Uh. Norwegian chiming in. That translation is really bad. I would never translate slutt that literally means end or stop as graduate or the other way round. For graduate I would translate it to fullført (completed).
Also datafag may be used some places i suspect, but I haven’t seen it used in higher education. Maybe it was used earlier. But now the terms datateknikk or informatikk are the most common. I have a degree named dataingeniør myself.
The grammar is bad as well. The of is superimposed in the translation. It should have been slutten/enden av datafag to be correct Norwegian. But by then the joke is fully gone.
vivendi@programming.dev
on 27 May 19:51
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You should bring back the usage of datafag as fast as possible
Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net
on 27 May 12:59
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Rolig nå
Erika3sis@hexbear.net
on 27 May 13:10
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Norwegian fаg (subject, discipline, etc) is cognate with English fack (sense: rumen) and Fach (method of classifying opera singers’ voices), all from Proto-West Germanic *fak (division, compartment, period, interval), which is speculated to come from the PIE root *peh₂ǵ- (attach, fix, fasten) which also gives us words as diverse as fang, fast, propaganda, hapax and peace.
Å slutte (to end, stop, quit etc) from Low German sluten from Proto-Germanic *sleutaną (to bolt, lock, shut, close) which is where we get the word slot (sense: broad, flat wooden bar for securing a door or window) from. Believably from the PIE root *(s)kleh₁w- (hook, cross, peg; to close something) whence also words like close, clavicle, cloister and claustrophobia.
This being said, slutt datafаg is not really a normal way to say “graduate computer science”. To me it reads more like commanding someone to “quit computer science!”, more like dropping out than graduating, right? A more normal phrasing in my eyes might be, I dunno, å fullføre utdanningen sin i datafаg, “to complete one’s education in computer science”.
For completeness sake there’s Low Saxon “Slunt”, note the n, meaning “rag” as well as “disorderly, dirty person”. If you want to use it call a woman promiscuous have the decency to use the diminutive. Not related to German “Schlund”, gullet, that’d be Slunk. I can’t find any proper etymology but my guess would be that English lost the “n” at some point.
Funnier are words like Gröönhöker. That’s the same roots as “green” and “hooker” but it’s not what you think, it’s someone who can hook you up with the green stuff, a greengrocer. Or the perfectly cromulent toponym Quickborn meaning “lively spring”.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 27 May 16:24
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Just gonna slide in here to say that both that and the original is basically gibberish, my best-effort translation of the last one would just be “stop computer science educated”
Kind of. I’m just saying they posted a screenshot of a translation not currently happening and I could easily see it be edited in browser with dev tools or Photoshop for Internet points
dumbass@leminal.space
on 27 May 21:12
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Thought so, the end of finding dory taught me the meaning of slutt.
It probably is real. Google Translate gets updated and translations change over time. It used to translate “inglasat uterum” (Swedish) as “glazed uterus.”
Yeah I only learned it verbally hanging out with the Norwegian family of a friend of mine. I didn’t speak much but I learned to understand quite a bit just from hanging out at their house all the time. And that was in the late 80s. I think I did okay. 😎
Due to the Norwegian language conflict there have been various competing forms of written Norwegian over time, two of which have been officially recognized as equally valid by the Norwegian parliament since 1885. Both apparently changed their spelling of “slut” to “sludd” in the 21st century, Bokmål in 2005 and Nynorsk in 2012, presumably in an effort to encourage English speakers to make jokes about Swedes and Danes instead of them.
Sure, except the Norwegian spelling is “slutt”. The pronunciation is a bit different from the English word “slut”, the English one uses more of a ø-sound for the u. “sludd” is the Norwegian word for sleet, which is a mix of snow and water, this is even stated by your sources.
Experience with English and Norwegian (should probably have sourced it), but also from wikitionary. There are some audio examples here:
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slut
IPA for the word “slut” is /slʌt/, the upside-down V sounds like this. While not exactly the same sound as Ø, the audio examples on wikitionary for “slut” sounds closer to Ø for me, as I use Ø daily in Norwegian.
Edit:
Norwegian uses this sound for the “u” in “slutt”, the full IPA for it is /ʂlʉtː/. For some reason there isn’t IPA for “slutt” in Bokmål, but the Nynorsk pronunciation is the more or less the same. Sadly there isn’t an audio recording of the word on wikitionary, but it has a double consonant which is a fun rabbit hole in Norwegian.
I’m nowhere near being an expert on languages and phonology, but I think the Ø-sounds in the Nordic languages are more or less the same. With some tiny differences on pressure, pitch, and maybe tone. Close enough to be considered the same in my opinion. It probably boils down to what would mostly be accent and dialect differences between the languages.
TomasEkeli@programming.dev
on 29 May 11:44
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“Slutt” (means end) is not commonly used for “sludd” (means sleet), though. Never actually seen “sludd” spelled like that, but “slutt” meaning end is extremely common.
I wouldn’t expect any Norwegian to read “slutt” and assume it meant sleet.
TomasEkeli@programming.dev
on 29 May 11:07
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Joke hinges on English “slut” being spelled like the Norwegian word for end, “slutt”, but it actually isn’t.
Swedes being very silent over in the corner…
unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 May 11:58
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I took two years of Norwegian in university, and in my first-ever class, tthe prof, a lovely woman originally from Sweden, brought us cookies.
One girl didn’t make it to the second class because sis could literally not say ‘småkaker’ without bursting into laughter.
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Damn, never knew I was a graduate computer science.
Im about to become a slut in a few months.
Funny thing I was already a slut before I earned my computer science degree.
all Norwegian movies end with a reminder i am a slut
slutt is a verb here
norwegian is however a lanious serguage
Uh. Norwegian chiming in. That translation is really bad. I would never translate slutt that literally means end or stop as graduate or the other way round. For graduate I would translate it to fullført (completed).
Also datafag may be used some places i suspect, but I haven’t seen it used in higher education. Maybe it was used earlier. But now the terms datateknikk or informatikk are the most common. I have a degree named dataingeniør myself.
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Another noggie here - Yes, they’re named after the effect they have on your digestive system after passing them at too high speeds.
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As a native English/German speaker, this sign just makes so much sense. Very onomatopoeic. I love it
Speed Bump just doesn’t hit as hard
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Let it loose before you get on the bus.
You’re on a bus with others, you all ate too much beans, and it turns out there’s a bomb on the bus that goes off if it detects too high fart smell.
lmao it even looks like cheeks spreading
Informatikk sounds pretty nuts, too
edit: I learned a new word today
Its a loan word for Informatics
Oh gotcha. Still, there is something about the double k at the end that gives it some edge (a third k would have the opposite effect, to be clear)
I guess. Any word ending with ics ends with ikk in Norwegian basically. Ceramics - keramikk, electronics - elektronikk, etc.
I totally read it as “datakink”…
Turns out, neither would Google translate
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The grammar is bad as well. The of is superimposed in the translation. It should have been slutten/enden av datafag to be correct Norwegian. But by then the joke is fully gone.
You should bring back the usage of datafag as fast as possible
‘Oh boy, I can’t wait for that new indie action film “Fullført Informatikk” to release!’
Du lukter dridtgodt.
Hjemmebrent.
Takk.
Dra til helvete.
That’s the extent of my Norwegian. I hear it’s all you need really.
As a Norwegian, I concur.
For some reason I have you tagged as dansk/norsk
Lol, because I’m a Norwegian living in Denmark. 😎
Noggie here; You’ve got the important ones. Meet me next year for Norwegian 201 - Phrases to use when your karsk tastes weird.
Ingen fart uten bart.
It’s not the fart that kills you, it’s the smell.
Rolig nå
Norwegian fаg (subject, discipline, etc) is cognate with English fack (sense: rumen) and Fach (method of classifying opera singers’ voices), all from Proto-West Germanic *fak (division, compartment, period, interval), which is speculated to come from the PIE root *peh₂ǵ- (attach, fix, fasten) which also gives us words as diverse as fang, fast, propaganda, hapax and peace.
Å slutte (to end, stop, quit etc) from Low German sluten from Proto-Germanic *sleutaną (to bolt, lock, shut, close) which is where we get the word slot (sense: broad, flat wooden bar for securing a door or window) from. Believably from the PIE root *(s)kleh₁w- (hook, cross, peg; to close something) whence also words like close, clavicle, cloister and claustrophobia.
This being said, slutt datafаg is not really a normal way to say “graduate computer science”. To me it reads more like commanding someone to “quit computer science!”, more like dropping out than graduating, right? A more normal phrasing in my eyes might be, I dunno, å fullføre utdanningen sin i datafаg, “to complete one’s education in computer science”.
For completeness sake there’s Low Saxon “Slunt”, note the n, meaning “rag” as well as “disorderly, dirty person”. If you want to use it call a woman promiscuous have the decency to use the diminutive. Not related to German “Schlund”, gullet, that’d be Slunk. I can’t find any proper etymology but my guess would be that English lost the “n” at some point.
Funnier are words like Gröönhöker. That’s the same roots as “green” and “hooker” but it’s not what you think, it’s someone who can hook you up with the green stuff, a greengrocer. Or the perfectly cromulent toponym Quickborn meaning “lively spring”.
The first one is real but not the second.
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Use it as a part of some other compound. It will translate fine.
For example, try slutt datafag lærd
Just gonna slide in here to say that both that and the original is basically gibberish, my best-effort translation of the last one would just be “stop computer science educated”
Yes well google translate sucks
However datafag is rad as shit so I’m going to invoke law of cool vs boring
Then let me bestow this blessed knowledge upon thee
A field of study is called “fagfelt”
There is no way Norwegian is a real language
Is graduating not a synonym for ending?
Kind of. I’m just saying they posted a screenshot of a translation not currently happening and I could easily see it be edited in browser with dev tools or Photoshop for Internet points
Thought so, the end of finding dory taught me the meaning of slutt.
/nocontext
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It probably is real. Google Translate gets updated and translations change over time. It used to translate “inglasat uterum” (Swedish) as “glazed uterus.”
It means glass-encased veranda.
It no longer translates it to that.
I had to check, the Finnish word “kinkkukiusaus” which is a ham and potato casserole, still translates to “ham temptation”
Discussing language and using English to do so, is hysterically ironic. “Is that how you pronounce it? I’ve only ever seen it written!”
The English interpretation of the Norwegian pronunciation still works since the ‘a’ sound is the same as in “dawn”.
Jeg snakke ikke Norsk.
Jeg snakker* ikke norsk*.
Yeah I only learned it verbally hanging out with the Norwegian family of a friend of mine. I didn’t speak much but I learned to understand quite a bit just from hanging out at their house all the time. And that was in the late 80s. I think I did okay. 😎
In what case I’d say you did absolutely fenomenal!
The lecturer and TA’s for a university course combined tend to get referred to as the “fagstab”.
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I prefer the unbreedable trucks.
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Same, truck 😔
Yeah, imagine words having different meanings in different languages
Due to the Norwegian language conflict there have been various competing forms of written Norwegian over time, two of which have been officially recognized as equally valid by the Norwegian parliament since 1885. Both apparently changed their spelling of “slut” to “sludd” in the 21st century, Bokmål in 2005 and Nynorsk in 2012, presumably in an effort to encourage English speakers to make jokes about Swedes and Danes instead of them.
Sure, except the Norwegian spelling is “slutt”. The pronunciation is a bit different from the English word “slut”, the English one uses more of a ø-sound for the u. “sludd” is the Norwegian word for sleet, which is a mix of snow and water, this is even stated by your sources.
Where did you get that the English pronunciation had ø-sound?
Experience with English and Norwegian (should probably have sourced it), but also from wikitionary. There are some audio examples here: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slut
IPA for the word “slut” is /slʌt/, the upside-down V sounds like this. While not exactly the same sound as Ø, the audio examples on wikitionary for “slut” sounds closer to Ø for me, as I use Ø daily in Norwegian.
Edit:
Norwegian uses this sound for the “u” in “slutt”, the full IPA for it is /ʂlʉtː/. For some reason there isn’t IPA for “slutt” in Bokmål, but the Nynorsk pronunciation is the more or less the same. Sadly there isn’t an audio recording of the word on wikitionary, but it has a double consonant which is a fun rabbit hole in Norwegian.
That’s suprising, I always thought it would be similar to ö in Finnish where I’m from. And swedish ö as in öl and danish ø as in smørrebrød.
I’m nowhere near being an expert on languages and phonology, but I think the Ø-sounds in the Nordic languages are more or less the same. With some tiny differences on pressure, pitch, and maybe tone. Close enough to be considered the same in my opinion. It probably boils down to what would mostly be accent and dialect differences between the languages.
“Slutt” (means end) is not commonly used for “sludd” (means sleet), though. Never actually seen “sludd” spelled like that, but “slutt” meaning end is extremely common.
I wouldn’t expect any Norwegian to read “slutt” and assume it meant sleet.
Joke hinges on English “slut” being spelled like the Norwegian word for end, “slutt”, but it actually isn’t.
Swedes being very silent over in the corner…
I took two years of Norwegian in university, and in my first-ever class, tthe prof, a lovely woman originally from Sweden, brought us cookies.
One girl didn’t make it to the second class because sis could literally not say ‘småkaker’ without bursting into laughter.