Xenon
from threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works to science_memes@mander.xyz on 18 Feb 02:45
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Draegur@lemm.ee on 18 Feb 04:00 next collapse

youtube.com/@explosionsandfire if he releases it soon and you want to watch it instead of just seeing the post where he demos the title card

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 05:22 next collapse

Either way, as long as I get to drink my lightly processed urine through a special straw in my jumpsuit, dammit I’m in.

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 07:15 collapse

“Lisan al Gaib!”

Deconceptualist@lemm.ee on 18 Feb 05:32 next collapse

Xenon is a drug?

Drugs.com calls it “physiologically inert” with some anaesthetic effects at high doses. Most of the coverage is about Xe-133 radiopharmacology and not what most people would think of as a “drug”. Is there more to the story?

www.drugs.com/pro/xenon-xe-133-gas.html

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 07:19 next collapse

At the worst, you can use it like people use nitrogen. To get a very brief high from lack of oxygen (and then possibly die)

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 07:19 next collapse

Is there more to the story?

Not that I’m aware of. I’m assuming Tom was referring to its anaesthetic effects, which I don’t think have been widely studied.

Cort@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 07:38 next collapse

iirc it’s a dissociative.

I remember Hamilton’s pharmacopeia doing an episode on it. Apparently it is/was popular in Russia.

Here’s a video of Hamilton doing some: youtu.be/dj25HO48Gxw

anomnom@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 14:43 collapse

Is it me or is he just slightly asphyxiated after the first breath?

We messed with sulfur hexaflouride a while back, and it’s kinda difficult to exhale it all without putting your head between your knees and breathing hard.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 12:15 next collapse

oh, so it’s a “medicine drug”…

Shou@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 13:05 next collapse

It works by dispersing oxygen from the blood. The lack of oxygen gives you a high. Which is can turn deadly if you don’t unhook when passing out.

Deconceptualist@lemm.ee on 18 Feb 13:10 collapse

Isn’t that the same as Nitrogen, like Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works said? That doesn’t sound like there’s any unique mechanism to Xenon.

Shou@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 20:25 collapse

Correct

FooBarrington@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 20:22 next collapse

Yeah. If you spray it on a hammer and hit someone’s head with it, it knocks them right out.

drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Feb 20:53 collapse

Don’t listen to the people who say it works by displacing oxygen. It would never be used as a general anesthetic if that was the mechanism of action.

Xenon has been used as a general anesthetic, but it is more expensive than conventional anesthetics.

Xenon is a high-affinity glycine-site NMDA receptor antagonist.[155] However, xenon is different from certain other NMDA receptor antagonists in that it is not neurotoxic and it inhibits the neurotoxicity of ketamine and nitrous oxide (N2O), while actually producing neuroprotective effects.[156][157] Unlike ketamine and nitrous oxide, xenon does not stimulate a dopamine efflux in the nucleus accumbens.[158]

Xenon has a minimum alveolar concentration (MAC) of 72% at age 40, making it 44% more potent than N2O as an anesthetic.[164] Thus, it can be used with oxygen in concentrations that have a lower risk of hypoxia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon

Deconceptualist@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 00:35 collapse

I didn’t think to check Wikipedia for pharmacology info haha. Thanks.

momocchi@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 08:14 next collapse

Man explosion&fire/extractions&ire are some of the best channels on Youtube, love that dude

sploosh@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 13:51 next collapse

I’m reading all these comments in his voice.

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 19:51 collapse

So am I, mate!

frigidaphelion@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 20:37 collapse

G’DAY AND WELCOME TO EXPLOSIONS AND FIIIIIRE!!! I love nothing in the world more than ex&f

ICastFist@programming.dev on 18 Feb 14:16 next collapse

Xenon are an advanced robotic faction in the X universe, so Xenon for space travel checks out

sheepishly@fedia.io on 18 Feb 18:05 next collapse

Love me some Explosions and Fire

mlg@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 18:21 collapse

Is xenon actually that rare? I thought it’s always used whenever something needs an ultra stable environment like enclosed data centers and sealed storage/vaults.

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 18:39 collapse

Yeah, compared to other noble gases, it’s pretty rare, and we don’t produce very much. If I recall correctly, the 900 kg loaded on the Psyche spacecraft last year represented about 10% of the world production.

Madison420@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 00:27 collapse

That doesn’t make it rare. It’s just a byproduct that is produced in large enough quantities for other uses without specifically cracking air to produce it rather then oxygen and nitrogen.