sharks are older than polaris
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 21 Jul 18:12
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ch00f@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 18:29 next collapse

45-67Million Years according to Wikipedia.

Sharks are hundreds of millions.

Also somewhat relevant: xkcd.com/1342/

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jul 18:37 next collapse

Fuckin’ Sirius. So close and yet so far.

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 09:28 collapse

Not directly relevant, but I think Keanu Reaves named his band “Dog Star” because he was “Sirius” about his music career.

ksigley@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 00:41 collapse

There really is an xkcd for everything.

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 18:43 next collapse

Also from Wikipedia:

Although appearing to the naked eye as a single point of light, Polaris is a triple star system, composed of the primary, a yellow supergiant designated Polaris Aa, in orbit with a smaller companion, Polaris Ab; the pair is in a wider orbit with Polaris B. The outer pair AB were discovered in August 1779 by William Herschel, where the ‘A’ refers to what is now known to be the Aa/Ab pair.

I learned something new today. And if I’m reading the details section correctly, while the outer pair of stars are actually older than sharks, it’s the bright star that you can actually see that’s younger than sharks.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 18:53 collapse

And if I’m reading the details section correctly, while the outer pair of stars are actually older than sharks, it’s the bright star that you can actually see that’s younger than sharks.

This makes even less sense, how is the heavier thing in the middle younger than the things that orbit it?

dwindling7373@feddit.it on 21 Jul 19:02 next collapse

I may be wrong but a mass of inhert hydrogen has the same mass of a radiating one, so they could have been orbiting a mass of gas a long time before the “newer” one ignited.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:08 collapse
Aeao@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:08 next collapse

I can explain that but I have to use the only thing available to illustrate.

So imagine my left testicle here formed before this penis in the middle… And yes it is technically a penis despite the small size, and this testicle-

ryedaft@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jul 20:05 collapse

The bigger the star, the brighter it burns

Also it dies sooner. So any given big star is more likely to be young

ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jul 18:46 next collapse

North star? More like noob star.

Aeao@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:03 next collapse

I got to ask all the Internet tho… Which is better?!

The concept of north?

Or sharks?

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:41 next collapse

Sharks are cooler.

Klear@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 21:07 collapse

North is very cold tho.

Saleh@feddit.org on 22 Jul 05:53 collapse

Dont need the north star for the concept of north.

Aeao@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 09:22 collapse

And you don’t need alligators to make a swamp. Not relevant to the question I asked.

burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:11 next collapse

thinking about things too much makes me feel ill, i try not to do it very often

Aeao@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:28 collapse

Explain what you mean in 6 paragraphs please

owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca on 21 Jul 19:13 next collapse

Sharks are also older than trees, flowers, Saturn’s rings, and the Atlantic ocean.

owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca on 21 Jul 19:14 next collapse

And don’t even get me started on horseshoe crabs. Older than plants, those ones.

Aeao@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:43 next collapse

Back in my day you used to be able to buy twelve horseshoe crabs for a nickel… Of course that was before the war… Back then id swear at least two and a half teenth of my crew where horse shew crab but who you going to tell ? Tattling wouldn’t be invented for another 2 score years up in Kentucky you had to wait another 6!

But it’s was easier and I miss those days. If you could dodge the knowledge toads you were already 12 up on these Irish but we can’t say that anymore can we? No sir…now we got to give everything to the freckled folk and act like that’s the way it’s meant to be but it’s not. It wasn’t a thing until the battle of leaky hill… But we lost and I had to accept that to get tomatoes down at the Paul’s service at a decent price. Don’t even get me started about the tomatoes. You never damn believe it.

Sorry I’m going to be a grandfather soon so I’m practicing

bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Jul 01:55 collapse

Congratulations! Seems like you’re well on course to getting your grandfathers license, but if I may offer some minor critique, you didn’t comment on how much I’ve grown and I believe taffy should be involved somewhere along the line. Other than that, excellent grandfathering!

Aeao@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 05:03 collapse

I’d talk about taffy if we’re lucky enough to have it. We chewed rubber across the street from the taffy store hoping to catch a wiff of the taffy. If the wind was right you’d almost smell it over the horse manure we had to carry back and forth.

But you’ve said you’ve grown have you? Let me put my glasses on and take a look at ya. How old you get up to now? 17? When I was your age I was 24 and had to hide from the draft but I know you do the best you can and I don’t hold it against you. Life is softer now a days, you grew up with all your toes I see. We used to have to write our names on our toes in case they got stolen police weren’t now damn good barely got half of them back . … you’re a good boy tho lad. Strapping. Like your Father before he got sloppy and stumbled into all that doctor brain pull crap. Pills making people happy now. If I wanted haUppy I had to go to war and get an arm blown off and you don’t see me complaining.

Run along now son and tell your mother I need another rooted beer and make it a good one this time. Damn lazy kids. My father never ask twice a day in his life. He asked once then he kill ya and replace ya with a kid that minded better and they call that abuse now. That’s why nothing ever gets done anymore with the construction down the road. Six weeks for pavement and they call it progress. Their lucky. They don’t even… They don’t … damn kids.and their play tubes… Snoring … We stood in line for our kidneys… Snoring. We drank the lead because it was cleaner than the water snoring ya think you have blue… We had real blue back then not this pansy ass… Snoring and they think they’ll send it mars. Good luck with that I’d say if they were worth a damn to listen… HEY DONT CHANGE THE CHANNEL IM STILL WATCHING THAT! damn remotes and they wonder why we have diabetes… Snoring

Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone on 21 Jul 21:36 next collapse

But not horse shoes

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 21:52 next collapse

Well obviously. Horses clearly evolved the shape of their feet by repeatedly attempting to use horseshoe crabs as shoes.

owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca on 21 Jul 22:06 next collapse

No, crabhorse shoes didn’t come until at least 5 years later.

No idea when shoecrab horses came about, though.

A7thStone@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 00:27 collapse

But what about hand shoes and horse grenades?

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 09:30 next collapse

Those fuckers have like nine different types of eyes. Even that tail is one big photoreceptor! Primitive, my ass - you try surviving crawling around in the mud for 400 million fucking years.

7toed@midwest.social on 22 Jul 19:13 collapse

We call their evolution lazy just cause we’re jealous they finished their homework when it was assigned, and we waited until the day it was due. I was evolved to be a primate but now I have back issues because we’re bipedal. Smfh

gabbath@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 16:19 collapse

We’re taking the scenic route, but eventually we will all be crab. So it is written.

jimjam5@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 10:03 next collapse

From Wikipedia:

Horseshoe crabs have been described as “living fossils”, having changed little since they first appeared in the Triassic.

panda_abyss@lemmy.ca on 22 Jul 12:11 collapse

In defence of plants, it takes a highly evolved form of life to be able to do nothing all day and get away with it.

Fleur_@aussie.zone on 22 Jul 20:29 collapse

Knew I specced into the wrong class. Take me back to the character creation screen!!!

SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Jul 22:15 collapse

Plant bard would be the best, assuming you can avoid predation.

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:41 next collapse

I would cut the shapes of prehistoric sharks in cardboard in my childhood. Have a pouch of those somewhere.

They were really beautiful.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Jul 12:28 collapse

Sharks are older than trees?!?

commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Jul 19:16 next collapse

I love it. it feels like Polaris will be there long after this rock is barren and cold, and we can continue to navigate by it in the gay space communism

[deleted] on 21 Jul 19:45 next collapse

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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Jul 19:45 next collapse

isn’t there something about brighter stars burning up more quickly?

and polaris is white(?) so it burns maybe at a similar speed than the sun, so it may burn out sooner or later than the sun? approximately speaking

commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Jul 19:54 collapse

why would you want to dash my hopes like that?

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Jul 20:31 collapse

you can just explore other star systems i guess? isn’t that something?

dwindling7373@feddit.it on 22 Jul 07:42 next collapse

Apparently the star is going to fizzle out soon, but beside that, if you are not on earth it becomes irrelevant for navigation.

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Jul 18:57 collapse

fwiw it’ll at least stop being the north star in some thousand years (might be longer), which is arguably even more fucked to think about

like, people in the past had a different north star, what the fuck

doomsel@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 19:32 next collapse

If I understand correctly, it is 2billion years old, but 50million years ago it merged with another star, making it more massive and thereby more bright an visible from earth. Fun fact: Due to it beeing a yellow supergiant it will turn red in a couple of thousand years and then die quiet soon.

Source: scientificamerican.com/…/how-old-is-the-north-sta…

Saleh@feddit.org on 22 Jul 05:52 collapse

“soon” and “young” are always interesting terms in Geology and Astronomy.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jul 22:34 collapse

Tens of millions of years old? Practically brand new!

DarkCloud@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 20:57 next collapse

Youngest known proto-star is 1300 years old…

So most species are older than HOPS-315.

marcos@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 22:21 next collapse

A medieval star!

limer@lemmy.ml on 21 Jul 23:37 collapse

Rumors to this day state it pulses to a Gregorian chant

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 22 Jul 10:16 collapse

But Polaris is not proto, it’s critical.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 21 Jul 21:24 next collapse

Stars have only existed for about fifty years. Duh.

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 21:44 next collapse

I mean there has to be a few somewhere made this year. Reminds me tangentially of something I was reading during a statistics class, that due to many possibilities and infinite numbers I should be able to open my dryer and find all clothing folded.

ignotum@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 22:03 next collapse

How can the stars have existed for fifty years when the universe itself is only slightly under a week old?

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 21 Jul 23:14 collapse

I could explain, but there’s a lot of string theory involved and I only have limited time.

ignotum@lemmy.world on 22 Jul 07:58 collapse

That shouldn’t be a problem i’m well versed in string theory, i know like three different knots

I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org on 22 Jul 21:53 collapse

Someone had to turn the light switch on

[deleted] on 21 Jul 22:04 next collapse

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KTJ_microbes@mander.xyz on 22 Jul 12:12 next collapse

Common, no shark is that old, not to mention all of them.

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 22 Jul 19:22 next collapse

all these new stars nowadays, it’s hard for old me to keep track lol

IWW4@lemmy.zip on 23 Jul 16:30 collapse

… Why is this the worst fact he knows?