Just wait until they build one on the back of a snail.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 02 Oct 15:57
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That’s a fun idea for a game. You’re growing a bee colony that has evolved a symbiotic relationship with a species of snail. They feed and defend the snail, while they build the nest on the back.
The wasps probably won’t be able to emerge if the concrete dust sets.
Imagine being entombed by your parents. Born in an inescapable coffin.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
on 02 Oct 16:47
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Born in an inescapable coffin.
Ah, so real life then.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Oct 17:21
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Yes, it certainly bears semblance to my first 9 months in solitary confinement, before the hag dragged me out from her wretched womb. Curse you vile woman!
My grandma used to tell me they don’t sting so I wouldn’t freak out when one was near me. Little kid me was a gullible fool.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
on 02 Oct 20:06
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mud daubers usually are as far from aggressive as yellow jackets are assholes.
ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
on 02 Oct 20:34
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They can sting, but they (anecdotally) sting less readily than some other species of wasps. I’ve been around them all my life and never have been stung. But, I’ve never intentionally messed with them. On the other hand, I’ve been stung by a couple other species that were far less patient with my presence in their general area.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social
on 03 Oct 03:19
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I’m ngl I also been told that and believed it. I don’t really feel very gullible since I’ve never actually been stung by one? Even destroying their nests doesn’t seem to make them aggressive.
If I am understanding the chart here correctly, bees are not a type of wasp. Bees, wasps, ants, and sawflies are all Hymenopterans, but distinct from each other.
To be specific, bees are a “Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa” of wasps, since they are within Apocrita.
The common-language definition of wasp is literally “A member of Apocrita … except bees (and ants)”.
It’s the same situation as saying a chicken is a dinosaur, and why the field often uses “non-avian dinosaurs” instead for clarity.
Take now for example Stephanoidea, “a superfamily of parasitic wasps within the Apocrita”. Clearly wasps, yet equally closely related to yellow-jackets and honey-bees.
Edit: mixed up Aculeata and Aulacidae.
Edit2:
If you go further into Apoidae, even there you still find plenty more “clearly wasp” type species:
I call BS. All their nest here look like this because we have grey clay soil. I’ve actually never seen a brown nest. Doesn’t help their credibility that they call them mud bees. They are the red wasps and I’ve known them as mud daubers.
Not knowing the name of a bug is barely evidence of anything, but otherwise I agree. I’ve never seen any kind of wasp nest or even dried mud period that was actually brown and not a whitish, ashy, tan to gray.
I wanna see video of the nest attempting to be crushed to prove it’s concrete. Actually scratch that. It doesn’t even look like it was made by an insect; it could be concrete but was made by human hands for the bit. The holes are too perfect.
BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online
on 02 Oct 19:16
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Those are wasps, buddy, and it’s going to get worse.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
on 02 Oct 19:56
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That’s so cool. A few more hives and you can do dangerous bouldering
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Oct 20:45
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That’s cool. Mud daubers are extremely chill and will only sting you as an absolutely last resort. They also are great at keeping the spider population down. Which I’m a little torn on because I love spiders since they eat mosquitoes, and mosquitoes can fuck off and die afaic.
Wait until you find thier storage area. It will be a rock that you overturn, or maybe a space between two boards filled with paralyzed spiders and other insects … Google it if you dare.
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Oct 01:30
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I will search that! Sounds cool. Why are there no giant mud dauber horror movies I wonder?
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Just wait until they build one on the back of a snail.
That’s a fun idea for a game. You’re growing a bee colony that has evolved a symbiotic relationship with a species of snail. They feed and defend the snail, while they build the nest on the back.
You should check out the game Wandering Village. Its not bees and snails, but you do build a village on a giant beast that you can feed.
For a second i thought you mistitled Reus but fair enough its a different game and this concept a new genre.
A bee-craft carrier?
My god…
That snail that will kill you on touch just got an upgrade.
That reminds me there’s a game called Shadows of Doubt! You are a detective in a dystopian cyber noir world where corporations run everything.
Anyway they just added a mode to have the damned snail always after you while you’re trying to take on jobs and solve crimes
I love this game. I highly recommend it.
For the people less chronically online than apparently @Triumph@fedia.io and myself. lemmy.ca/post/52674587
another bee W
How long do we have till they discover reinforced concrete.
7years. Nuclear weapons by 11years.
Bee AI powered drones in 14 years
That’s a bit slow for a Factorio run, but impressive nonetheless.
Hey, I love getting sidetracked!
Especially since they started with drones unlocked!
As covered in the documentary Wax, Or The Discovery Of Television Among The Bees.
Someone else in the thread just broke the bad news, they’re already there:
smithsonianmag.com/…/officials-discover-radioacti…
That’s awesome
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Poor bees. That’s got to be hurting them, right? Isn’t concrete caustic?
I imagine if it hurt, they would pick some other material.
They mix it with some material they produce, so it won’t behave like pure cement. Also, after you mix it, concrete isn’t caustic.
Good point.
Very, cement has a pH of around 11
Ah, so real life then.
Yes, it certainly bears semblance to my first 9 months in solitary confinement, before the hag dragged me out from her wretched womb. Curse you vile woman!
BigDanishGuy, I said no toys at the table.
This isn’t a toy, it’s a revolution! proudly waves the vibrator
Yeah, never heard them called mud bees. Only ever heard them as dirt / mud daubers, and they’re very obviously wasps.
They don’t hurt as much as you’d think, but you’ll still feel it for a day or two
My grandma used to tell me they don’t sting so I wouldn’t freak out when one was near me. Little kid me was a gullible fool.
mud daubers usually are as far from aggressive as yellow jackets are assholes.
They can sting, but they (anecdotally) sting less readily than some other species of wasps. I’ve been around them all my life and never have been stung. But, I’ve never intentionally messed with them. On the other hand, I’ve been stung by a couple other species that were far less patient with my presence in their general area.
I’m ngl I also been told that and believed it. I don’t really feel very gullible since I’ve never actually been stung by one? Even destroying their nests doesn’t seem to make them aggressive.
Lol my dad did the same. I never got stung tho and avoided some anxiety
Full of spiders.
I hate cleaning these up because they’re fucking spider piñatas. Yeah the spiders are dead by then, but just, fucking eww.
So there are 2 on my porch that desperately need to be cleaned up, anyone?
Shop vac?
You still kinda have to smash them with a mallet.
Or even grosser melt them with a wet rag :(
nah fam i will pass
Bees are technically a kind of wasp.
If I am understanding the chart here correctly, bees are not a type of wasp. Bees, wasps, ants, and sawflies are all Hymenopterans, but distinct from each other.
That graph does contain bees among wasps.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/fd0a4f13-dfff-4b37-9856-c4e5a4a91277.webp">
To be specific, bees are a “Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa” of wasps, since they are within Apocrita.
The common-language definition of wasp is literally “A member of Apocrita … except bees (and ants)”.
It’s the same situation as saying a chicken is a dinosaur, and why the field often uses “non-avian dinosaurs” instead for clarity.
This wikipedia diagram from the Aculeata article is a bit more concise:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/6d56d62d-0779-4be2-b979-c9a426d08640.webp">
Take now for example Stephanoidea, “a superfamily of parasitic wasps within the Apocrita”. Clearly wasps, yet equally closely related to yellow-jackets and honey-bees.
Edit: mixed up Aculeata and Aulacidae. Edit2:
If you go further into Apoidae, even there you still find plenty more “clearly wasp” type species:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/fbf2e3bd-d6b3-4cda-a2ce-12546a961d6c.webp">
Take Sphecidae:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/ab2fe5fa-989a-4343-91d9-cd331ac71da7.webp">
Or Philanthidae:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/7200d3a4-767b-4faf-9ee0-c328f362db47.webp">
All on the same level as actual bees (Anthophila).
I think also in terms of vibes it feels right to call bees a subset of wasps.
Does it come with a cask of good wine?
<img alt="" src="https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/da128a55-6db0-46f9-9e0d-9124d82a9a1b.jpeg">
You speculated correctly. The brood cannot escape. I even found a scientific paper about it: it: researchgate.net/…/328054285_A_Fatal_Nest_Constru…
if you get too close, they will poke you with tiny bee spears too
It could be worse… radioactive wasps
Struggling with believing this due to the nature of wet concrete. Maybe there’s not enough water in their saliva to trigger the reactions?
I call BS. All their nest here look like this because we have grey clay soil. I’ve actually never seen a brown nest. Doesn’t help their credibility that they call them mud bees. They are the red wasps and I’ve known them as mud daubers.
Not knowing the name of a bug is barely evidence of anything, but otherwise I agree. I’ve never seen any kind of wasp nest or even dried mud period that was actually brown and not a whitish, ashy, tan to gray.
I wanna see video of the nest attempting to be crushed to prove it’s concrete. Actually scratch that. It doesn’t even look like it was made by an insect; it could be concrete but was made by human hands for the bit. The holes are too perfect.
Those are wasps, buddy, and it’s going to get worse.
That’s so cool. A few more hives and you can do dangerous bouldering
Typical mud wasps, a decade late to the crocs craze.
that’s some hardcore Resident Evil shit.
That’s cool. Mud daubers are extremely chill and will only sting you as an absolutely last resort. They also are great at keeping the spider population down. Which I’m a little torn on because I love spiders since they eat mosquitoes, and mosquitoes can fuck off and die afaic.
Wait until you find thier storage area. It will be a rock that you overturn, or maybe a space between two boards filled with paralyzed spiders and other insects … Google it if you dare.
I will search that! Sounds cool. Why are there no giant mud dauber horror movies I wonder?
Metal bees.
enjoy the lyme. little dumbasses, suck my dick
- me who couldn’t make a leanto in the forest because it’s cold and there’s bugs
The bees that live there:
<img alt="" src="https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/14adafca-e10e-42b2-8360-eb49d6906170.jpeg">