’t really an explosion, it was more like a spontaneous, insane inflation that found itself suddenly huge and empty, only after it was through with that particular stage did it zap itself full of energy and matter everywhere all at once. Then it continued growing in volume and thinning out via regular ol’ relativistic expansion.
EDIT: looking a little bit closer, there’s the thing about zapping all over itself after Inflation, it was almost perfectly half-and-half matter/antimatter, which then proceeded to join and annihilate into pure energy, but for some reason probably related to the Weak Force, just a little bit more matter was created than antimatter.
And that’s what we are and see today, 1 part out of every 8 million-and-one. For every 4,000,000 parts antimatter, there were 4,000,001 parts matter, only that 1 left over particle of matter, multiplied a bazillion times.
That’s just a whole other level of amazing than just saying “an explosion”.
I heard Bill Wurtz voice while I read this
Even crazier space dust!
An explosion is pure entropy. It’s high energy releasing to a low energy state in an uncontrolled manner
We climb down the energy slope very slowly to reverse entropy and create order
The universe is like us - temporary order emerges as it slides towards entropy
…just ripples in the carbon cycle, momentary standing waves until we lose coherence…
Perhaps another way to think of it is that we’re a patch of localised order in an overall disordered universe
Or perhaps more eloquently:
we’re the standing part of a harmonic fart
I don’t understand this, but it sounds cool.
We’re the fixed red dot in the superposition of the green and blue waves interfering with one other
But are we actually creating order? To maintain life’s order, we are creating much more disorder somewhere else.
Life is but an entropy maximization machine.
On the overall scale of the universe? No, not even remotely close. On the local scale of the Earth, generally yes.
Well, as much as possible anyway. When considering mass alone, life is quite efficient.
According to Wolfram Alpha:
The sun produces 3.8 * 10^28^ watts.
A single human produces 104 watts (calculated through the average caloric intake assuming that intake ≈ energy consumption) through heat radiation.
Therefore:
1 kg of human converts 1.5 watt into heat.
1 kg of the sun converts 0.0002 watt into (heat) radiation.
And while I have nearly no understanding how entropy is calculated, from those values alone it seems like humans produce more entropy per kg than the sun. I’m pretty sure entropy is somewhat related to energy production though.
Yes, if you consider just a human-mass equivalent portion of the Sun then it’s not doing much, but that’s not really a useful comparison. We’re talking about total net entropy here, not entropy per unit mass.
But yes, if it makes you feel any better, I’ll concede that if you had octillions of people our total metabolic energy output would, in fact, be significantly higher than that of the Sun.
This raises the question of how many kg of human mass is required to start fusion and create a human star? How does fusion even work if you have a mix of different elements? Would the human star pulse in a cycle of collapsing until hydrogen fusion starts, exploding out until it stops and then collapsing again? Or would any fusion ignite enough to stop it from collapsing into a neutron star or black hole?
And if I’ve asked this question, does it mean xkcd has already attempted an answer? Or at least a comic that mentions it?
But how do you reverse entropy when the last star dies out?
INSUFFICIENT DATA
If only this was a response AI could give. I think it would solve a lot of the problems
xkcd.com/1448/
(apparent deadlink BTW). In answer to the question: slow and steady Hawking radiation from all the black holes, perhaps?
A single human may look organized, but collectively we are chaos
Reminds me of this Pete Holmes bit.
Carl Sagan.
This Carl guy sounds pretty smart. Maybe he should study physics or something.
Maybe he should try his hand at teaching too, it seems like he’s got a unique skill for simplifying complicated concepts.
If he had a TV show, I bet it could reach many people and we might all learn from him.
The paragraphing has gone all the way through readable back to “I’m not reading this”.
The buddha explained this 2500 years ago
.
According to the Lotus Sutra the Earth is also a sentient being.
The Chan School of Buddhism says that all phenomena are mind. There is nothing that is not mind. We, as humans, are a mind in a mind.
No that’s not exactly right. It’s not that everything is only mind. Our subjective experience is only mind, you don’t actually see experience as it is but instead your experience of life is only mind in the sense it gets filtered by your sensory apparatus and hence it isn’t real as you don’t really sense reality as you are capable of. Doesn’t mean reality doesn’t exist if you’re not looking
I hate that this is popular. This is a creationist level understanding of the big bang.
You ever use a spray can for a while and the can gets cold? It’s more like that.
and then downvotes it