Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee
on 15 Mar 19:04
nextcollapse
Dude, how else do you hope to even start comprehending everything else out there! Measuring it makes it even more beautiful
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
on 15 Mar 19:56
nextcollapse
Yeah because there are snakes and insects and herbs and stuff out there and we gotta know how they work and which ones are useful. We are just min maxing our survival strategy to a degree where it doesnt look like survival strategy anymore.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 15 Mar 20:06
collapse
Yep. Thank fuck we invented double blind RCTs.
Otherwise placebo effects might have us still convinced blood letting with leeches works.
Auntievenim@lemmy.world
on 15 Mar 20:53
nextcollapse
What’s absolutely insane about it is that we literally got here by accident. Some homeopathic crank was selling diluted poison water to people, so he created a double blind test to prove his “medicine” was actually better than doing nothing and telling someone they would feel better, which ended up proving him absolutely wrong conclusively along with creating the wellspring of all medical advancement in the last century.
Behind the bastards did a series on the guy who invented this, and how he was a charlatan who’s only achievement was creating the means of proving himself wrong lmao
Added a link if you want to check it out
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 15 Mar 21:48
nextcollapse
I mean, bloodletting is rarely a valid treatment, and leeches can be good for it. The issue was more that it was overprescribed.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 00:03
collapse
Bloodletting was dismissed in the 1870s. The first double blind rct was 1943.
Additionally, we use leeches for certain situations.
In the last 25 years leech therapy has made a comeback in the area of microsurgery and reimplantation surgery. Hirudo medicinalis can secrete several biologically active substances including hyaluronidase, fibrinase, proteinase inhibitors, and hirudin, an anticoagulant.
The leech can help reduce venous congestion and prevent tissue necrosis. In this way it can be used in the postoperative care of skin grafts and reimplanted fingers, ears, and toes. Because of concern regarding secondary infections a “mechanical leech” has been developed at the University of Wisconsin.
That’s just re-aiming an inconsequential fraction of some of the sun’s waste energy. Not control.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 08:16
nextcollapse
We saw it and thought ‘we should invent a process that prevents us from falling prey to the naturalistic fallacy’.
porcelainpitcher@lemmy.today
on 16 Mar 10:34
nextcollapse
Frickn white dudes, probly. I once saw an article by a Native American that read like: “We lived with the land, hunted during day, and had sex at night. Only White Man would think he could improve on that.”
Tattorack@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 11:55
nextcollapse
Hmm hm… And what preventable diseases did people die of? What was the percentage of child death? How many people died from infection due to injury?
Also, blaming this on “white dudes” is throwing every other civilization that developed medicine, farming, and housing under the bus.
Careful with the noble savage fallacy. Europe was constantly ravaged by disease due to animal domestication, in ways the Americas were not. Many Native American civilizations created insane mathematical, ecological, and civil wonders during their existences. They 100% would have used double-blind studies if they had any major reason to advance medicine prior to Europeans bringing plagues.
porcelainpitcher@lemmy.today
on 17 Mar 10:27
collapse
You mean like permaculture and irrigation? Yeah, that stuff was dope. Should I have put ‘/s’ at the end of my comment to make it clear that, whilst true, I wasn’t defending a position?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 11:00
nextcollapse
I’m sorry, I gotta downvote this one, those trials save lives and make it possible to manage diseases that would otherwise cripple us.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 12:11
collapse
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
on 16 Mar 13:12
nextcollapse
whoever wrote this has no idea what those words mean. they could have picked a million things scarier than that, and more confusing. quote some fuckin tax code
blackbrook@mander.xyz
on 16 Mar 15:06
nextcollapse
That looks like an image from a pharmaceutical commercial, so I’d say it’s a little late for that.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 19:43
nextcollapse
Things to look forward to as you get older: You will understand fewer and fewer random things on the Internet.
Humans saw measles, hunger, suffering, etc and decided to come up with science. Double blind trials and all are part of that to make it better and more reliable.
projektilski@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 16 Mar 22:20
nextcollapse
I’m sorry but this is horse shit. Double blind tests are there for a reason. It’s clear that OP does not understand how useful blind tests are and ist scientific purpose. He is probably an audiophile who was told that speaker wire do not make a difference when he bought overpriced cables :D
fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 16 Mar 22:33
nextcollapse
threaded - newest
Dude, how else do you hope to even start comprehending everything else out there! Measuring it makes it even more beautiful
Yeah because there are snakes and insects and herbs and stuff out there and we gotta know how they work and which ones are useful. We are just min maxing our survival strategy to a degree where it doesnt look like survival strategy anymore.
Yep. Thank fuck we invented double blind RCTs.
Otherwise placebo effects might have us still convinced blood letting with leeches works.
What’s absolutely insane about it is that we literally got here by accident. Some homeopathic crank was selling diluted poison water to people, so he created a double blind test to prove his “medicine” was actually better than doing nothing and telling someone they would feel better, which ended up proving him absolutely wrong conclusively along with creating the wellspring of all medical advancement in the last century.
Behind the bastards did a series on the guy who invented this, and how he was a charlatan who’s only achievement was creating the means of proving himself wrong lmao Added a link if you want to check it out
I mean, bloodletting is rarely a valid treatment, and leeches can be good for it. The issue was more that it was overprescribed.
Bloodletting was dismissed in the 1870s. The first double blind rct was 1943.
Additionally, we use leeches for certain situations.
Thanks professor, clearly we were wrong for thinking double blind is good if the leeches were dismissed without it.
Wow… You okay?
I wanna control the sun
Close your eyes, that’s as close as you’ll get.
Magnifying glass (you know, to burn stuff)?
HERETIC!
Open your eyes, Children of the Lense! Harness the power of the Unbridled Star!
IT IS GOD’S PROVIDENCE WHERE THE SUN SHINES. MAN IS NOT TO MEDDLE IN SUCH MATTERS! REPENT NOW OR FACE YOUR GOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT!
That’s just re-aiming an inconsequential fraction of some of the sun’s waste energy. Not control.
We saw it and thought ‘we should invent a process that prevents us from falling prey to the naturalistic fallacy’.
Frickn white dudes, probly. I once saw an article by a Native American that read like: “We lived with the land, hunted during day, and had sex at night. Only White Man would think he could improve on that.”
Hmm hm… And what preventable diseases did people die of? What was the percentage of child death? How many people died from infection due to injury?
Also, blaming this on “white dudes” is throwing every other civilization that developed medicine, farming, and housing under the bus.
Careful with the noble savage fallacy. Europe was constantly ravaged by disease due to animal domestication, in ways the Americas were not. Many Native American civilizations created insane mathematical, ecological, and civil wonders during their existences. They 100% would have used double-blind studies if they had any major reason to advance medicine prior to Europeans bringing plagues.
You mean like permaculture and irrigation? Yeah, that stuff was dope. Should I have put ‘/s’ at the end of my comment to make it clear that, whilst true, I wasn’t defending a position?
I’m sorry, I gotta downvote this one, those trials save lives and make it possible to manage diseases that would otherwise cripple us.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8558b783-6170-42a1-a230-1ba49d0bd611.jpeg">
How’s this?
YES!
YEEESS!
So far I have never excited anyone this much in my entire life
That’s what your wife told us all
I wish I had a wife
Edit: don’t tell my boyfriend
☹️
whoever wrote this has no idea what those words mean. they could have picked a million things scarier than that, and more confusing. quote some fuckin tax code
That looks like an image from a pharmaceutical commercial, so I’d say it’s a little late for that.
Things to look forward to as you get older: You will understand fewer and fewer random things on the Internet.
Amen
Yeah, no.
Humans saw measles, hunger, suffering, etc and decided to come up with science. Double blind trials and all are part of that to make it better and more reliable.
I get this is a meme, but this is kinda out there
Trash post.
I’m sorry but this is horse shit. Double blind tests are there for a reason. It’s clear that OP does not understand how useful blind tests are and ist scientific purpose. He is probably an audiophile who was told that speaker wire do not make a difference when he bought overpriced cables :D
It’s an absurdist joke. X)
Yeah but have you seen the state of things? One man’s absurdist joke is apparently another man’s deeply held belief right now.
:( 4chan why did you become this
I too prefer 32 core copper cable with 99% purity, sugar coated for reduced emf and distortion.
Well, after we ate that bowl of flowers and got the runs for 3 days straight, killing Bob, we wondered to which flowers are the toxic ones
Dude these comments are a bunch of buzz kills