MSc Mansplaining
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 04 Sep 2024 12:59
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cybervseas@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 13:19 next collapse

Those women are waiting for him to finish so they can correct the numerous errors in his scientific reasoning.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 04 Sep 2024 13:23 next collapse

It’s true. He’s the student trying to work through his proposal.

spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2024 14:27 next collapse

Or beat him to within an inch of his life, as the case may be

OfCourseNot@fedia.io on 04 Sep 2024 14:40 collapse

I don't think so. You can tell by their billion miles stare they don't have much of a choice but to put up with his crap for now.

dohpaz42@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 13:33 next collapse

I’m more intrigued by what appears to be a ghost arm behind his right shoulder.

Plopp@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 14:09 next collapse

Fats his fabulous raccoon’s tail.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 15:10 collapse

Dude must drive a T-top R-top trans-am

ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml on 04 Sep 2024 14:29 next collapse

Looks like the back of someone’s head to me, but the picture is kind of blurry

Enkers@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2024 15:05 next collapse

It looks to me like the back of his chair. Ghost arm is much more entertaining, though.

Rolando@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 16:16 next collapse

a ghost arm behind his right shoulder.

The arm of the student who literally died of boredom.

rigatoni@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:30 collapse

It’s the hair of yet another lady sitting in the background.<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/433d2474-0505-4559-8405-b1c3f7751c68.jpeg">

dohpaz42@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:33 next collapse

Nice! Amazing what a few extra pixels can do.

chiliedogg@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 20:47 next collapse

Okay, the building name is the chef’s kiss.

MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 10:11 next collapse

I thought he had a huge ponytail

rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Sep 2024 11:03 collapse

oh i thought it was the armchair he was sitting on

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ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 13:59 next collapse

Every single one of them look like their eyes are about to roll right out of their heads.

fsxylo@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2024 14:17 next collapse

They look like college students who were told to act.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 04 Sep 2024 23:06 collapse

Thanks for the explanation 🙄

NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 00:03 collapse

You should really pay attention more, and you won’t miss little details like that.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2024 15:40 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/0df37904-0149-4e36-914e-d07a8cb5a5c0.jpeg">

lightnsfw@reddthat.com on 04 Sep 2024 18:57 collapse

Top left has some vulcan eyebrows going on.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:12 collapse

Looks to me like she’s done with his shit and about to use the nerve pinch to stop him.

Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 20:40 collapse

I mean, at most meetings I shift between holding back rolling my eyes, and forcing them open so I don’t fall asleep.

sirico@feddit.uk on 04 Sep 2024 14:04 next collapse

It’s actually 40k Lore studies

Bertuccio@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 18:34 next collapse

Do you like 40k lore?

No.

Coolsothisonetimetherewasanorkcaptain.

pressanykeynow@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 23:18 collapse

Their facial expressions are like they think Magnus did nothing wrong.

TheTechnician27@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 15:26 next collapse

I choose to believe the more wholesome version that this is their gay, autistic, and genuinely endearing friend who got started on his special interest without realizing that nobody else cared, and his friends otherwise like him enough that they’re trying to figure out how to move the conversation forward without hurting his feelings after they all lost interest minutes ago.

“So during Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, Spock is passing through decks in the Enterprise, and we see one called Deck 78. Now you see, this class of Enterprise only has 23 decks, and so unless we assume someone misnamed this deck, how did this one get here? Some fans have speculated that maybe maybe Q put it there as a practical joke to confuse the audience, but why would Q use the number 78 specifically? This could be a reference to the episode All Our Yesterdays in The Original Series which is production code 78. In this episode, Spock reverts to being emotional like his primitive ancestors after traveling back through time, and this could be hinting to the idea that he secretly feels emotions for his half-brother Sybok who’s the antagonist of the movie.”

stangel@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 15:54 next collapse

Go on…

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 04 Sep 2024 17:40 collapse

After successfully docking with his long-lost step brother, the Enterprise ventures off after Q, anonymously masquerading as 78 Christmas trees each one representing the different layers of love that Spock feels towards the 23 decks.

Hupf@feddit.org on 04 Sep 2024 20:11 collapse

78 could be a continuation of 47

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:03 next collapse

How is that more wholesome than “person speaking in a group”?

TheTechnician27@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:08 next collapse

The interpretation in the rest of this thread is that this man is being a sexist, condescending douchebag to his peers. I hope “overly enthusiastic about your favorite subjects” is better than that.

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:11 collapse

Fair enough. But it doesn’t look like either of those, it’s looks like a tutor or study group and they’re literally just having a conversation. I guess I’m not surprised some people on lemmy don’t know what a conversation among friends looks like.

stangel@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 18:12 next collapse

I dunno, the one in the top right looks like she’s seriously reconsidering her life choices…

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 00:35 collapse

Yeah i said “a tutor or study group”

flughoernchen@feddit.org on 05 Sep 2024 13:50 collapse

Do you even study something if you don’t reconsider your life choices at a regular basis?

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 05:31 collapse

Neither do you, it seems. Given this is an ad for a university, it’s pretty clear to me this is intended to represent some type of group project or study group.

Doesn’t imply they’re friends at all.

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 12:52 next collapse

I literally said “like a tutor or study group”

Learn to read.

slackassassin@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 2024 13:04 collapse

I dunno, I typically made friends with the people I worked on projects and studied with.

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Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 19:24 collapse

Why can’t there just not be people deciding he’s being condescending for being straight and tutoring some girls?

redisdead@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 17:44 collapse

Because if you don’t create division, how will the billionaires get even more rich?

ODuffer@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 15:46 next collapse

It’s this big…

1984@lemmy.today on 04 Sep 2024 15:50 next collapse

How about a masters in propaganda on social media?

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:49 collapse

That’s called Marketing.

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 19:05 collapse

The term “public relations” is literally propaganda to make propaganda look better. It was just called propaganda before WWII but then there was a propaganda campaign to increase local resistance to propaganda from the Nazis and then the Communists. And it worked, so they needed more propaganda to get the local propaganda to work again.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:16 collapse

I bet you listen to podcasts.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 06 Sep 2024 08:41 collapse

This was bait to get you to mention the podcasts you are listening to so I could either say “me too!” or find something new to listen to.

What you said about propaganda was reminiscent of Amy Westervelt’s research in “Rigged.”

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 17:04 next collapse

Literally just a person talking in a group to other people. How is this a science meme?

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 04 Sep 2024 17:07 next collapse

When you work at a university the marketing department is always a meme.

ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net on 04 Sep 2024 22:59 next collapse

When I was in college, the science department was a group of people at a table going, “Hey nerd! I bet you like computers, don’t you?”

And I did and I walked over.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 04 Sep 2024 23:04 collapse

It’s our word now

boonhet@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 05:28 collapse

Us nerds might not run the world, but we run the Internet which all the non-nerds depend on. Checkmate, atheists everyone

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:14 collapse

Fuuuuck, they cover the walls of our science buildings with those now. It’s like, how much are you spending on this shit, but you can’t fix the fucking HVAC in the building?

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 00:08 next collapse

It’s mainly funny, because all the women look bored out of their mind. It makes it look like they’re letting Greg blather on, even though none of his points are novel to them. And Greg has such a massive ego that he doesn’t notice no one is listening to him.

Obviously, yes, Greg probably is just a person without ego talking normally. But him being the only dude in the picture and the only one talking, the mansplaining interpretation is a little too close for comfort, which makes it funny.

Lizardking27@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 00:46 next collapse

"It’s mainly funny, because all the women look bored out of their mind. "

That’s just how people look in most academic conversations.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 10:18 collapse

I wonder why they don’t leave, why do they subject themselves to this guy’s domination?

are they weak or something?

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 05:19 next collapse

It’s a stock photo, people always look kinda awkward in them.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 10:16 collapse

well, my whole class looked like that when we had to listen to the teacher, aint that so in the usa?

not most of the time, but from time to time.

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 11:09 collapse

The picture seems to be from Australia, I’m from Germany, so uh, no idea about the USA. 🙃

And yes, that can be a normal situation, but if we recognize that it’s a joke, we can still see the resemblance and find that humorous.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 11:12 collapse

yeah, it took it far to serious, let it be a joke. ;-)

ich hab auch schon so gelangweilt an einem großen tisch gestanden, in einer gruppe von gelangweilten menschen.

Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 19:19 collapse

We can’t have a dude explain things to girls because girls can’t be interested in what a guy has to say. Girls good. Guys bad.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 04 Sep 2024 17:49 next collapse

Mainsplaining sounds more like a liberal arts degree to me.

boonhet@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 05:29 collapse

Yeah, and those are for women ~/s~

match@pawb.social on 04 Sep 2024 17:54 next collapse

he has a PhD in breaking

BetaBlake@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 22:49 next collapse

“hello ladies, my name is Larry Haser, you can call me Laser and I’m going to show you all how to bust a move…first things first; you’ve all seen a kangaroo right?”

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 05:35 collapse

Oh man, I still can’t believe she was an actual breaking academic. Just incredible.

frezik@midwest.social on 04 Sep 2024 18:06 next collapse

Is that a Risk map? Is he mansplaining the Siam Camp strategy?

Gingernate@programming.dev on 04 Sep 2024 23:30 next collapse

Settlers of catan

Echinoderm@aussie.zone on 05 Sep 2024 04:16 collapse

So the caption is really: “man convinces 5 clearly less enthusiastic friends to play board game.”

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2024 18:12 next collapse

Us-vs-them attitudes are super cool and good.

samus12345@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 18:35 next collapse

People like you would think that.

Edit: /s, since it apparently wasn’t obvious.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 04 Sep 2024 20:05 collapse

You would say that.

smeenz@lemmy.nz on 05 Sep 2024 03:37 collapse

You’re both just the same as each other.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:12 next collapse

No u

NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 16:57 collapse

You’re just like your father.

smeenz@lemmy.nz on 05 Sep 2024 19:54 collapse

Oh of course you would take her side

dingus@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 22:55 collapse

Generally I do agree with that statement. But I think this can be taken in a lighthearted manner. Not every joke needs to be so PC to the point where you’re afraid to say anything and all humor is lost. Humor is subjective tho so I think it’s fair to not like the joke.

UlyssesT@hexbear.net on 04 Sep 2024 18:18 next collapse

When he graduates, he gets a fedora.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 04 Sep 2024 18:27 collapse

If they get a phd, they get a mall ninja sword like Finland.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:22 collapse

And once they become professors, they forget how to keep their Eve Online alerts from interrupting class.

KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2024 19:05 next collapse

im disappointed now that the realization that people could have been making funny jokes about mansplaining has set in.

Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 19:24 next collapse

I never help a female coworker who needs assistance or guidance cause I’ll just be accused of mansplaining. So I let them drown and get called an asshole who doesn’t help so you lose either way.

moriquende@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 23:08 next collapse

If only there was a way of helping without being condescending or immediately assuming oneself to be more knowledgeable or capable on a topic with nothing to base it on other than physical appearance.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 04 Sep 2024 23:10 next collapse

Perhaps you could even ask if they want help first. Crazy idea.

moriquende@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 06:44 collapse

let’s not get too extreme here

Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 02:47 collapse

What’s wrong with asking?

moriquende@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 06:43 collapse

you tell me, since you said you’d rather not help at all

NostraDavid@programming.dev on 05 Sep 2024 11:06 collapse

I’ll just be accused of mansplaining

Have you actually been accused, or are you afraid of being accused? Because in reality, most people don’t give two shits about the idea of “mansplaining”.

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Sep 2024 14:13 collapse

I’m a different person than the one you’ve responded to, but I’ve actually been accused.

I am into weird shit and have ADHD like a bitch so I will often excitedly talk about my interests, or a story involving them, which are sometimes fairly niche and I know I need to explain whatever I am saying to whoever I’m talking to, because I know they don’t know the ins and outs of X. I had an ex accuse me of mansplaining and said she’d prefer if I wait for her to ask before I explain something. Alright, fair enough, I mean I’d say I’m ADHDsplaining because I enjoy our conversations but I can work on that. So I complied with her request, a couple months go by, and she tells me I she hates the way I just assume she knows everything and will just breeze past terms like Castle Nut and Endplate without explaining them. She then didn’t like when I explained that she asked me to do literally exactly that in very gendered terms.

I guess I’m just too neurodivergent for all this “other people” business.

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 20:26 next collapse

I hate that I have to political aline with these people

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 04 Sep 2024 23:03 next collapse

Who are these people?

Edit: interesting couple of answers here

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2024 23:08 next collapse

People who just assume that the add is sexist because a man is talking to women.

MBM@lemmings.world on 05 Sep 2024 08:40 collapse

Nobody is calling the ad sexist lol. The joke is that it’s a bad picture because all the women look bored/unimpressed/annoyed.

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 08:45 collapse

I need to get off social media. My brain is just fucked up from the constant hostility.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 04 Sep 2024 23:13 next collapse

People with a sense of humour.

rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 00:25 next collapse

The Dutch.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:19 collapse

Australians.

Southern Australians.

fosho@lemmy.ca on 05 Sep 2024 03:46 collapse

We hate that we have to POLITICALLY ALIGN with you.

Also it’s “ad” not “add”.

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 07:43 collapse

Neat, you caught some typos

JohnOliver@feddit.dk on 04 Sep 2024 21:15 next collapse

Its ok. He’s probably explaining how menstruation works

myrrh@ttrpg.network on 05 Sep 2024 03:26 collapse

…are you presuming her gender?..it’s a woman’s right to grow a beard if she chooses…

A7thStone@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 08:29 collapse

One joke

x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Sep 2024 03:03 next collapse

Before all this online psyops I think neither men or women would have cared about this.

fosho@lemmy.ca on 05 Sep 2024 03:41 next collapse

mansplained like a true splain

x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Sep 2024 14:24 collapse

Your comment is a good definition of the toxic culture that made all of this stuff controversial.

You can’t even explain a thing anymore.

Or did I mansplain here again? Lmao

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Sep 2024 07:39 next collapse

This has always happened to women. I mean, men do it do men too, but other men counteract that by doing it too. As a cis man I’ve encountered way too many cringe worthy situations from my fellow men.

If you’re never experienced mansplaining you might now actually know what it is about.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 09:40 next collapse

You went off the rail when you used “women” and “men” instead of “people”.

I’m not exactly sure which one is more frequent, the behaviour itself or the accusation thereof as thought- and conversation-terminating cliche, but both suck donkey ass. OTOH it’s not some special grand thing in itself, either, it’s plain old failure to relate and communicate.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Sep 2024 09:50 next collapse

Of course it sucks when both do it. But one group does it far more often. Your argument sounds like the “all lives matter” of “black lives matter”.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 10:40 next collapse

But one group does it far more often.

With “one group” you presumably mean egocentric people in general, and nothing sexed. Because otherwise: Citation or you’re a sexist. And with “citation” I mean “controlled for perceptive biases”.

Your argument sounds like the “all lives matter” of “black lives matter”.

Plenty of citations for racial bias by US police so no, it really shouldn’t. Side note though: The moment the assclowns came up with “all lives matter” the BLM folks should have jumped on it and used it themselves. It’s a much more powerful message, and impossible to argue against. With the momentum they had they could easily have drowned out the racists.

GiveMemes@jlai.lu on 05 Sep 2024 13:59 next collapse

It’s the same way the student protests for palestine died out. The message was inpalatable to the general public because of the rhetoric that was used, whether or not it’s “correct” in the academic sense.

dfecht@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 14:18 collapse

“Mansplaining isn’t real, but quick sidenote here is how the black community should have handled their outrage if they wanted to be more effective.”

Bruh.

By the way, the entire point was to explicitly point out that BLACK lives matter, because they are systematically treated as if they do not, and BLM was an attempt to force people to come to terms with that fact. “All lives matter” is a hollow, whitewashed response that gave racists a shield to hide behind, allowing them to pretend like they cared about “all” lives, but really from its inception all it meant was “White lives matter.” Co-opting that slogan would have just allowed everyone to brush the conversation under the rug even more quickly than they did.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 15:05 next collapse

Mansplaining isn’t real,

Not a thing I said.

but quick sidenote here is how

That was Eurosplaining. I do that all the time to Yanks and I stand by it.

And yes MLK was rotating in his grave that day. What’s your point, here? That it would befit me to want to see black folks being ineffective in their struggle? Is that really where you want to go with this? Want to continue racistjacketing me?

And just for the record I already talked about this with actual BLM organisers. They agreed, it was a missed opportunity, hindsight is 20/20, etc. The issue isn’t even lack of institutional knowledge – the civil rights movement is literally the textbook case on how to stage such things effectively – the “trouble” (not really, but form this perspective) is that the whole movement gained momentum so quickly that people didn’t have time to organise properly.

Co-opting that slogan would have just allowed everyone to brush the conversation under the rug even more quickly than they did.

Co-opting that slogan would have carried on momentum that was broken by getting into a fight with the slogan. It allowed energy to be diverted from opposing specific state structures to opposing a slogan.

This isn’t about “oh but white racists came up with it so now it’s a bad slogan”, it’s not about dictionary semantics at all that’s not how social movements or political messaging works. If Black people shout “All lives matter” then that’s saying “Hey we’re people too”. It’s saying “Not just your lives matter”. It’s also saying “if your schizophrenic kid got shot by out of control police, go come join us”: It allows for a broader movement, overall more solidarity.

You know what’s the worst part about this? The right is really good at this kind of stuff. They understand it. They didn’t go out saying “Black lives don’t matter” or “Fuck N****s”, they went out chanting “All lives matter”. Because they knew exactly that it was their most effective shot at breaking BLM’s momentum, even though they sure as fuck don’t care about all lives.

GiveMemes@jlai.lu on 05 Sep 2024 22:04 collapse

The creator of critical race theory (a very famous and highly regarded black lawyer and law professor) would agree with this guy. If you don’t believe me, look him up. He argued for segregation to remain the law of the land when Brown V BoE occurred, but for ‘separate but equal’ to be actually enforced. Instead, schools were desegregated to change the global American image in the name of the Cold War and fighting the ideological battle. His vision would have seen eventual desegregation over a period of time on a set path to avoid the mass violence and angry sentiment incurred by too fast a change. The same thing happens today with trans and gay people getting called groomers. We were doing alright (in the US) until Obergefell V Hodges. Same thing.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 07 Sep 2024 00:05 collapse

He argued for segregation to remain the law of the land when Brown V BoE occurred, but for ‘separate but equal’ to be actually enforced.

I’m very sure I said nothing about any of that and I’m pretty sure I don’t agree with that take. Even if it actually was viable, as in politically possible to have equality while segregation continues, it sounds like ripping of a bandage slowly, very slowly.

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Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 19:26 collapse

Buddy, you just went off the rail when you decided that means anything other than specifically including both genders in the ‘not caring’ category.

calcopiritus@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 10:34 collapse

Oh yes. Only men mansplain. It’s in the genetics.

Do trans men also mansplain? They’re biologically female, so they might be incapable.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 05 Sep 2024 11:40 collapse

It isn’t only men, it is just the biggest group.

Us men are taught that our opinion is always valuable. A noble goal I am sure.

But women still get too many “go back to the kitchen” comments whenever they give their opinion. From the more sleazy and sexist people around.

Yes, every person has the potential to mansplain, but the group that gets attacked for it the most (even if it is not called mansplaining) tend to do it less.

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 2024 14:19 collapse

Us men are taught that our opinion is always valuable.

As a man I’ve been told no one wants my opinion since the 2000s so I’m not sure where you’re getting this from.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Sep 2024 15:46 next collapse

There’s that saying about equality in an unequal society feeling like oppression. I think it applies here. Of course I don’t know your particular life circumstances but I would bet you’re being a bit hyperbolic.

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Sep 2024 12:44 collapse

It ever was? I was a kid back then, my opinion has never been valued and never will.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 10:59 next collapse

Previously to the word mansplaining this was just men being sexist.

I’m surprised Oldsplaining doesn’t exist as a word.

Taleya@aussie.zone on 05 Sep 2024 12:24 next collapse

Running commentary would still have the same concepts, just not encapsulated in a single word

10_0@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 13:56 collapse

True, mostly igorned this post because it wasn’t particularly funny but it was OK, just came back to it getting ratioed. Now I’m thinking to myself what a timecapsule of a post this is, not heard mansplaining since 2016 yt commentary left vs right stuff. Also saw a comment wishing that they forgot about straight people lol. This comment section is worse than politics posts on !memes.

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addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 06:44 next collapse

maybe he is the teacher?

wait, is he mansplaining how to become a mansplainer to women? did I get the joke?

or is he about to get his mansplaining degree?

there is no joke, is there?

Comment105@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 08:05 collapse

I see your kind with the “there is no joke” nonsense occassionally, and I never know if you’re wilfully obtuse because you don’t like this humor, or really don’t even understand how it could be funny.

I’ll tell you it’s kinda funny.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 09:19 collapse

thanks for your answer.

I don’t think it’s funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

but i often have problems with illogical jokes, and other people don’t seem to care.

Obtuse? how shallow and pedantic.

maybe it is like a meta joke, that makes fun of women complaining about mansplaining in settings where it has to be expected?

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 05 Sep 2024 09:58 next collapse

I’ll bite. The joke is funny because it is this kind of joke that comes from a place of desperation about our current world and how unfair it is and twists it sarcastically.

There are power imbalances and sexist tropes pervading all of our interactions, men mansplaining stuff are everywhere. Men get believed more often and and people associate more authority with them. Also, men see other men as subjects that they can compete or bond with, but see women largely as objects that they want to possess and control. This is the patriarchy and the setting for our little joke here.

And in the light of all this sexism, it seems so frustrating to see an university running ads with obviously sexist tropes of one guy explaining stuff to all women around him. It doesn’t matter how anyone of these people identifies for our joke, because the message stays the same.

Saying “oh look you can do a master’s in mansplaining now” is funny because it desperately goes for any other explanation that the real reason for this ad is, namely sexism. “This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?” It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

I guess people who don’t experience a certain discrimination or who are not open to reflect upon it, won’t find this joke funny. Because without the pain and the comedic relief, this wouldn’t be funny. For a deeper explanation of this, see this fabulous video by contrapoints on exactly this topic:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtj7LDYaufM

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 10:11 collapse

“This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?” It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

yeah, that’s what you believe people are thinking.

I guess you are a woman. i am a man. so i am mansplaining this to you: you don’t know how men see other men. and you have no right to assume you know. stop doing that, it’s exhausting.

And apparently, this is not a joke at all, since what you want to achieve is coping with your insecurities, via condensation thinley veiled as sarcasm.

so the whole thing backfired, and resulted into you having to explain me how i should react.

stop doing that sort of thing, it is manipulation.

so, no wonder the whole thing did not make sense at all.

Disclaimer:

I was joking .-)

i get it after your explanation, I am onboard, it is a really well thought out piece of art, i love how it changes my male ineptitude for the better.

Thanks for the explanation, you were a good catch!

take care .-)

nimms mir nich übel, ich hab dich gefoppt, alles gut, du bist bestimmt ganz cool.

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 05 Sep 2024 11:27 collapse

Joke’s on you, I’m actually a trans woman and have experienced going through the world as a man lol

P.S. deine Antwort erscheint mir so widersprüchlich, dass ich wirklich keimen blassen Schimmer hab, was du eigentlich Aussagen wolltest…

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 11:41 collapse

scheise, wieder reingefallen. bin autistisch und stehe auf logik, das ist alles. ich hab spaß am diskutieren, und ich wollte auf keinen fall deine gefühle und überzeugeungen verlrtzen

moment ma

du bist en kerl. hör bloß auf mit deinem patriarch gelaber, das ist ja opferumkehr oder sowas. naja, ich weiß nich, was es ist, aber irgendwas schlimmes hast du bestimmt angestellt. zumindest als du noch ein kerl warst, hast du männer und frauen als objekte gesehen und alles das. zum glück hast du deine fehler eingesehen und bist ne frau geworden. ne andere lösung für das dilemma scheints nämlich nicht zugeben, da toxische männlichkeit angebohrt, ist und nie weggeht und so.

k hau rein, danke daß du mir den witz erklärt hast, hab auch gelacht, war nett von dir, daß du dir die zeit genommen hast.

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 05 Sep 2024 12:19 collapse

Äh, nee ich bin kein Kerl und war es auch nie. Aber ich habe als trans Frau trotzdem Erfahrungen, wie es ist, als Mann gesehen zu werden. Und natürlich objektifizieren wir alle mal andere Menschen, genauso wie wir ja auch seit klein auf rassistische, sexistische und andere diskriminierende Scheiße gefüttert werden. Niemand wird damit geboren, sondern wir werden so erzogen. Cis Männer sind genauso Menschen wie alle anderen, sie werden aber von Grund auf anders erzogen. Und natürlich hab ich auch schon in meinem Leben Scheiße gebaut, wie alle Menschen sich mal daneben benehmen. Du scheinst hier so ein schwarz-weiß Denken draus machen zu wollen, dass Männer sich scheiße verhalten und Frauen eben nicht. Das stimmt aber definitiv nicht und darum geht es nicht. Der Punkt ist, dass nicht als schon festgeschrieben zu sehen, sondern eben das zu reflektieren und darüber hinaus zu wachsen. Und nein, ich bin keine “Frau geworden”, weil ich da raus wollte, ich bin halt trans. So wie ich halt auch autistisch bin. Und auch cis Männer können was gegen ihre antrainierten Denkmuster angehen. Tun sie halt nur in der Regel nicht. Ich feier jeden Menschen, der seine Männlichkeit verrät und sich selbst reflektiert.

Und ja, ich stehe auch auf Logik und liebe diskutieren :)

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 21:57 collapse

Ich hasse jeden menschen, der Männlichkeit dämonisiert.

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 06 Sep 2024 08:06 collapse

Ah ja, schade, du hast wohl wirklich gar nichts gerafft leider… Naja, ich hoffe du versuchst weiter, daran zu arbeiten und irgendwann daraus auszubrechen.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2024 08:31 collapse

ich ziehe es vor, meinen geschlechtgenossen nicht vorzuschreiben, was sie zu tun, zu lassen, und zu denken haben. außerdem erfreche ich mich nicht, mir einzubilden, daß ich wüßte, was frauen denken, und was sie motiviert.

eins, was ich im meinem leben gelernt habe, ist nein zu sagen, wenn jemand versucht, mich zu dominieren.

und deswegen kannst du tun und lassen wie es dir beliebt, es ist mir wumpe, solange du mich und meine identität aus dem spiel lässt.

smooth_tea@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 12:40 collapse

I don’t think it’s funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

So close. You seem to have Sheldon levels of understanding sarcasm.

It’s just a simple joke about the term being misapplied to an everyday setting.

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 21:37 collapse

i am autistic, i mean, for real. so I often trip over jokes, its far less than in childhood, but still…

smooth_tea@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 09:18 collapse

Haha, I get it, it’s totally fine!

addictedtochaos@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2024 09:21 collapse

thanks, i appreciate it.

[deleted] on 05 Sep 2024 08:00 next collapse

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vga@sopuli.xyz on 05 Sep 2024 08:04 next collapse

“It’s about this long”

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 12:41 next collapse

About 5.5" standard sized.

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 13:53 collapse

“I’d never pooped a log so big before and didn’t realize it was possible”

azi@mander.xyz on 05 Sep 2024 18:12 collapse

“Had to hand-lower it in to prevent splashback. WorkSafe you know”

xelar@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 08:21 next collapse

Its one of the images where people are looking for something to offend them.

MBM@lemmings.world on 05 Sep 2024 08:50 collapse

Do you mean the people that think it’s a funny picture, or those that get offended just by seeing the word “mansplaining”?

xelar@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 09:06 collapse

People like Teacher Dude.

mods_mum@lemmy.today on 05 Sep 2024 08:51 next collapse

I’m tired, boss…

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 05 Sep 2024 10:03 next collapse

This meme gave me some comic relief, thanks for posting! But the comments here are horrible. I would like to forget how lemmy is mostly cis dudes but it’s moments like these it gets super apparent… :(

JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 10:08 next collapse

Maybe you’ll like my interpretation of this image! I believe those women are a coven of witches politely waiting for that guy to finish talking so they can begin their ritual sacrifice to The Morrigan.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 05 Sep 2024 11:15 next collapse

It’s important to show people their own biases which is why I do not remove a lot.

loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com on 05 Sep 2024 11:29 next collapse

Let me help you with the cis dude perspective. I’ll explain it to you in a way you can understand. I’m a guy, I know. . . . /s

Zink@programming.dev on 05 Sep 2024 15:51 next collapse

We should all be decent, empathetic, and compassionate enough people that the demographic breakdown doesn’t create a negative effect like that.

I’m one of the many cis dudes here, and I just cannot get offended when it gets pointed out that other dudes can be assholes. Or that other Americans can be assholes. Or other humans, for that matter.

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 05 Sep 2024 16:09 collapse

Unfortunately that is hardly ever the case. Most people’s way to think about themselves and how they act differs greatly and thus they have to bridge this gap in some way. People like to think of themselves as tolerant, open-minded or empathetic, but once you start to confront them in any way with how they are acting problematic in any way, they usually start to get defensive or try to twist reality around so that it fits with their positive view on themselves. And by “confronting” I don’t necessarily mean that you even have to actually have to tell them about this mismatch, just by existing as a person can trigger this reaction in person. That is, only by being trans or by beingvegan people think that they have to defend themselves somehow. And it gets even trickier to actively help people reflect upon their own actions. The huge number of people that have tried to explain me that discrimination isn’t real is so frustrating. Most people life in their fantasy world not wanting to think critically about themselves. And if one has these mental barriers, empathy or compassion doesn’t really help either because in order to protect their skewed view on themselves they cannot access their empathy.

Redruth@feddit.nl on 05 Sep 2024 16:31 collapse

I am a man, therefore i lemmy.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 05 Sep 2024 11:33 next collapse

All of those faces look really annoyed.

If it doesn’t scream “mansplaining” it at least says “this meeting could have been an email”.

Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Sep 2024 13:21 collapse

All of those faces look really annoyed.

That’s how you know you’re doing it correctly.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems on 05 Sep 2024 13:05 next collapse

Given the /aiml URL they’ve got there I suspect that this is actually a picture of one of their real graduates pitching yet another terrible AI service that burns half a rainforest to badly summarize diet advice or something.

Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Sep 2024 13:20 next collapse

Oh, do they need a professor? I’m available.

Binette@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 13:26 next collapse

The comments in this posts have everything I hoped to not see again once I left reddit for Lemmy 😭

Like I’ve been mansplined before and it wasn’t fun. And no, women are less likely to do that because of societal reasons, not genetics 😂. I’m not even sure if some of the comments come from scientists, with the amount of confusion over social/genetic causes.

Anyways, if you think someone needs help with something, always ask. And when talking to someone, ESPECIALLY if it’s a colleague/classmate, don’t try dumbing down the conversation unless you know the person you’re talking to won’t understand it.

blackstampede@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 2024 15:12 next collapse

Going meta is always allowed. Just say you’re dumbing it down, that you don’t mean to be condescending, and invite them to interrupt if they already understand.

Binette@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 17:05 collapse

Yes, exactly!

Logical@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 19:25 next collapse

Tbh my only gripe with this post is the assumption that because a man is explaining something to a group of women, it’s automatically mansplaining. Although I guess it’s a joke so whatever.

Binette@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 21:20 collapse

Yeah it’s not meant to be taken seriously. It’s because of the girls’ deadpanned expression that it was just twisted this way. Nobody actually believes that this picture is mansplaining. Just a funny coincidence.

SaberKazd@sopuli.xyz on 06 Sep 2024 23:40 collapse

I usually have the opposite happen to me. When someone happens to ask me about something, I tend to go into the specifics and give detailed information that I consider relevant and/or useful, but get complained that I’m “showing off” or being a jerk trying to make them look dumb. I kind of get what they mean, but I still can’t figure out where the line is when considering the other person knowledge of something without coming off as condescending or rude.

Binette@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 00:40 collapse

No I think it’s totally fine to talk a lot about a subject that you like. I do it a lot as well! I usually try to stop though 😅

nl4real@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 13:42 next collapse

Jesus, this comment section is the sort of shit I’d expect from Reddit, lighten up, people!

Zip2@feddit.uk on 05 Sep 2024 14:09 next collapse

Of course! Didn’t they tell you?

Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Sep 2024 14:10 next collapse

Neurotypical people annoyed the autistic person exists.

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 2024 14:21 next collapse

mansplaining is a made-up idea lol

waitmarks@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 14:34 next collapse

All ideas are made up

Daxtron2@startrek.website on 05 Sep 2024 15:17 collapse

I mean it does happen but many people don’t understand what it actually is.

fastfomo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Sep 2024 15:13 next collapse

Why peope saw he mansplaining beside sarcasm? I mean, I didn’t even notice about it before it was a thing. I just always ignore annoying people, that’s all.

Redruth@feddit.nl on 05 Sep 2024 16:44 next collapse

What envious lesbians see when women listen to a man.

LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 18:00 next collapse

It’s so funny because he looks so sincere and precious and all the women look so annoyed but polite haha

duckduckohno@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 20:02 next collapse

It’s been available for over 10 years at PragerU

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 09:27 collapse

Ffs I hate PragerU. The website “All Sides Balanced” quotes them as if they are a reliable and genuine university that does research, when in fact it’s a right wing propaganda machine that spews the already derided laissez faire economics and climate change denialism.

duckduckohno@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2024 08:47 collapse

Yep. Had a friend who thought it was a genuine university, I kept trying to explain how wrong that was… 😅

BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2024 09:34 collapse

Aww shit, there are only women here, can we have the cleaning lady explaining it