I'm thinking taffy.
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 10 Dec 2024 23:32
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LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net on 10 Dec 2024 23:36 next collapse

Depends on the exact composition but most lavas are going to be way more viscous than honey.

The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org on 10 Dec 2024 23:50 next collapse

So… Treacle?

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 14 Dec 2024 09:23 collapse

Ohh, wow, you solved a long-standing mystery to me! I’ve been listening to a lot of discworld novels and could not figure out what “treacle mine road” was supposed to translate to. Now that I know the spelling I could finally look it up. Thanks! ❤️

[deleted] on 11 Dec 2024 00:24 next collapse

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kn33@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 01:09 collapse

Does “very thick” mean nothing to you?

BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network on 10 Dec 2024 23:44 next collapse

You can eat anything once. If your brave enough.

NeatoBuilds@mander.xyz on 10 Dec 2024 23:56 next collapse

Just shove an insulated hose through your esophagus and out your bunhole and pass lava through it

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 00:30 collapse

Holy mackerel

anomnom@sh.itjust.works on 11 Dec 2024 14:47 collapse

Silicon coated fiberglass should work. Just make sure the cuts are clean or you’re gonna get itchy.

De_Narm@lemmy.world on 10 Dec 2024 23:57 next collapse

When does something count as being eaten - once you swallow it? I don’t think you’d succeed at that with lava.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 03:08 collapse

You’d be able to taste it which I think would fulfill the requirements of knowing its texture.

atomicorange@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 05:12 next collapse

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atrielienz@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 12:59 collapse

People who eat the Carolina reaper prove that this is both not a deterrent, and may in fact be the point. On the other hand I’ve never heard any of them talk about the texture afterward. So maybe the burning is too distracting.

rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio on 11 Dec 2024 23:29 collapse

As someone who’s eaten many sauces and spice blends that incorporate Carolina reaper peppers, spiciness isn’t the same as temperature with regard to heat. Lava’s heat is physically destructive and one’s tongue would likely be immediately burned beyond recognition. One wouldn’t have time to assess the “taste” or texture at all before writhing in agony from severe burns.

In contrast, I can eat a hot sauce made from super hot peppers and, while I’m in agony from the extremely potent capsaicin in the peppers, I haven’t damaged my tongue in the process so I can actually taste the flavor and detect the texture of the food.

TheFogan@programming.dev on 11 Dec 2024 16:58 collapse

pretty sure the taste buds die before they can send their report to the brain.

rockerface@lemm.ee on 10 Dec 2024 23:59 collapse

In fact, lava is so nutritious it will fill you up for the rest of your life!

Ultrathor@hexbear.net on 10 Dec 2024 23:56 next collapse

It most definitely has a satisfying snap when you break the surface tension of a nice steamy blob. Maybe similar to a warm Mozzarella.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 11 Dec 2024 02:31 collapse

New headcanon is lava has the consistency of cheese sticks

Gadwin100@sh.itjust.works on 11 Dec 2024 00:02 next collapse

I’ve had it in cake form. Pretty good.

grue@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 03:14 collapse

I choose to believe you’re taking about having pica, not eating a molten chocolate cake.

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 07:34 collapse

you’re missing out

crawancon@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 01:02 next collapse

mmm forbidden spicy honey

FireRetardant@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 01:43 next collapse

I imagine it tastes like sand but spicy

felixwhynot@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 05:18 collapse

Gotta taste pretty sulfurous right?

deegeese@sopuli.xyz on 11 Dec 2024 01:43 next collapse

Some kinds would be foamy, so like very thick cake batter.

hihi24522@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 01:54 next collapse

Ice is a mineral. Thus, water is lava. Hence, you eat lava every day, and it is not the texture of thick honey. QED.

GiveMemes@jlai.lu on 11 Dec 2024 03:30 collapse

Gate to be the party pooper but lava is specifically molten rock, and rock is a mixture of multiple minerals. As single mineral is not rock. (As far as a quick Google is verifying, open to correction by an expert)

Ashen44@lemmy.ca on 11 Dec 2024 04:39 next collapse

Conclusion: mineral water is lava

hihi24522@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 05:22 next collapse

Does Hank Green count?

Furthermore, by your definition of rock, basically all crystals are not rocks. Quartz is a single mineral. It is also considered a rock. As are all other gemstones which are a single mineral. If you think impurities count then again water counts because it has minerals like fluoride and carbonate and halite (salt) in it.

Now one could make the argument that lava is specifically molten rock extruded from beneath the surface of a terrestrial planetary body to its surface. In which case, water on earth doesn’t typically fit that description unless it’s like melted permafrost that melted before getting drawn to the surface or something.

However, on a very cold terrestrial planetary body which was comprised partly of ice, thermal vents / volcanoes would produce water and it would fit the definition of lava. Water is certainly lava in that context.

Considering that physics is assumed consistent across the universe, water viscosity would have the same range regardless of where in the universe it was. Ergo, the water you drink may not be earth lava but it is the exact same viscosity as the water that is lava.

So you still know what the mouthfeel of lava is even if you’ve never ingested any “real” lava.

Sidenote, if you really do want to figure out how silicate lava feels, you could probably find the dynamic viscosity of a certain lava flow and then create caramel under the right conditions to get approximately the same viscosity. Eating butter and sugar might not be healthy but it definitely is less immediately damaging than pouring 700°C fluids into your mouth.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 07:17 collapse

Saltwater it is!

toiletobserver@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 02:04 next collapse

The viscosity of most lava is about that of ketchup, roughly 10,000 to 100,000 times that of water

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava#:~:text=The viscosit….

BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 06:04 collapse

Alright so I got curious. For the non people-who-know-what-viscosity-is-measured-in people out there, viscosity is measured in centipoise, which is 1/100 poise. Water is 1 centipoise, hence why we use centipoise over poise. Don’t ask me any more than that because I have no idea what I’m talking about.

Lava is anywhere between 10,000 - 1,000,000 cP. According to this chart, there are many edible things that fall within that viscosity. Now lava is very hot, so if we’re going to simulate the experience of eating lava in a safe way with edible ingredients, we need something that is that viscous at high temperatures. This page (PDF warning) says that 140f (60c) is the highest temp food can be without burning you immediately.

There isn’t much on the above chart that is both edible and has its viscosity measured around those temps. The most promising one was chocolate, which is about 25,000 cP. But it doesn’t have a temperature listed. According to lived experience and my ass, melted chocolate has a pretty consistent viscosity at various temperatures, making it a suitable stand in for molten lava.

However, viscosity isn’t the end all be all of a lava eating experience. Lava is rocks and rocks are dense. Lava also looks like it would be sticky. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything on the chart that matches the density of lava that is still edible (2600-2800 kg/m^3 for those who were curious). And there is also no unit of measurement for stickiness. But google tells me that some lava is sticky like peanut butter. So our edible lava needs to be considerably dense (thus, chewy) and sticky.

With these things in mind (viscosity, chewiness, and stickiness), I think the best edible stand ins for molten lava would be hot peanut butter (250,000 cP), with honorable mentions being rice pudding (10,000 cP @100C), and hot toothpaste (70,000 cP @40C). Color them bright orange and maybe throw in some Carolina reaper for authenticity and baby you’ve got some edible lava going

pupbiru@aussie.zone on 11 Dec 2024 07:04 next collapse

hot orange toothpaste with carolina reaper? michelin star

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 07:31 next collapse

mount stHelens star

BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 16:28 collapse

It’s called molecular gastronomy and it’s art, m’kay?

yetiftw@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 07:46 next collapse

now is that kinematic or dynamic viscosity?

BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 16:34 collapse

Idk. I’m an EMT with two semesters of community college under my belt lol. I was just googling and correlating things that I have no practical knowledge of

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Dec 2024 08:23 next collapse

That seems suspiciously low viscosity. When we see lava running down a volcano it’s already cooling down, and is much more viscous. I think that’s the image OP has in mind when thinking of honey. Lava with the viscosity of warm chocolate would be lava fresh out of a volcano.

TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 12:13 next collapse

well check how many things on that list are 1M cP

i_love_FFT@jlai.lu on 11 Dec 2024 12:16 collapse

If we use hot peppers to stimulate the nerve endings sensitive to “hot”, then we can probably cool down the chocolate such that it has the desired viscosity.

Melted hot pepper chocolate with orange coloring, that would sell!

TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works on 11 Dec 2024 13:46 collapse

Yes I would like two please

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 11 Dec 2024 10:37 collapse

Delicious comment

Raiderkev@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 02:12 next collapse

You absolutely can eat lava… Once

Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone on 11 Dec 2024 04:05 collapse

I dunno, eating implies swallowing, I’m not convinced you could definitely get there.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 04:46 next collapse

And it’s quite heavy, being rock and all. So imagine very weighty honey.

chiliedogg@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 12:04 collapse

Yeah. You know all those is movies and stuff where people sink in lava?

Nope. It’s too dense. You’d be so buoyant you’d just stay on top.

Geobloke@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 22:14 next collapse

Who you calling buoyant?

gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Dec 2024 23:34 next collapse

Hey, asshole, don’t you tell me how dense I am, I’m an AMERICAN

jumps into lava for freedom and sinks

psud@aussie.zone on 12 Dec 2024 05:27 next collapse

I must not watch the right things, I don’t recall ever seeing media of a person sinking in lava. The closest was the Terminator being immersed in molten metal, but he was probably more dense than the molten metal being made of room temperature metal

faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Dec 2024 06:58 collapse

Gollum at the end of Lord of the Rings. Apart from that I’m not sure

melooone@feddit.org on 12 Dec 2024 07:13 next collapse

Terminator

psud@aussie.zone on 12 Dec 2024 07:21 collapse

I wonder what the surface tension of magma is, anyway thanks, I had forgotten that one

CitizenKong@lemmy.world on 12 Dec 2024 08:16 collapse

I always thought that it just looks like they sink because their bodies are instantly vaporized at the point where they meet the lava.

gofsckyourself@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 07:24 next collapse

I’d imagine something like this

youtu.be/t86YqdtXf4E

pigup@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 11:59 next collapse

'a’ā or pāhoehoe?

austinfloyd@ttrpg.network on 11 Dec 2024 13:17 next collapse

It’s gotta be pahoehoe (the one that looks like honey being stirred)

atomicorange@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 19:47 next collapse

'a’ā looks like it would fizz like pop rocks.

niktemadur@lemmy.world on 12 Dec 2024 04:37 collapse

Imagine the terminology if instead of it coming from the study of the Hawaiian volcano system, it came from the Icelandic one.
Then we’d be memorizing words like herliaphongoffjlyur.

AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee on 11 Dec 2024 22:22 collapse

Lava is rocks. Liquid rocks is still rocks.

offspec@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 2024 22:54 next collapse

Yeah but salt is rocks and that stuff is delicious

samus12345@lemm.ee on 12 Dec 2024 00:42 collapse

Yeah, but since it’s a liquid it doesn’t have the texture of solid rock.