rockerface@lemmy.cafe
on 04 Sep 01:03
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At least psychology isnât economics
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 02:35
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Reminds me of a joke that economics is for those who couldnât cut it in maths and physics. Austrian Economics for those who couldnât handle evidence and statistics in economics.
mctoasterson@reddthat.com
on 04 Sep 01:44
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Worse - Sociology
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 04:20
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Psychology is a fun science, but we get a lot of students who donât get that they signed up to study a science rather than for getting a degree in holding hands and going âthere, thereâ.
I love science. Especially when itâs followed by the word âfiction.â đ
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
on 04 Sep 04:07
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I love how âanimalsâ and âengineeringâ are presented as equivalent in this meme, like âyeah I know these arenât real sciences or anything but I think theyâre cute!â
Gustephan@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 04:44
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I have literally designed and implemented aircraft parts based on inspiration I got listening to somebody infodump about an animal they were studying. Learn the things other people care about. It will make you better at what you care about and probably a better person in the process
Loads of new technologies are discovered because of people mixing disciplines that hadnât been put together before. A new perspective on a problem can make a massive difference!
I think the most reliable way to advance a scientific field is to find a technique used in a different field and apply it to yours. Even more reliable if you use techniques from theoretical math.
If somebodyâs just following dogma and thinking within a box, theyâre not doing science.
I didnât even interpret the meme as suggesting that one group of subjects is better than another, and I was disappointed to see so many commenters here thinking that their narrow or broad branch of study is better or more of a true science than other valid fields.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 10:35
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Except that the meme is very specifically used to highlight a distinct qualitative difference between the two âinterpretationsâ of a term which leads to friction or miscommunication between the characters. This meme is doing precisely what you claim it is not.
I think youâre reading things that neither me nor the above image have said.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 10:52
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Given that the very definition of something that makes a meme is that it allows transmission of a specific idea in an encapsulated manner, there are inherent implications of using a meme, whether you explicitly say them or not. This meme is implicitly about a miscommunication between two interpretations of the same term:
I Love Video Games / Me Too is a parody meme format based on an exploitable image macro in which a woman misinterprets a man saying âI love video gamesâ as him expressing love for Lana Del Rayâs song of that name.
This meme, since its earliest usage, has been used as a statement of purity, which you can clearly see if you look into the history of it. That connotation is preserved in the use of this meme, whether you yourself are ignorant of its origins, or simply pretending that it isnât some sort of purity statement. I donât disagree with your sentiment, but you are definitively wrong about the implications of the original post.
I see no text on the page you linked that references any connotation of superiority or purity. The first usage of the meme does not suggest either a superiority or a purity, as you claim; however, an audience might project their preferences and gatekeeping onto that which is without bias. In the vast majority of the examples in the link, there is simply a contextual miscommunication between two valid interpretations of a term; only a few examples do suggest superiority or purity. Deferring to imgflip, many of the user-made memes do not have that connotation, while some do. Based on these data, I do not see a subtext of connotation or purity to be necessarily implied in use of that template. The comedy can be derived from something as simple as a word having two meanings.
Once again, you have also claimed that I said something which I had not (prior to this comment).
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 11:43
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Yeah, and there was no explicit text that said âseparate, but equalâ was about racial purity and whites being the best race. But here, âseparate, but equal sciencesâ is totally normal, right?
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 11:45
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The thing is, the specific meaning transmitted in a meme can shift slightly depending on how and where it is used. Iâve seen this format used in one of two contexts to date:
Purity statement, whereby one side is clearly meant to be the âcorrectâ position. Usually assigned to the male figure, but with some variants where that is switched.
Illustration of differences between two groups, where the idea of âcorrectnessâ of one side over the other is either absent or secondary to just illustrating that difference.
Then thereâs the slippage between these two, which can be fun to tease out. IMO this meme is an example of the second usage, with some possible slippage. Both sides claim to love science, both sides have things that are sciences and things that are science related but adjacent. Each is assigned topics for which thereâs a stereotype about menâs/womenâs level of participation. I look at it and think âHere are two people who both truly do love science, but different domains, and each is still learning which is why some elements are imprecise/not specific sciencesâ). Basically, 1st year BSc man and woman meet at the record store.
Now, depending on authorship and original context, a declaration of purity may be intended (Iâve seen stuff like this with that intent from insecure engineering students before, usually men), but I feel it loses some of that when deployed in a generic science memes community (as opposed to something like âSpicy Memes for Bridge Building Boysâ or whatever).
Iâd be curious if this was OC, or if not where it was taken from.
This is a shit take. The meme is showing two different stereotypes of college freshman. There is not a qualitative difference between the âhardâ sciences and the others; the biologists climatologists and psychologists Iâve known all adhere to the same scientific method and mathematical rigor I learned getting my handful of grad and postgrad degrees in physics math and compsci. The only real difference Iâve seen is that âsoftâ sciences tend to work on problems with more stochastic moving parts, making them harder to understand on average. Theyâre not easier, youâre just ignorant of the complexity and too arrogant to consider the expertise and accomplishments of others.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 11:04
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I agree that there is not a difference, but this meme is claiming that there is. That is what I am complaining about. I agree with literally everything you have said. The meme is trying to paint a qualitative difference, because that is literally the implicit context of this meme template. I am disapproving of that implication
Aquatic biology - have an axolotl. More science can be involved than with most pets, nitrogen cycle and various experiments I did to try and remove nitrates.
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As long as she doesnât say psychology
At least psychology isnât economics
Reminds me of a joke that economics is for those who couldnât cut it in maths and physics. Austrian Economics for those who couldnât handle evidence and statistics in economics.
Worse - Sociology
Why is sociology worse
Low standards for evidence. Very difficult to test.
Iâd take that (or sociology or economics,) over whatever batshit-crazy pseudoscience RFKjr is spouting.
Psychology is a fun science, but we get a lot of students who donât get that they signed up to study a science rather than for getting a degree in holding hands and going âthere, thereâ.
Computing
Wow, âTell me you never took more than high school level chemistry without telling me you never took more than high school level chemistryâ.
E: also, the fuck is âspaceâ?
The one place that hasnât been corrupted by capitalism.
Except it has?
Iâm sorry youâve missed this before, please enjoy it in all its glory: Tim Curry is escaping to the one place that hasnât been corrupted by capitalism.
Wait which Red Alert was this?
3, as far as I know, but Iâve only had contract with it through internet memes, so could be wrong.
Space is the final frontier science.
Compressed time.
Me with my Accounting degree stuck in the middle with them
Thereâs only three sciences in that list.
Physics, chemistry and biology ?
I think theyâll find thereâs only one
I guess so: relevant XKCD
Itâs just math and turtles all the way down
Canât forget the elephants down there propping everything up
they missed philosophy all the way to the right, but yeah
Though im told that Philosophyâs just math, sans rigor, sense and practicality.
probably by a mathematician
Yep
I love science. Especially when itâs followed by the word âfiction.â đ
I love how âanimalsâ and âengineeringâ are presented as equivalent in this meme, like âyeah I know these arenât real sciences or anything but I think theyâre cute!â
I donât think your misunderstanding and/or crusty attitude qualifies as a failure on their part.
The creator was clearly a physicist.
I have literally designed and implemented aircraft parts based on inspiration I got listening to somebody infodump about an animal they were studying. Learn the things other people care about. It will make you better at what you care about and probably a better person in the process
Loads of new technologies are discovered because of people mixing disciplines that hadnât been put together before. A new perspective on a problem can make a massive difference!
I think the most reliable way to advance a scientific field is to find a technique used in a different field and apply it to yours. Even more reliable if you use techniques from theoretical math.
If somebodyâs just following dogma and thinking within a box, theyâre not doing science.
I didnât even interpret the meme as suggesting that one group of subjects is better than another, and I was disappointed to see so many commenters here thinking that their narrow or broad branch of study is better or more of a true science than other valid fields.
Except that the meme is very specifically used to highlight a distinct qualitative difference between the two âinterpretationsâ of a term which leads to friction or miscommunication between the characters. This meme is doing precisely what you claim it is not.
I think youâre reading things that neither me nor the above image have said.
Given that the very definition of something that makes a meme is that it allows transmission of a specific idea in an encapsulated manner, there are inherent implications of using a meme, whether you explicitly say them or not. This meme is implicitly about a miscommunication between two interpretations of the same term:
This meme, since its earliest usage, has been used as a statement of purity, which you can clearly see if you look into the history of it. That connotation is preserved in the use of this meme, whether you yourself are ignorant of its origins, or simply pretending that it isnât some sort of purity statement. I donât disagree with your sentiment, but you are definitively wrong about the implications of the original post.
I see no text on the page you linked that references any connotation of superiority or purity. The first usage of the meme does not suggest either a superiority or a purity, as you claim; however, an audience might project their preferences and gatekeeping onto that which is without bias. In the vast majority of the examples in the link, there is simply a contextual miscommunication between two valid interpretations of a term; only a few examples do suggest superiority or purity. Deferring to imgflip, many of the user-made memes do not have that connotation, while some do. Based on these data, I do not see a subtext of connotation or purity to be necessarily implied in use of that template. The comedy can be derived from something as simple as a word having two meanings.
Once again, you have also claimed that I said something which I had not (prior to this comment).
Edit: adding this image
<img alt="" src="https://media.piefed.world/posts/T3/4M/T34MfpOihMAgeYE.jpeg">
Yeah, and there was no explicit text that said âseparate, but equalâ was about racial purity and whites being the best race. But here, âseparate, but equal sciencesâ is totally normal, right?
What a tasteless and illogical thing to say
The thing is, the specific meaning transmitted in a meme can shift slightly depending on how and where it is used. Iâve seen this format used in one of two contexts to date:
Purity statement, whereby one side is clearly meant to be the âcorrectâ position. Usually assigned to the male figure, but with some variants where that is switched.
Illustration of differences between two groups, where the idea of âcorrectnessâ of one side over the other is either absent or secondary to just illustrating that difference.
Then thereâs the slippage between these two, which can be fun to tease out. IMO this meme is an example of the second usage, with some possible slippage. Both sides claim to love science, both sides have things that are sciences and things that are science related but adjacent. Each is assigned topics for which thereâs a stereotype about menâs/womenâs level of participation. I look at it and think âHere are two people who both truly do love science, but different domains, and each is still learning which is why some elements are imprecise/not specific sciencesâ). Basically, 1st year BSc man and woman meet at the record store.
Now, depending on authorship and original context, a declaration of purity may be intended (Iâve seen stuff like this with that intent from insecure engineering students before, usually men), but I feel it loses some of that when deployed in a generic science memes community (as opposed to something like âSpicy Memes for Bridge Building Boysâ or whatever).
Iâd be curious if this was OC, or if not where it was taken from.
#memesaresrsbusiness
This is a shit take. The meme is showing two different stereotypes of college freshman. There is not a qualitative difference between the âhardâ sciences and the others; the biologists climatologists and psychologists Iâve known all adhere to the same scientific method and mathematical rigor I learned getting my handful of grad and postgrad degrees in physics math and compsci. The only real difference Iâve seen is that âsoftâ sciences tend to work on problems with more stochastic moving parts, making them harder to understand on average. Theyâre not easier, youâre just ignorant of the complexity and too arrogant to consider the expertise and accomplishments of others.
I agree that there is not a difference, but this meme is claiming that there is. That is what I am complaining about. I agree with literally everything you have said. The meme is trying to paint a qualitative difference, because that is literally the implicit context of this meme template. I am disapproving of that implication
Night science rules!
Good for them.
Sure, Iâd call it probably zoology, but whatever, âanimalsâ counts.
Space isnât a science either, itâs the subject matter for astronomy and astrophysics.
Aquatic biology - have an axolotl. More science can be involved than with most pets, nitrogen cycle and various experiments I did to try and remove nitrates.
Most important nowadays is Neuro-science, well, maybe it also has something to do with animals.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7d870bdb-6d30-408d-8906-fc859b01d273.png">
That guy is so purple he looks like he chewed willy wonkaâs gum
Looks like thereâs a directional white-light source that his sign is blocking, and more diffuse red and blue lighting illuminating the shadow
Thereâs a portion of his face outside the shadow, and it seems normally colored
Looks like a blueberry that drank too much silver.
I donât get it, what is the distinction between the left and the right?
I see them as perfectly compatible.