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from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 09:17
https://mander.xyz/post/17395512

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RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Aug 2024 10:05 next collapse

What’s the meme here

assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 10:10 next collapse

That the Sumerian’s will use anything but metric.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 10:54 collapse

Apparently, muricans are a lost tribe of Sumerians.

Hold on a sec. I need to write up some golden tablets or something.

mkwt@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 11:38 collapse

Well you see, in 1793, 'Merica requested the metric artifacts from France so we could be metric too. France sent over a kilogram, but the shipment was lost at sea. And that was a little sad.

All joking aside, US feet, inches, pounds, and so on have been secretly really metric since 1893.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 2024 11:51 next collapse

Sumerians also tried to metrify, but the copper weights they bought mysteriously corroded

vonxylofon@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 14:13 collapse

Rude.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 11:59 collapse

eh.

Fun fact. if you use your knucklebones to count instead of fingers, and you use multiplication instead of addition you can get to 144 counting on your fingers. (i.e. one digit on the second hand is equal to a full hand- 12- on the first.)

yeah. some bullshit about that being why we have 12 hours, and 12 inches in a foot, is totally going into those golden tablets.

(IIRC, we have 12 hours because there was 10 hours of daylight in Egypt, and an hour on either end for twilight. that evolved into the 24 hour system we have today.)

I think I’ll call my new religion Bullcrap Bulk’rap bulq’rap.

Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Aug 2024 13:19 collapse

You can count up to 1023 without knucklebones if you use a positional representation.

TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net on 30 Aug 2024 12:36 next collapse

This guy doesn’t get bronze age humor.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 2024 17:25 collapse

Paleolithic mfers will see you writing a stone tablet and think “this fool doesn’t know how to sharpen a rock” 😂😂😂

kamiheku@sopuli.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 13:59 collapse

It’s a screenshot of a Twitter post, that’s a meme right?

Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca on 31 Aug 2024 05:04 collapse

Well if we want to get pedantic, every unique thing passed around and spread is a meme. Jokes, art styles, idioms, words, greetings, most social behavior really. And you can go a step further and say diseases, species, even all of life is a meme.

And if there ever was a place to use this definition of meme it would be… LinguisticMemes, but this is a good second place.

kamiheku@sopuli.xyz on 31 Aug 2024 06:49 collapse

Well if we want to get pedantic

Let’s! You are absolutely right, of course.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Aug 2024 11:45 next collapse

How much for the weight? I’ll take two.

Asafum@feddit.nl on 30 Aug 2024 14:15 next collapse

Weren’t there like full blown civilizations at that point? Kinda weird to refer to mammoths as if it were some stone age prehistoric period and be surprised that someone could craft something like this then lol

Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net on 30 Aug 2024 14:29 next collapse

To be fair it’s still hard to get over that Mammoths were still around at that point; it really feels like they’re from a much earlier era. Also hard to really grasp how advanced people were even that early on.

MadBob@feddit.nl on 30 Aug 2024 14:36 next collapse

I think the pyramids at Giza were a few millennia old at that point eh?

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 2024 17:14 collapse

Not millennia, but several centuries.

MadBob@feddit.nl on 31 Aug 2024 09:16 collapse

Oh, silly me, haha.

SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 17:39 collapse

Several, yes. Egypt, Uruk, Indus, etc

elucubra@sopuli.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 14:29 next collapse

If I remember correctly, Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one, if not the main cause of their extintion.

Also constructions like Gobekli tepe, with it’s carvings and decorations, predate the extintion of Mammoths by something like 6000 years.

Malgas@beehaw.org on 30 Aug 2024 15:27 next collapse

Hell, there were still mammoths around when the pyramids at Giza were built.

Pygmy mammoths, on an island in northern Siberia, but still.

Pips@lemmy.sdf.org on 30 Aug 2024 18:05 collapse

Count it!

shalafi@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 18:20 next collapse

Well, that’s a new word on me. Thought spell check corrected contemporary.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 2024 19:39 next collapse

Well, ice age ended and elephants still live.

milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee on 31 Aug 2024 08:21 collapse

I… am so disappointed this didn’t go where, for a split second, my brain thought it was going.

Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one

Chickens are dinosaurs - and humans are mammoths!!

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 31 Aug 2024 10:51 next collapse

birds are the continuation of the theropod dinosaur lineage.

humans are the continuation of the early synapsid lineage also present at the time (which later gave rise to the early mammal progenitor).

when people say birds are dinosaurs they mean the lineage didn’t branch as much as it did for humans, which I think is more survivorship bias than anything.

flerp@lemm.ee on 01 Sep 2024 00:33 collapse

People say birds are dinosaurs because every living thing is in every clade of it’s ancestors which means they are dinosaurs. They’re also a lot of other things from all of the other clades so they’re not saying that birds are just dinosaurs, but that they are part of Dinosauria and every other clade of their ancestors and so too will all of their descendants be.

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 01 Sep 2024 11:19 collapse

Yes, one could say birds have skeletons in the same manner. I guess I’m just trying to understand what the opposing position before was the great revelation birds are dinosaurs was uttered. I’m perpetually confused by this expression.

elucubra@sopuli.xyz on 31 Aug 2024 19:11 collapse

Birds are dinosaurs. Humans are not mammoths

EddoWagt@feddit.nl on 31 Aug 2024 19:49 collapse

Don’t tell me what I am and am not

Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net on 30 Aug 2024 14:33 next collapse

That’s nothing; Tigers and Pandas are still around in the same time period as the electronic device you used to post this!

When people are using mental interface devices to gravitate to their Mars colony it’ll be such a mindbender to realize ye olde memes were being made at the same time all those mammalian fossils from extinct species like elephants and rhinos were carbon dated to!

WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Aug 2024 16:10 collapse

<img alt="A horrifying mashup image of Pepe the Frog blended with Tony the Tiger. Text: “Rare Pepe’s of antiquity. They’re grrrrrrreat!”" src="https://i.imgflip.com/91wyal.jpg">

BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one on 30 Aug 2024 17:36 next collapse

Holy fuck this carving looks absolutely beautiful

shalafi@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 18:19 collapse

You too, huh? Something about it speaks to me. The simplicity, clean lines, dunno?

TragicNotCute@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 20:57 next collapse

I think it’s something about the skill needed to make this and the fact that no machines were involved. It’s quite something though.

bamfic@lemmy.world on 31 Aug 2024 05:34 next collapse

Modernist art deco, like it was made in the 1930s

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MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 31 Aug 2024 12:25 collapse

Not just the clean lines, but the smooth curves too. It’s difficult to do something like this and not make it all bumpy and uneven. Definitely lots of skill and time involved.

Etterra@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 18:06 next collapse

That is a locust.

theangryseal@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 20:18 next collapse

Ur mom is a locust. Huht huht huht.

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c176c50e-f869-4b26-a2e1-42a8516cbb1e.gif">

prayer@sh.itjust.works on 30 Aug 2024 20:37 next collapse

Maybe, but a locus is a type of grasshopper.

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 31 Aug 2024 10:44 collapse

grasshopper are light thin and green. that is easily double the mass, chonky, and looks like it’s ready swarm downtown LAPD

Hacksaw@lemmy.ca on 30 Aug 2024 21:20 next collapse

Locusts ARE grasshoppers. If enough grasshoppers group up in the same area they literally become locusts and fuck everything up.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust

Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee on 31 Aug 2024 13:39 collapse

One hopps grass the other grasses hopps.

SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world on 31 Aug 2024 03:47 next collapse

Just using some tiny mammoth population on an isolated island in Siberia to state “MAMMOTHS WERE STILL ROAMING THE EARTH WHEN BLAH BLAH BLAH” is somewhat disingenuous.

Gloomy@mander.xyz on 31 Aug 2024 09:38 next collapse

Also pretending that 4000 years ago humans were still hunter gatherers or something (it’s kind of implied in the wording imo). 4000 years ago there were plenty of fairly developed civilisations around.

witx@lemmy.sdf.org on 31 Aug 2024 09:41 collapse

Is it a lie though?

Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works on 01 Sep 2024 01:26 collapse

Roaming the earth means roaming all - or at least a very significant portion of - the earth, not some very isolated region. So I would say yes - if some tiny population of mammoths was still alive in some limited area at this time, they were not ‘roaming the earth’.

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world on 31 Aug 2024 04:29 next collapse

Hematite = best tite

xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works on 31 Aug 2024 06:57 collapse

tite (or titi) means penis in my language

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 31 Aug 2024 10:39 collapse

he ma means “him, mother” in my language

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works on 31 Aug 2024 07:09 collapse

The eyes don’t make sense to me. How did they know to use this pattern? Are there some really big grasshoppers out there?

BigBenis@lemmy.world on 31 Aug 2024 07:53 next collapse

The aliens lent them a magnifying glass

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 31 Aug 2024 10:39 next collapse

No doubt there are insects big enough to be able to see the patterns on the eyes without magnification.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 31 Aug 2024 12:22 next collapse

An alternative that I like to use in the lab is squinting and holding the sample really close to my face. Perhaps they used my method if the bugs weren’t big enough?

Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee on 31 Aug 2024 13:18 collapse

I mean, yes (Im losing that ability as I age :(), but also it’s not that far fetched to just conclude all insects are built about the same.

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 31 Aug 2024 20:08 collapse

For sure, I just like posting stupid things on memes.

I think your lab needs to get you a giant magnifying glass with a light so your squinting days can continue. They’re super nice for things that can’t go under a microscope. So far I’ve been lucky myself, but many of my colleagues my age experience the same problem. Some day I would like to get a macro camera so I can just show them pictures.

Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee on 31 Aug 2024 22:19 collapse

Some day I would like to get a multi-camera bionic eye implants or like a Star Trek visor ribbed for my pleasure.

Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee on 31 Aug 2024 13:29 collapse

  1. Exactly this. Just eyesight & time.
  2. Not to mention that some insects even have a bit of contrast between the lenses so it’s easier to understand they are compounded.
  3. And additionally due to individual lenses compounded eyes arent smooth - by reflecting light at different angles you can make the “bumps” obvious.
  4. Also if there is like a water droplet on grasshoppers eyes you can clearly see it’s surface structure. Just like you can see individual pixels on your (high dpi phone?) screen the same way.

Tho I bet they didn’t study this ones eyes:

<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fipbk3dk5ycy71.jpg">

<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fticotimes.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F06%2FTinker-Bell-Wasp.jpg">

<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FCKcVTxBCiUwAlNKeovIrDLINdt6bFo6l8XHN2kf-9p4.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ded0a4cf0210e088a2c1b4b31ca80d0a219fff88b">

It’s called a fairy wasp (wiki/Megaphragma_mymaripenne) and it’s only the third smallest insect known.

<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2F64.media.tumblr.com%2F19cc35b5219a7b6646d79d6f5272cac9%2F5dc003de0009b5c9-fc%2Fs1280x1920%2F5da1e8d847a50b6b0068a214d48da8dc21582572.png">

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 31 Aug 2024 12:37 next collapse

I’m sure they had plenty of experience with bugs in their environment, both alive and dead. I’m sure you can see the eyes pretty well close up.

EddoWagt@feddit.nl on 31 Aug 2024 19:48 collapse

Grasshoppers can get quite big

www.flickriver.com/photos/artour_a/266458852/