too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
on 22 Sep 21:11
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There was also the hole drilled in the ISS. AFAIK, nobody was ever held responsible but it was definitely vandalism at least.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 Sep 22:32
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Was it ever confirmed to be intentionally drilled? Last I heard, they were still in the “it could have simply been a piece of space dust moving insanely fast” part of the investigation.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 00:18
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Yeah, the area around the hole had marks from the drill bit slipping and it was haphazardly patched and hidden.
fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net
on 23 Sep 21:26
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That was in a soyuz and the leading theory on that was it was done on the ground
TomMasz@piefed.social
on 22 Sep 19:59
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Is ISS network traffic monitored? Because if it is, this was a really dumb crime.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
on 22 Sep 20:13
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To my understanding, she wasn’t determined to have actually committed it, just was accused
It’s probably fully recorded. Everything in and out.
That way if there’s a mishap it’s possible to go back and reconstruct the entire sequence or to replay high fidelity simulations of the network traffic at the equipment to reproduce problems.
jrubal1462@mander.xyz
on 23 Sep 00:17
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Please tell me this entire thing wasn’t an elaborate add for NordVPN.
oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 23 Sep 18:53
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Even without monitoring, it probably has a unique IP/subnet that shows the traffic came from the ISS. And the financial institution is definitely recording IPs.
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website
on 22 Sep 20:03
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Someone with musical talent, please start a band and name it “Lesbian Space Crimes” 😆
fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net
on 22 Sep 20:04
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FWIW, she was cleared and her ex-wife charged with making false statements.
i dont want to have to see them not do crimes, please do that in your own room
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub
on 22 Sep 21:11
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This shouldn’t be omitted from the meme. Astronauts are some of the most level-minded people in this world, given the risks they face every moment.
I don’t think jealousy or insecurity would be a common occurrence given how busy they are.
TheBannedLemming@lemmy.world
on 22 Sep 21:47
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Actually, there was a high profile and notorious case of a female NASA astronaut and Naval officer named Lisa Nowak, who was placed on trail and convicted of felony burglary and misdemeanor assault charges. This all stemmed from an affair she was having with a fellow astronaut named Bill Oefelein, who both of them were married to different people at the time.
When Bill decided to call the affair off and started to see another woman, an Air Force Captain named Colleen Shipman. Lisa had an emotional breakdown and after her own marriage had failed. Planned on possibly kidnapping Colleen. She was eventually arrested at Orlando International Airport that she had followed Colleen to. Besides the criminal convictions listed above, she was dismissed from NASA and demoted in rank and forcibly retired from the Navy.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub
on 22 Sep 22:35
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I don’t know man, this seems like an obvious case of alien body snatching. They just never learned to act like regular humans.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
on 23 Sep 01:43
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Don’t forget about the part where she wore a diaper while driving so she wouldn’t have to make any pit stops.
Considering that’s standard procedure in space flight take offs, it doesn’t sound soooo weird
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
on 23 Sep 16:33
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You aren’t pulling 7 g’s in a space suit lying horizontal with fifty thousand pounds of hydrozene fueling a giant rocket with no off switch when you’re driving down the road in a car. Some situations are different than others.
Well she says she did not use them (I guess just shitting in place)
“She drove her husband’s car 900 miles (1,400 km) from Houston, Texas, to Orlando, Florida, to confront Shipman. Early police reports stated that she wore Maximum Absorbency Garments during the trip, but she later denied this.”
From Wikipedia, but it must be noted the trip was made by herself in such a short time that poop had to happen.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 00:53
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Sometimes you gotta poop in the McDonald’s bathroom despite everything you know about life.
From what I remember about the trip, she would not have had time. It was a road trip that made the cannonball run look tame.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
on 23 Sep 11:01
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Having bowel movements as infrequently as a few times a week is still considered healthy. Perhaps not as healthy as daily, but that isn’t the point of this discussion. Doing the speed limit in most areas of North America means this trip could be done in about 14 hours, plus fueling time (I’ve done a similar trip in 10). If she sped just 10% over the speed limit, which is generally considered little enough to not attract the attention of the police in my area, she could have done it in less than 13. Not only is it conceivable she could have done this without having to poop, if she managed her fluid intake, she quite possibly could have done this without having to pee.
None of this has any bearing on whether she did poop or pee, but she was an astronaut, and astronauts are known for their ability to plan ahead. And I suspect any denial issues she had (what else is going to make you think continuing a relationship with a kidnapping is going to have a happy ending?) didn’t revolve around her waste elimination processes. So she could very well have worn undergarments to deal with those problems as a precautionary measure and just not used them.
The diapers might have been for the target of her little roadtrip rather than herself, because the other things she packed sounded like a shitty kidnapping plan.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 16:53
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When there was just one to three guys in a capsule, yes. The Shuttle brought in a lot more scientists on board.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 17:47
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Yeah, but Buzz Aldrin is still alive and he’s definitely still his own variety of batshit insane given him beginning his fourth marriage at 93 years old.
The whole of the Apollo 11 crew didn’t just go to the moon, they did it after the initial crew were incinerated.
The shuttle crews looked for responsible people of exceptional skill. But the early astronaut crews were looking for adrenaline junkies with advanced degrees in science and engineering and experience flying in incredibly dangerous conditions.
A jury of astronauts would be kind of fun if it were possible for them not to know each other already, but I don’t think that’s possible with the current number of astronauts
Ships in intl waters are still governed by the laws of their flag state. I don’t see why this wouldn’t also apply to the ISS as a US-flagged vessel
Edit: I assume the modules are flagged differently. I imagine Zvezda and the Soyuz’s are flagged Russian, etc. or maybe the ISS is jointly flagged under US and Russian laws at the same time. Or the laws of the citizens home country is applied individually or something.
uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website
on 23 Sep 00:46
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sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 23 Sep 04:38
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I thought some of the Apollo astronauts were illegally enriching themselves by selling a service where they would take people’s stuff to the moon in their private gear allowance, and then give it back.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 16:58
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The Apollo 15 crew got in trouble for something like that, postage stamps I think.
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Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Identity Theft doesn’t quite have the same ring to it
Best band name ever.
Headlining this Friday night! With special guest Gay Zombie Super Soldiers! $10 at the door, 21 and up, doors open at 8pm.
“Falgsith” for short
I think that makes for a better album name
Wait when did it change from laser to luxury I missed the update
Welcome to the future, old man
Didn’t someone already commit theft in space?
Yeah, she stole my heart
username checks out
There was also the hole drilled in the ISS. AFAIK, nobody was ever held responsible but it was definitely vandalism at least.
Was it ever confirmed to be intentionally drilled? Last I heard, they were still in the “it could have simply been a piece of space dust moving insanely fast” part of the investigation.
Yeah, the area around the hole had marks from the drill bit slipping and it was haphazardly patched and hidden.
That was in a soyuz and the leading theory on that was it was done on the ground
Is ISS network traffic monitored? Because if it is, this was a really dumb crime.
To my understanding, she wasn’t determined to have actually committed it, just was accused
Yup:
So the person who’s identity was stolen blamed someone who was literally in space at the time? LOL
The person who claimed to have had their identity stolen, yes
Probably safe to assume that it is.
It’s probably fully recorded. Everything in and out.
That way if there’s a mishap it’s possible to go back and reconstruct the entire sequence or to replay high fidelity simulations of the network traffic at the equipment to reproduce problems.
Please tell me this entire thing wasn’t an elaborate add for NordVPN.
OnBoard VPN
Even without monitoring, it probably has a unique IP/subnet that shows the traffic came from the ISS. And the financial institution is definitely recording IPs.
Someone with musical talent, please start a band and name it “Lesbian Space Crimes” 😆
FWIW, she was cleared and her ex-wife charged with making false statements.
“lesbians are accused in 100% of space crimes” is a much less fun statistic.
The original statement is still vacuously true so your can keep saying it :D
Lesbians continue to flaunt their spotless space criminal record
i dont want to have to see them not do crimes, please do that in your own room
This shouldn’t be omitted from the meme. Astronauts are some of the most level-minded people in this world, given the risks they face every moment.
I don’t think jealousy or insecurity would be a common occurrence given how busy they are.
Actually, there was a high profile and notorious case of a female NASA astronaut and Naval officer named Lisa Nowak, who was placed on trail and convicted of felony burglary and misdemeanor assault charges. This all stemmed from an affair she was having with a fellow astronaut named Bill Oefelein, who both of them were married to different people at the time.
When Bill decided to call the affair off and started to see another woman, an Air Force Captain named Colleen Shipman. Lisa had an emotional breakdown and after her own marriage had failed. Planned on possibly kidnapping Colleen. She was eventually arrested at Orlando International Airport that she had followed Colleen to. Besides the criminal convictions listed above, she was dismissed from NASA and demoted in rank and forcibly retired from the Navy.
I don’t know man, this seems like an obvious case of alien body snatching. They just never learned to act like regular humans.
Don’t forget about the part where she wore a diaper while driving so she wouldn’t have to make any pit stops.
Considering that’s standard procedure in space flight take offs, it doesn’t sound soooo weird
You aren’t pulling 7 g’s in a space suit lying horizontal with fifty thousand pounds of hydrozene fueling a giant rocket with no off switch when you’re driving down the road in a car. Some situations are different than others.
Wild how emotional trauma can change people huh.
Yeah but what the hell am I supposed to do woth this novel drsft Lesbian Space Criminal Lovers now?
Why was I not told sooner the story was a lie???
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak
There are exceptions to the whole level minded thing.
I know this is the poop drive without even opening the link.
Among other things.
Putting those diapers to good use
Well she says she did not use them (I guess just shitting in place)
“She drove her husband’s car 900 miles (1,400 km) from Houston, Texas, to Orlando, Florida, to confront Shipman. Early police reports stated that she wore Maximum Absorbency Garments during the trip, but she later denied this.”
From Wikipedia, but it must be noted the trip was made by herself in such a short time that poop had to happen.
Sometimes you gotta poop in the McDonald’s bathroom despite everything you know about life.
From what I remember about the trip, she would not have had time. It was a road trip that made the cannonball run look tame.
Having bowel movements as infrequently as a few times a week is still considered healthy. Perhaps not as healthy as daily, but that isn’t the point of this discussion. Doing the speed limit in most areas of North America means this trip could be done in about 14 hours, plus fueling time (I’ve done a similar trip in 10). If she sped just 10% over the speed limit, which is generally considered little enough to not attract the attention of the police in my area, she could have done it in less than 13. Not only is it conceivable she could have done this without having to poop, if she managed her fluid intake, she quite possibly could have done this without having to pee.
None of this has any bearing on whether she did poop or pee, but she was an astronaut, and astronauts are known for their ability to plan ahead. And I suspect any denial issues she had (what else is going to make you think continuing a relationship with a kidnapping is going to have a happy ending?) didn’t revolve around her waste elimination processes. So she could very well have worn undergarments to deal with those problems as a precautionary measure and just not used them.
The diapers might have been for the target of her little roadtrip rather than herself, because the other things she packed sounded like a shitty kidnapping plan.
Didn’t they used to be pulled from test pilots?
When there was just one to three guys in a capsule, yes. The Shuttle brought in a lot more scientists on board.
Yeah, but Buzz Aldrin is still alive and he’s definitely still his own variety of batshit insane given him beginning his fourth marriage at 93 years old.
The whole of the Apollo 11 crew didn’t just go to the moon, they did it after the initial crew were incinerated.
The shuttle crews looked for responsible people of exceptional skill. But the early astronaut crews were looking for adrenaline junkies with advanced degrees in science and engineering and experience flying in incredibly dangerous conditions.
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So there’s never been crime in space?
Wonder who will be first
Not exactly…
That should be a romcom with Adam Sandler.
Straight female astronaut drove 900 miles to confront her rival.
https://www.biography.com/musicians/lisa-nowak-lucy-in-the-sky
Yeah but she wasn’t in space just had a space diaper.
Distinction without a difference. If you’re wearing the space diaper you’re basically experiencing everything there is to experience about space.
Jane Fonda has entered the chat…
https://youtu.be/cIyxYSpqucA?list=RDcIyxYSpqucA
There’s also an astronaut currently in jail for, I think, manslaughter? Killed someone while drunk driving? Question mark?
Man, if you get run over by a rocket, even if the drivwr is drunk, I feel like its your own damn fault. Those suckers are huge.
Your Honor, with all due respect, my client can only be put on trial by a space judge and a jury of her space peers
A jury of astronauts would be kind of fun if it were possible for them not to know each other already, but I don’t think that’s possible with the current number of astronauts
sure it is, if they add bezos and katy perry or whatever
i’ve been on an airplane, that doesn’t make me a pilot
yeah but are you super rich?
Is space international waters? Does anything go?
Ships in intl waters are still governed by the laws of their flag state. I don’t see why this wouldn’t also apply to the ISS as a US-flagged vessel
Edit: I assume the modules are flagged differently. I imagine Zvezda and the Soyuz’s are flagged Russian, etc. or maybe the ISS is jointly flagged under US and Russian laws at the same time. Or the laws of the citizens home country is applied individually or something.
Are you saying that the simpsons lied to me?
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smash the patriachy by being the first criminal in space.
God forbid women do anything
I thought some of the Apollo astronauts were illegally enriching themselves by selling a service where they would take people’s stuff to the moon in their private gear allowance, and then give it back.
The Apollo 15 crew got in trouble for something like that, postage stamps I think.
Smuggling moon rocks back to Earth to be sold on the black market is also pretty lucrative iirc.
Bringing “Be Gay Do Crime” to another level
Sounds like there may be a jurisdiction problem.
Lesbians… Those bitches be (statistically) crazy