No, you can still be fugly on the inside. These are separate and the lack of one doesn’t imply anything about the other. You might be able to fix one of them, though… ask a plastic surgeon.
I know many many artists, and none of them would resist an offer to do what they’re passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or to do what they’re not very passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or even something they downright hate doing, in exchange for lots of money. Having lots of money means you can invest in those things you are passionate about.
And yet, lots of people choose not to do what they hate for money. Obviously, if you can get paid well for doing what you love is a win-win, but the point of my argument is that a lot of people don’t really care about money, beyond having enough to get by.
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de
on 05 Jan 13:00
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She did an interview in which she said that she did not like the academia Life but wants to focus on her social media career, which includes of, but also a YouTube channel where she published science related videos
So still doing science stuff, but not pursuing a PhD anymore.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip
on 04 Jan 18:51
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academia is toxic for everyone, but especially for women, and especially in STEM
AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 21:10
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The stories my female doctor friend tells me about treatment from male colleagues or female superiors is freaking rage-inducing. But 99% of the time she can’t do shit about it because she’ll be ostracized or risk her job, or in the past risk residency or placements. It suuuucks.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
on 04 Jan 23:01
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6 downvotes from people going “not from me, I treat bitches nicely”.
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 04 Jan 18:35
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I hope she’s saving for retirement. How does she expect to make money when she gets older and the OnlyFans crowd no longer wants to masturbate to her videos?
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
on 04 Jan 18:42
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OnlyFans has a reputation for people exploiting their looks. OnlyFans users have a reputation for judging people based on their looks. As you may have noticed, people tend to be judged as less attractive as they get older.
I’m not endorsing that system, I’m just evaluating it based on how people act.
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
on 04 Jan 22:35
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So does the NFL. Are you making sure NFL players are saving for retirement, too?
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 04 Jan 23:02
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If one posted here, I sure would! It’s a shame when people who have usually been exploited most of their lives are allowed to go bankrupt.
originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
on 05 Jan 09:12
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You think a woman choosing to enter sex work is being exploited? OF and the NFL can be exploitative platforms, but because they are corporations, not because someone on the internet forgot to save the people taking part in those enterprises
thr0000witaway@lemmynsfw.com
on 04 Jan 18:43
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obviously like any sporting personality who gets too old for sport you coach the next generation of only fans contenders, and manage their social media presence, marketing etc. all for a small % of their takings.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
on 04 Jan 18:53
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Nobody sees a sports athlete get a million dollar contract and says “I hope this guy is saving for retirement. How does he expect to make money when he can’t pitch fastballs at 100 mph?” Why does this comment only happen to women being models?
It’s actually discussed a lot in sports. There are many stories of athletes who earned millions and were broke just a couple of years after retirement because they didn’t have the right people around to help them prepare.
In a 2009 report published by Sports Illustrated, it was estimated that 60% of NBA players will go broke within 5 years of retiring.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
on 04 Jan 19:47
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I have a theory about that that I’ll now subject lemmy to! Professional sportsers are often heavily managed from a very young age (practice schedules, diet monitoring, weightlifting regime, traveling). Even in college they often have to sign up for special versions of classes to fit with their schedules (on top of the diet/exercise/practice/travel) making fewer of their own day to day decisions than their peers. When they leave the sport they don’t have all these other people dictating their lives anymore but they haven’t had enough experience living on their own or room to make certain mistakes they would have learned from if they’d been in charge of more of their time and decisions.
Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 20:17
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I’ve actually found that college athletes (the ones I get to teach) are much better prepared (for “adulting”) than their peers at graduation. They have much better time management skills and tend to manage and navigate group dynamics better. I think some of what you are saying heavily depends on the sport or perhaps athletic level. I’m not teaching anyone near going pro, they just like their sport and enjoyed the scholarship.
Yeah, that’s cause there is a big difference between someone who is going to college and also playing sports vs someone at college to play sports.
If your a student athlete that is never going pro, then you need good time management, keep up grades, etc. If your someone going pro things are a lot different.
From what I’ve heard, you’re right. While athletes are pulling in money for the people upstairs, people take care of them. Once they retire, they become worthless to management/ownership, so they’re thrown to the wolves. With no money management skills of their own, a lot of them go broke.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 20:04
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I’m going to make a generalization and say that someone in a PhD program (any PhD program) is more practical and better at handling financial planning than 95% of all professional athletes.
Yeah recently heard a sports announcer saying that it was amazing that a 31-year-old was playing at the level that they were.
I was like, bro, he's 31. What the fuck.
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 04 Jan 19:01
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I guess I’m weird, then, because I think that - especially regarding Olympic athletes in sports that don’t have much of a following.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
on 04 Jan 22:58
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i just repeated what others below said better
a ton of famous athletes go broke after retiring because they are retired at like 35 or 40 with an unsustainable lifestyle. So many bad car dealerships and bad restruarants are retired pro athletes trying to maintain a lifestyle that they should have avoided while destroying their body for cash.
That depends on whether or not people find her only fans.
Tinidril@midwest.social
on 04 Jan 19:04
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If she’s not a complete idiot, she probably already has more retirement savings than the average gen-xer. Assuming the pyramid scheme that is our stock market keeps growing, she might have already saved all she needs to. If the bubble collapses, she will just be living in a mad max apocalypse with the rest of us.
walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz
on 04 Jan 19:42
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Lol having a PhD doesn’t get you a pension. She’ll make more from OF than she’d ever make by staying in academia.
So much this. PhD just means you are earning significantly less than your peers for at least six years, and then if you stay in academia, it’s less your whole life. There are some nice perks though, but for purely monetary reasons, you do not go for a PhD.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 01:28
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Yeah basically the only PhD that pays is AI research if it can get you a job at OpenAI.
I guess but who is going to hire someone that’s been out of work for years?
Trying to explain to some hiring manager that you took several years off to show your genitals online is a pretty bad place to be.
OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
on 05 Jan 20:42
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when she is old and used up
Downvoted for blatant misogyny
eestileib@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 18:40
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She probably gets treated more respectfully by her OnlyFans viewers than her co-workers in her PhD program.
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
on 04 Jan 18:55
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Have you never seen the insanity that is reddit's porn section?
And thats how "respectful" they act when they're Not paying for it.
Nythos@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 19:15
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Some of the comments you see on posts of young women announcing they’re “barely legal” and in the comments you’ve got >45 year old men saying what they’ll do.
It’s just so creepy and unsettling.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 19:51
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Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
45 year old men making gross propositions is not at all unusual. And often those are the people deciding whether you have a professional future.
Nythos@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 20:22
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Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
I can’t say that I have and my comment was in no way meant to that it doesn’t happen to them.
That’s what we invented cancel-culture for, isn’t it?
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 01:25
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That doesn’t apply when you’re a PhD student and your supervisor is the tenured department head. You can try blowing everything up to pursue a sexual harassment case but that’s gonna be the end of your PhD.
Just STEM in general. My wife almost left her engineering program because harassment came from the male students as well as the male professors. The handful of women in my engineering school all hung out together and moved as one. Strength in numbers and all that. It was really shit for them. Dudes would just yell “omg girls here???” anytime they walked into like any class. Some profs too.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 01:53
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gonewild and associate subs have been showing lots lots of admiration and body positivity for amateur posters.
However, eventually all those subs turned into an onlyfans advertising platform, so maybe then the mood got spoiled.
Previously it was unpaid art for unpaid audience, and was almost unbelievably wholesome.
IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 00:11
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Capitalism doing the thing.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jan 15:28
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To me seems like individual humans decided that they want something in return for their nudity. Nobody forced them into that decision.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:51
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Try going to an “AI” conference as a woman sometime.
Grift and misogyny go hand-in-hand.
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
on 05 Jan 20:30
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Thats because everyone at an AI conference is going to be managment or sales.
E.G. Salesforce has Two conferences every year. The dev one and the sales one. The dev one deals with legitimate development of Salesforce and new tooling. The sales one pushes AI on the unwitting.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 Jan 22:07
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just checked out her channel. she links to her onlyfans in the about section and her most recent video is titled: “PhD dropout to onlyfans model.” your linked article claims she used the rumor to her advantage, so maybe its just that? but cant confirm since the vid is 18+ on youtube and i dont have an account anymore.
markinov@lemmygrad.ml
on 04 Jan 23:00
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The fake news is fake news apparently. She has a video on her YouTube where she describes the whole thing and it seems true. However, I don’t know what sort of content she does on OnlyFans. She does show the max amount of cleavage possible on YouTube, but I’m not sure if she shows more than that on any other platform. Everything I could find was actual science content, except she is a very attractive lady wearing revealing clothes while telling the story. But I know OnlyFans also does chats for example where pictures don’t need to be exchanged at all, people will pay just to talk to an attractive person. She might also do feet pics, which can be highly valuable to some people.
So it’s implied she sorta dropped out of school to do porn. But it’s nothing like that, she has a couple of degrees already, had a nice side project going with her content creation on multiple platforms including YouTube and didn’t see a future for herself with the path she was on. So she switched to doing content creation fulltime.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 20:29
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*fap* *fap* ibid.ibid.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com
on 04 Jan 21:04
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Seen half a dozen posts like this recently. Always screams misogynistic outrage bait to me.
My partner was in the top 99% 1% of performers on onlyfans for several years (according to onlyfans’ metrics, which actually are surprisingly accurate since it involves reporting financial information). At the peak she was making about $150/month. It really drove home that the number of people who actually make any substantial amount of money on any platform like this is shockingly low.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
on 05 Jan 01:44
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Sigh… No, I actually meant to write 99th percentile. Which is also wrong, and is entirely symptomatic of me being ‘an idiot’. (Ty for pointing this out)
Yeah exactly, the person that can actually make $1 million on the platform is rare, and often artificial (companies tweak the algorithm to make some users extra successful for these kinds of headlines and promotions). They’re just marketing and luring talent.
HessiaNerd@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 08:11
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secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
on 04 Jan 22:19
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I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it
In some ways I understand it though. I'm sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.
Plus, if she's going for her PhD she probably already has her master's degree so it's not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.
That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What's it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 23:03
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Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?
If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.
And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 23:05
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Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual
I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the graduate degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.
PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.
I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 03:37
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😢😔
Croquette@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 02:57
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Not only that, but all the political game involved in the academia is mental.
When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 23:56
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InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 19:07
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Wdym?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 20:00
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Google is really shady. So whenever we use the share button on YouTube, they add a code to the end of the link that offers no benefit to us, but allows Google to tie your machine as source who shared the link that others click on. When you look at the link that you posted, you’ll see the letters SI in it and after that, you see the tracker.
To work around this, on desktop, you can copy the link from the address bar, which won’t include the code. Also, Firefox has a feature to copy links without trackers in them, because the practice is pervasive. On mobile, I would recommend just backspacing the junk in hopes of protecting your privacy a tiny bit.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 23:59
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I see. I didn’t realize that I had sent a link with trackers. Thanks for pointing it out!
brbposting@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jan 00:36
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Didn’t realize by design 🤓
Welcome welcome!
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Jan 23:20
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With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.
How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?
spacesatan@leminal.space
on 05 Jan 00:18
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They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.
IMongoose@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 00:35
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We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.
The thing you may be forgetting to account for is inflation. 50k a year means your drawing the whole profit annually and in 10 or 20 years suddenly 50k is not enough to live on. You need enough in the fund to ensure it’s making more money than you spend so it can grow YoY and make more each year to cover inflation.
Additionally, if you are not working you are paying 100% out of pocket for insurance. One health incident draws your savings below the amount you need to live off of.
Right now they say not to retire at 60 unless you fully own your property and have over a million in your 401k. And that’s accounting for taking a loss to your social security payments past 67 due to early withdrawal and for out of pocket health insurance costs. If you are younger you need even more.
Insurance is a non issue for me, I used 50k USD as an example because it’s pretty close to what I make in CAD.
With 50k I can pay my mortgage and be mortgage free in less than 20 years then I need way less than 50k to live, that’s also something people don’t take into consideration, once you’ve paid you’re debts and you just have to pay for food and taxes you’re left with way more than you’re used to. That’s not even taking into consideration the fact that you pay less taxes on capital gain in a lot of countries, so 50k in salary =/= 50k in capital gains!
We’re in the process of buying a house based on my income alone, we’ll probably have refunded the 250k loan in 15 years tops, probably 12, then we start stacking to retire ASAP.
vonbaronhans@midwest.social
on 04 Jan 23:58
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Buffet cities? Every city I know has at least one buffet.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 01:05
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You can always get that degree later when your income slows down. You’ll have more total money if you dedicate yourself full-time to the money-making endeavour.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:49
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Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
on 04 Jan 23:04
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Good call. I left science after my PhD 20 or so years ago. I make more than many of the scientists that I manage. Science is a long, hard path that doesn’t pay well for probably 99% of PhDs.
I owe my financial security to that decision all those years ago.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 02:13
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I worked as a technical writer many years ago and we had two physics PhDs working in the same job. They both had pursued academic careers for years before dropping out and taking a job that actually pays the bills.
Etterra@discuss.online
on 05 Jan 00:06
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Translation: I threw away my ethics in favor of getting rich.
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 03:41
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I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?
Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.
Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.
No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.
This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.
Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?
Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.
Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.
Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you don’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 04:28
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The other thing that’s probably hard to kick is a life of leisure and the money to buy whatever you want by staying home with a camera instead of sweating through a PhD program.
Yeah, had I the potential to do the same, I’d grab the chance in a heartbeat. It’s both much more lucrative as well as comfortable, allowing working from home or in midst of traveling, or whatever. The flexibility alone would be enough to convince me. Assuming they have the audience already and not just jumping in cold.
They’ll probably make at least tenfold the money I’ll be making in my entire lifetime, in a couple of years. Certainly more than academics would.
People here worried about the long term? As if getting a phd and working in academics would ever bring them the money they’ll likely make in a couple of years. If anything, this is the move to make if one is concerned about the long term, especially financially. They’ll be able to retire, probably very early, unlike your average academic.
Anyone making this very choice, I.e being smart enough for a phd but choosing something else, will have thought about the future and all that comes with it. With sensible investing and whatever, they’ll probably be sailing towards a very comfortable life.
Why would anyone think choosing the phd would be the more long-term sensible choice? Academics is the same as being a nurse or a teacher: it’s a passion choice. Not a smart choice. Not everything has to be smart either. But it’s certainly going to be so much more future-proof in general.
She probably won’t be able, like most athletes, to do this until regular retirement age. So why not make the most of it now. She can always go back into research if she felt like it after she can retire for life.
OnlyFans is suspicious af considering it’s not blocked in US states with porn bans. Some weird small group of people did a lot of hard work to effectively create a monopoly over porn in some U.S. states, users and creators should beware. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these onlyfans contents are marketing pieces.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 06:51
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It’s not suspicious really. They apparently don’t operate in Florida due to those ID laws. It’s more so just that the states have targeted PornHub specifically for their bans to start with and since PH is owned by a conglomerate of sites similar to them, it’s affected many of those sites. Smaller sites remain unaffected often times.
JackbyDev@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 16:23
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As far as I understand it, the “porn bans” are actually laws that force strict ID requirements, not literally banning porn. (I’m not trying to debate whether they’re effectively porn bans, I’d agree they are.) So sites that are paid access only probably have an easier time proving they don’t let minors in.
Right, shifting the younger populations to the past of least resistance, and helping them form parasocial relationships which may be hard to break. Getting them while they’re young, so to speak.
Except you need to be over 18, and it’s easy to verify this if you’re paying with a credit card.
Besides, what teenager can’t figure out how to use a vpn?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 03:42
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What a sad waste of expensive education.
Why do people in academics want to pursue big money in the first place? Misplaced priorities.
Vorticity@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 03:57
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As an academic, if I could make $1M/year by showing my body on OF, I would quit my job in a heartbeat. I would make my money while I can and reassess when no one is interested anymore.
Once I’d made my money, maybe I could use my academic expertise to effect some real change in the world. I’d certainly be more capable of making an impact if I were independently wealthy.
Okay thanks for sharing with the world that you’re greedy and arrogant.
Why not just finish your degree and then model? If you’re already in a program that means you’ve completed all of the prerequisite education so it’s only whatever remains of the 3 years the program takes to finish, 4 maximum. You’re not going to age out of modelling in 2 years time.
Let’s be completely honest, if you dropped out in the middle of your PhD study to go earn money, you’re probably never going back.
Our system promotes greed, in fact it operates purely on optimizing for greed.
Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
on 05 Jan 04:50
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Capitalism is a wealth based caste system, but kids aren’t taught that in school so many don’t connect the dots until they are in college.
If we don’t want people to value wealth above everything else maybe we shouldn’t have a system that also prioritizes profits above people, the planet, science and everything else.
Secondly, unregulated Capitalism devolves into a caste system as a result of weakness of the democratic state’s ability to self govern.
If a nation state has the complete authority over all labor and markets it likely isn’t a very free nation, and all authoritarian nations also devolve into castes almost immediately with no recourse to push back.
If a nation state does not have complete authority then it will organically develop markets and therefor is a capitalism, anyways.
Even full state authority does not eliminate markets, it simply changes the participation. A lot of internet Communists get this wrong. Marx is pretty clear that the state only withers away when there is no more material scarcity. Unfortunately, instead of actually working towards that endpoint, we are stuck endlessly relitigating whether or not implementing a brutal dictatorship is a good way to liberate workers.
FinnFooted@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 07:45
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There are non capitalistic economic systems that are also don’t require state ownership and are non authoritarian. Literally just incentivizing worker owned coops is an example of how you can drastically shift the economic system without changing the political system. Markets =/= capitalism. The ability to hoard capital and thus power through private ownership is capitalism. I’m not saying that what i described is the perfect system, it’s just an example of something possible outside of your argument.
Lol, no, there aren’t any such systems currently in existence. No where on earth does that.
Worker owned coops have to compete with privately companies unless private companies are outlawed, but in that example the state is expressing absolute authority over how businesses are structured. If the state gives them the freedom, then capitalistic business structures such as privately owned businesses or publicly traded business with vastly disproportionate ownership shares will form.
Without the state, use of force secures land claims, and corporations would be more than happy to release the hounds on the rest of us.
A democratic state is a collection of people, mostly workers, that forces the distribution of wealth and ideally equal rights in a court of law and protection of public lands.
You just described capitalism, with a fully privatized state. Much like the system in the US…
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:55
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the complete authority over all labor and markets it likely isn’t a very free nation, and all authoritarian nations also devolve into castes almost immediately with no recourse to push back.
Yes, that’s an ok description of current reality under capitalism.
On one hand: work long hours with little to no recognition, put up with the bullshit politics of academia, constantly worrying about job security due to grant-based funding, and all while struggling to make ends meet.
On the other hand: don’t struggle to make ends meet, deal with a lot less bullshit, job security.
I’d ask you how you don’t understand, but you thought someone else bringing up capitalism was unrelated, so it’s obviously a sad waste of my expensive fucks-to-give to try to educate you. Misplaced priorities? Sounds more like you have no clue what you are talking about.
It’s not that hard. Just go to any Fidelity, Charles Schwab, etc. and pay for a professionally managed account. They charge 1-1.5% or so on your balance for the year so it’s in their best interest to make you as much money as possible so they get paid.
Ya? It’s that easy to just get into a phd program huh?
She dropped out of her doctorate. She’s going to have to explain why she dropped out if she wants any chance to get back in and that is already pretty low after dropping out.
Dropping out is dropping out. The reason doesn’t matter in that context.
friendlymessage@feddit.org
on 05 Jan 09:05
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She already made a million. Give her two more years and she’ll make more than an average scientist in their whole career. Then she can still get a PhD.
Antiproton@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 09:11
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But she won’t. She’ll waste her money and end up with nothing.
friendlymessage@feddit.org
on 05 Jan 09:31
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Interesting. Didn’t know you knew her so well. Are you her best friend? Close family? Or how do you get so much insight into her psyche?
As long as she’s careful with it, she’ll be fine. A lot of people who have sudden income windfalls don’t know how to be smart with it and end up losing everything, but as she’s pursued higher education, she’s a lot more likely to be financially literate than someone who regularly plays the lottery.
If she invests wisely, she could be set for life.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:46
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Under capitalism everybody’s gotta horde money while their bodies can still serve.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 05:48
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Whenever i see the jokes about randoms dropping out of thier jobs to join only fans, i just think of Randy from South Park trying to start only fans
Selling your body to any man with money does not seem easy at all to me. Or do you think all women in prostitutuon, and men for that matter, are there because they like it?
Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml
on 05 Jan 14:01
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Many men, in the same age range, could also make a quick buck off OnlyFans.
You just have to be comfortable with the idea that it’s still going to be mostly men jacking off to pictures of your butthole.
JackbyDev@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 16:06
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Easy gig compared to what? Certainly there are more difficult jobs, but I’d hardly think it’s easy. This feels like the same mentality as people who say it’s easy to be a streamer, or the way people would say it’s easy to be a YouTuber a decade ago. I think there is a lot more work that goes into it than you suspect.
Especially if you’re saying it’s “for women only” implying it’s just male gaze propping them up. If you really believe that, wouldn’t that make it more difficult? Wouldn’t that imply women only have a few years to make money while they’re in their “prime”? Wouldn’t that imply they need to have a strict diet and workout routine to maintain their figure?
Easy gig compared to anything & there’s no “male gaze” it’s simple gender dynamics
JackbyDev@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 19:28
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I think it’s more work than you’d think. Plus, much like people pursuing other forms of content creation, there are a few people making a ton of money and a whole lot making little to nothing.
Also, what do you mean by “simple gender dynamics”?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:44
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It’s for men too but apparently you’re too lazy for an “easy gig”.
Well yeah, that’s like the whole point of prostitution.
UnityDevice@startrek.website
on 05 Jan 10:01
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I googled this story to, uh, fact check it, and found this article saying that her move to OF is fake news. Except, upon closer examination, it seems the article is AI slop and completely made up. How ironic.
JackbyDev@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 15:58
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So I’m reading this debunking, and
Zara smartly leveraged the viral moment to confront the misinformation head-on and promote her YouTube channel, where her actual content lies.
Most recent video is youtu.be/_uEG0H4RXcA where she says she is making an OnlyFans (I’m not going to watch the full 10 minutes so unless this is an elaborate prank that’s revealed in the end…)
Go to ZaraDarz.com which is listed as her website on her YouTube channel
If you are a sapiosexual, this page is for you 😉 (Please click “more info” below 🥹)
Texas-born and bred, engineer, Ph.D. dropout, and YouTuber. I’m a nerd with a passion for art, fitness, and reading.
On this page, I share with you my artistically and beautifully curated exclusive content which includes a level of nudity and my love for erotica 📸. I love pushing my boundaries with you 😉.
Also this Instagram page links to her website (the one mentioned on her YouTube) and is from at least as far back as December 2022 www.instagram.com/zara.darz/ which also mentions she is a 🌶️ Content Creator and links to an exclusive invite only Instagram page.
And I’m just rereading your comment and seeing that you said the debunk article is AI slop, I thought you were saying that article called others AI slop lmao.
Well, if anyone else misreads it they can also see this too now lol.
I watched the video and it is very convincing and honestly true on many levels. If you can earn much better money from being your own boss then why would you want to spend time with those assholes at work for less?
I am doing it myself just not as successful and not porn because I like privacy.
There is something strange about her and this whole thing though. I can’t help to think it’s all some kind of stunt or AI person idk. Something is uncanny. Maybe it is just the autism that radiates from her that throws me off and looks like AI.
We live in the times when it is increasingly hard to tell what is real. And also honestly if she was compsci phd and machine learning expert at this level 1 million is nothing vs what potentially she could make right now with that background and shrewd. There’s so much money in this right now, you just don’t drop to do porn when we have second internet revolution for better or worse. Something doesn’t add up.
I suspect it’s AI generated too. Look at her right shoulder after around the 30 second mark: youtube.com/shorts/Cks_9h9Nx_Q, it’s all jittery. Quite a cunning plan if that is the case though; carefully crafting a PhD persona and doing instructional videos for a year so men slowly fall in love, and then go full-bore on explicit content.
I think it may be the case of AI augmentation techniques. I do not think the whole person is artificial outright. The older the video the more clear it should be.
What can we tell is 100% real is onlyfans money and someone actually being in front of the camera.
Kinda makes you want to try to pull off something like this doesn’t it? Whether it is the case or not it really looks like an exciting way to make some money on the side.
I do not have such problems 😂 but I appreciate generally that there are way more people who are concerned with such things. Makes society possible probably. Let’s hope it never changes.
However any perceived issues with lying about identity cannot be raised in the context of online porn. The lie is the key to the entertainment. End result is what matters with onlyfans. There is no deception where there wasn’t any truth from the beginning. Porn is deception. When someone treats it as real they become disordered and not aligned to the real world.
Not to mention the family friendly YouTubers being very distant from the definition of “real”. You didn’t think they all present their real selves in front of the camera? Showbiz is all smoke and mirrors. There was never any real identity there.
However yes this is probably the most wrong account you would want to have parasocial relationship with. Not that there are any right.
If I had to guess, I’d say her OF gig is far from a full time job. So she still has time to spare to work on what she enjoys, and the capital to start an actual business down the road.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 14:21
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CapITAlisM iS thE BeST sysTEm wE HAve! SOCialIsM doeSNt woRK!
I hope she manages to set up an irrevocable trust that guarantees steady income for the rest of her life so someday she can quit sex work and just pursue art or something if she wants
Hell, maybe it’ll turn out that sex work is her art and that is ok too
But my Puritan beliefs are more important than her well being!!!
/s
Soulg@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 16:17
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Good for her but I can’t help but feel envious that paths and choices like this are basically exclusively only available to the opposite sex
ramirezmike@programming.dev
on 05 Jan 17:19
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you could argue that men have similar exclusive, lucrative paths that use their strength/athleticism and are also probably statistically similar rates of exclusivity within their sex. Like, not everyone will be a professional footballer just like not every onlyfans model makes livable income.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 17:52
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Not to mention, it’s definitely possible for men to have successful careers in sex work. I expect there are far fewer successful men in sex work, and they probably need to be ok with having a mostly male clientele. But it’s still possible.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Jan 21:31
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The mean earnings for OF is $150/month. Meaning it’s likely there’s a vast majority of people earning $50-100/month, and a vast minority earning $100k/month.
With props, camera, lighting, editing “costuming” etc, you probably lose money doing it.
it isn’t. there’s a lot of male OF models too, although their fans are probably mostly gay men. good news is, unlike performers from before online videos took off, you don’t really have to be “gay for pay”. OF models can get away with doing solo work as well.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 05 Jan 23:02
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Sex work is performance art.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Jan 16:42
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Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.
There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 18:40
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I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.
OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
on 05 Jan 20:49
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The problem with sex work under capitalism isn’t the worker, but the capitalism.
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 00:11
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Minus the “sex” part of “sex work under capitalism”
OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
on 06 Jan 02:55
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Sex work is real work. When we sufficiently progress as a species the concept itself will become incomprehensible because survival sex will become incomprehensible.
OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
on 06 Jan 02:52
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^
brucethemoose@lemmy.world
on 05 Jan 20:58
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This is… so inefficient.
She could have become an engineer (or whatever she wants), made videos about it, and made a big difference in many people’s lives, and had whatever personal life she wanted. Instead, she’s producing ‘entertainment’ that’s been replicated a bajillion times.
I an happy for her personally, but this is such a loss to society and a huge ding against the education/work pipeline. I assume she would’ve rather gone into her chosen field if it wasn’t such a miserable grind. If it isn’t ‘worth the hardship’ for someone so brilliant, hardworking, charismatic, and everything to go into STEM, then the system she’s in is completely busted.
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 00:10
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If it’s such a loss to society, perhaps something should be done about society’s economic structure and how it partitions rewards. Rather than throwing shade on someone for making an economically advantageous decision.
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
on 06 Jan 01:54
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Especially with that attitude
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 00:03
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TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 00:48
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Complete the damn degree and then do what you want. At least your have a document to help you if the shit hits the fan.
Chekhovs_Gun@lemmy.world
on 06 Jan 04:12
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That’s her only fan too
BurnedDonutHole@ani.social
on 06 Jan 05:47
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She can do whatever she wants with that kind of money in the bank. Continuing her degree later wouldn’t be a problem.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
on 06 Jan 07:13
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I might do this to get out of being a software developer, tbh,
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This is actually sad to see.
“An advocate of women in science until recently” makes you think what really are their priorities.
??? everyone’s priority is money. obviously. how is this a shock?
Why do people become teachers in the US? Certainly isn’t “for the money”.
Most of the time, folks who become teachers don’t have a million dollar career as an alternative.
I’m just giving a basic example of people being motivated outside of money. There are other lines of work that are easier or pay better or both.
Money makes things possible, people will do things they love for the passion of it, but without enough money it isn’t feasible. It’s capitalism, folks
Have you never heard of scientists or artists? Lots of people prioritize passion over money.
I know many many artists, and none of them would resist an offer to do what they’re passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or to do what they’re not very passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or even something they downright hate doing, in exchange for lots of money. Having lots of money means you can invest in those things you are passionate about.
And yet, lots of people choose not to do what they hate for money. Obviously, if you can get paid well for doing what you love is a win-win, but the point of my argument is that a lot of people don’t really care about money, beyond having enough to get by.
that’s crazy. Have yet to see this in reality.
Hi. Plenty of people go for “enough to pay the bills (but contributing to society/enjoyable)” over “the most I could make,” myself included
I looked more into that.
She did an interview in which she said that she did not like the academia Life but wants to focus on her social media career, which includes of, but also a YouTube channel where she published science related videos
So still doing science stuff, but not pursuing a PhD anymore.
academia is toxic for everyone, but especially for women, and especially in STEM
The stories my female doctor friend tells me about treatment from male colleagues or female superiors is freaking rage-inducing. But 99% of the time she can’t do shit about it because she’ll be ostracized or risk her job, or in the past risk residency or placements. It suuuucks.
6 downvotes from people going “not from me, I treat bitches nicely”.
/r/niceguys poster boys who got banned from reddit
That one impotent downvote you’ve gotten really underscores your point…
I hope my daughter gets to look up to women established in STEM fields.
Seems like a busted world where there’s more money in sex work than academia.
It’s just one woman. She doesn’t represent whatever “they” you are refering to because there are a lot more women who don’t take this path.
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I hope she’s saving for retirement. How does she expect to make money when she gets older and the OnlyFans crowd no longer wants to masturbate to her videos?
Bro what
OnlyFans has a reputation for people exploiting their looks. OnlyFans users have a reputation for judging people based on their looks. As you may have noticed, people tend to be judged as less attractive as they get older.
I’m not endorsing that system, I’m just evaluating it based on how people act.
So does the NFL. Are you making sure NFL players are saving for retirement, too?
If one posted here, I sure would! It’s a shame when people who have usually been exploited most of their lives are allowed to go bankrupt.
You think a woman choosing to enter sex work is being exploited? OF and the NFL can be exploitative platforms, but because they are corporations, not because someone on the internet forgot to save the people taking part in those enterprises
Actually, I was talking about athletes who are fed lies, sometimes since high school. Sorry I didn’t specify.
Shannon Sharpe is!
obviously like any sporting personality who gets too old for sport you coach the next generation of only fans contenders, and manage their social media presence, marketing etc. all for a small % of their takings.
Nobody sees a sports athlete get a million dollar contract and says “I hope this guy is saving for retirement. How does he expect to make money when he can’t pitch fastballs at 100 mph?” Why does this comment only happen to women being models?
It’s actually discussed a lot in sports. There are many stories of athletes who earned millions and were broke just a couple of years after retirement because they didn’t have the right people around to help them prepare.
I’m a basketball fan, so here’s an example: fadeawayworld.net/20-nba-players-who-went-broke-a…
I have a theory about that that I’ll now subject lemmy to! Professional sportsers are often heavily managed from a very young age (practice schedules, diet monitoring, weightlifting regime, traveling). Even in college they often have to sign up for special versions of classes to fit with their schedules (on top of the diet/exercise/practice/travel) making fewer of their own day to day decisions than their peers. When they leave the sport they don’t have all these other people dictating their lives anymore but they haven’t had enough experience living on their own or room to make certain mistakes they would have learned from if they’d been in charge of more of their time and decisions.
I’ve actually found that college athletes (the ones I get to teach) are much better prepared (for “adulting”) than their peers at graduation. They have much better time management skills and tend to manage and navigate group dynamics better. I think some of what you are saying heavily depends on the sport or perhaps athletic level. I’m not teaching anyone near going pro, they just like their sport and enjoyed the scholarship.
Yeah, that’s cause there is a big difference between someone who is going to college and also playing sports vs someone at college to play sports.
If your a student athlete that is never going pro, then you need good time management, keep up grades, etc. If your someone going pro things are a lot different.
From what I’ve heard, you’re right. While athletes are pulling in money for the people upstairs, people take care of them. Once they retire, they become worthless to management/ownership, so they’re thrown to the wolves. With no money management skills of their own, a lot of them go broke.
I’m going to make a generalization and say that someone in a PhD program (any PhD program) is more practical and better at handling financial planning than 95% of all professional athletes.
Yeah recently heard a sports announcer saying that it was amazing that a 31-year-old was playing at the level that they were.
I was like, bro, he's 31. What the fuck.
I guess I’m weird, then, because I think that - especially regarding Olympic athletes in sports that don’t have much of a following.
i just repeated what others below said better
a ton of famous athletes go broke after retiring because they are retired at like 35 or 40 with an unsustainable lifestyle. So many bad car dealerships and bad restruarants are retired pro athletes trying to maintain a lifestyle that they should have avoided while destroying their body for cash.She can always go back to STEM later. OnlyFans is not necessarily the end of a career.
I hope that’s what she does. She was intelligent and hardworking enough to get into the program in the first place, so that’s good.
She didn’t stop being intelligent when she started doing only fans.
Of course she didn’t.
That depends on whether or not people find her only fans.
If she’s not a complete idiot, she probably already has more retirement savings than the average gen-xer. Assuming the pyramid scheme that is our stock market keeps growing, she might have already saved all she needs to. If the bubble collapses, she will just be living in a mad max apocalypse with the rest of us.
Lol having a PhD doesn’t get you a pension. She’ll make more from OF than she’d ever make by staying in academia.
So much this. PhD just means you are earning significantly less than your peers for at least six years, and then if you stay in academia, it’s less your whole life. There are some nice perks though, but for purely monetary reasons, you do not go for a PhD.
Yeah basically the only PhD that pays is AI research if it can get you a job at OpenAI.
But better hurry before we move on to the next fad!
Or OpenAI assassinates you for revealing that all the data it’s being trained on is copyrighted and that it’s a bubble built on a house of cards.
You say that like she was going to make a fortune in academia.
She’s dropped out of a doctorate which means she likely already has more qualifications than you and I combined.
There’s a difference between making a fortune and just having a steady pay check.
The issue is when she is old and used up the income dries up completely.
So whatever “fortune” she makes from this better carry her for the rest of her life because that tap WILL dry out.
Or, you know she could get another job and build a retirement fund through that.
I guess but who is going to hire someone that’s been out of work for years?
Trying to explain to some hiring manager that you took several years off to show your genitals online is a pretty bad place to be.
Downvoted for blatant misogyny
She probably gets treated more respectfully by her OnlyFans viewers than her co-workers in her PhD program.
Have you never seen the insanity that is reddit's porn section?
And thats how "respectful" they act when they're Not paying for it.
Some of the comments you see on posts of young women announcing they’re “barely legal” and in the comments you’ve got >45 year old men saying what they’ll do.
It’s just so creepy and unsettling.
Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
45 year old men making gross propositions is not at all unusual. And often those are the people deciding whether you have a professional future.
I can’t say that I have and my comment was in no way meant to that it doesn’t happen to them.
That’s what we invented cancel-culture for, isn’t it?
That doesn’t apply when you’re a PhD student and your supervisor is the tenured department head. You can try blowing everything up to pursue a sexual harassment case but that’s gonna be the end of your PhD.
Just STEM in general. My wife almost left her engineering program because harassment came from the male students as well as the male professors. The handful of women in my engineering school all hung out together and moved as one. Strength in numbers and all that. It was really shit for them. Dudes would just yell “omg girls here???” anytime they walked into like any class. Some profs too.
gonewild and associate subs have been showing lots lots of admiration and body positivity for amateur posters.
However, eventually all those subs turned into an onlyfans advertising platform, so maybe then the mood got spoiled.
Previously it was unpaid art for unpaid audience, and was almost unbelievably wholesome.
Capitalism doing the thing.
To me seems like individual humans decided that they want something in return for their nudity. Nobody forced them into that decision.
Try going to an “AI” conference as a woman sometime.
Grift and misogyny go hand-in-hand.
Thats because everyone at an AI conference is going to be managment or sales.
E.G. Salesforce has Two conferences every year. The dev one and the sales one. The dev one deals with legitimate development of Salesforce and new tooling. The sales one pushes AI on the unwitting.
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Apparently this is fake news
just checked out her channel. she links to her onlyfans in the about section and her most recent video is titled: “PhD dropout to onlyfans model.” your linked article claims she used the rumor to her advantage, so maybe its just that? but cant confirm since the vid is 18+ on youtube and i dont have an account anymore.
Her yt links to her OF acc
The fake news is fake news apparently. She has a video on her YouTube where she describes the whole thing and it seems true. However, I don’t know what sort of content she does on OnlyFans. She does show the max amount of cleavage possible on YouTube, but I’m not sure if she shows more than that on any other platform. Everything I could find was actual science content, except she is a very attractive lady wearing revealing clothes while telling the story. But I know OnlyFans also does chats for example where pictures don’t need to be exchanged at all, people will pay just to talk to an attractive person. She might also do feet pics, which can be highly valuable to some people.
So it’s implied she sorta dropped out of school to do porn. But it’s nothing like that, she has a couple of degrees already, had a nice side project going with her content creation on multiple platforms including YouTube and didn’t see a future for herself with the path she was on. So she switched to doing content creation fulltime.
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Seen half a dozen posts like this recently. Always screams misogynistic outrage bait to me.
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Yeah, the money those few lucky ones make is chicken shit compared to what the platform owner makes.
Seize the means of porn production!
The owner is a billionaire, so literally 1000x as much as her.
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99%1% of performers on onlyfans for several years (according to onlyfans’ metrics, which actually are surprisingly accurate since it involves reporting financial information). At the peak she was making about $150/month. It really drove home that the number of people who actually make any substantial amount of money on any platform like this is shockingly low.You probably meant top 1%.
Sigh… No, I actually meant to write 99th percentile. Which is also wrong, and is entirely symptomatic of me being ‘an idiot’. (Ty for pointing this out)
Yeah exactly, the person that can actually make $1 million on the platform is rare, and often artificial (companies tweak the algorithm to make some users extra successful for these kinds of headlines and promotions). They’re just marketing and luring talent.
Especially since it isn’t true.
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I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it
In some ways I understand it though. I'm sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.
Plus, if she's going for her PhD she probably already has her master's degree so it's not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.
That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What's it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?
Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?
If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.
This. I dropped out of my computer science PhD to start at the bottom of the industry in my early thirties.
If you don’t have a clear love of academia, a PhD is a clearly unrewarding slog.
And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.
A science PhD is fucking grueling.
As someone who didnt even pass their first year and dropped out, mind explaining whats involved in a PHD and why science ones are so grueling?
It’s basically just working for 6 years for not much pay while your friends who got jobs right out of undergrad are making at 3-5x as much.
But having the PHD makes up for it after right?
That’s what they say but I haven’t finished mine yet so I can only hope
It really depends on the field. In some areas PhDs make less than bachelors.
Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual
I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the graduate degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.
PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.
I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.
😢😔
Not only that, but all the political game involved in the academia is mental.
And the work-life balance is atrocious.
When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching
Me earlier in the thread
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Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson helped me feel like a jock in Calculus.
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That is one of the funniest things I have seen in a very long time!
“Do I look like Feynman” is my favorite bit. Starting and ending with “fucking Bessel functions” is also very poetic.
Now I’m reading about Bessel functions on my weekend… how dare you.
the video is spherical Bessel functions
Simple man me detrackers then clicks 🤗
Wdym?
Google is really shady. So whenever we use the share button on YouTube, they add a code to the end of the link that offers no benefit to us, but allows Google to tie your machine as source who shared the link that others click on. When you look at the link that you posted, you’ll see the letters SI in it and after that, you see the tracker.
To work around this, on desktop, you can copy the link from the address bar, which won’t include the code. Also, Firefox has a feature to copy links without trackers in them, because the practice is pervasive. On mobile, I would recommend just backspacing the junk in hopes of protecting your privacy a tiny bit.
I see. I didn’t realize that I had sent a link with trackers. Thanks for pointing it out!
Didn’t realize by design 🤓
Welcome welcome!
With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.
Give me 1m and I’m retiring tomorrow.
How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?
They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.
We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.
50k us is about what I make now and I’m in the suburbs.
Invested safely that’s what I would make with 1m, with 2m I’m having the time of my life.
I could have lived off that at any age as I’m currently making the most I’ve ever made by about 6k compared to my previous job…
The thing you may be forgetting to account for is inflation. 50k a year means your drawing the whole profit annually and in 10 or 20 years suddenly 50k is not enough to live on. You need enough in the fund to ensure it’s making more money than you spend so it can grow YoY and make more each year to cover inflation.
Additionally, if you are not working you are paying 100% out of pocket for insurance. One health incident draws your savings below the amount you need to live off of.
Right now they say not to retire at 60 unless you fully own your property and have over a million in your 401k. And that’s accounting for taking a loss to your social security payments past 67 due to early withdrawal and for out of pocket health insurance costs. If you are younger you need even more.
Insurance is a non issue for me, I used 50k USD as an example because it’s pretty close to what I make in CAD.
With 50k I can pay my mortgage and be mortgage free in less than 20 years then I need way less than 50k to live, that’s also something people don’t take into consideration, once you’ve paid you’re debts and you just have to pay for food and taxes you’re left with way more than you’re used to. That’s not even taking into consideration the fact that you pay less taxes on capital gain in a lot of countries, so 50k in salary =/= 50k in capital gains!
We’re in the process of buying a house based on my income alone, we’ll probably have refunded the 250k loan in 15 years tops, probably 12, then we start stacking to retire ASAP.
Buffet cities? Every city I know has at least one buffet.
Bigger, swipe typing does that sometimes 🤪
Cicis pizza cities only
They drop out so they can do the other thing full time instead of part time…
Especially because it’s porn. Gotta make as much money now while she can
Yeah, can always go back to school when you age out at 25…
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I know right? Imagine how much more a doctor could charge for sexy pics.
You can always get that degree later when your income slows down. You’ll have more total money if you dedicate yourself full-time to the money-making endeavour.
True, I didn’t think of that
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Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.
Good call. I left science after my PhD 20 or so years ago. I make more than many of the scientists that I manage. Science is a long, hard path that doesn’t pay well for probably 99% of PhDs.
I owe my financial security to that decision all those years ago.
I worked as a technical writer many years ago and we had two physics PhDs working in the same job. They both had pursued academic careers for years before dropping out and taking a job that actually pays the bills.
Translation: I threw away my ethics in favor of getting rich.
Are you implying that creating porn is unethical?
Sure sounds like it. 1950s ass take.
When the majority of them hide their face it makes you wonder huh?
It makes me wonder what kind of horrible things they’ve experienced from men.
As opposed to… checks notes … the rest of the world?
Are you implying that there are ethical ways to get rich?
Good for her! I’m sure it’s not easy to achieve that kind of success on OnlyFans, so clearly she made some smart moves to get where she is.
/s?
I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?
Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.
I’m sure “working hard” is way more important than being attractive on a platform where people pay to watch attractive women naked. Oh, wait…
Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.
No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.
This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.
Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?
Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.
Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.
Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you don’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.
For someone who doesn’t have anything to discuss, you do have an awful lot to say and keep repeating. Suit yourself.
I do have something to discuss. If you prefer to ignore my point then what can I say. Suit yourself.
Being attractive is a prerequisite, but not enough. There’s a lot of attractive women, not all of them make 1 mio. on OF.
No, no sarcasm. The vast majority of OnlyFans creators barely make any money. This woman did something smart to achieve success.
‘Attention’ is an extremely hard habit to kick
The other thing that’s probably hard to kick is a life of leisure and the money to buy whatever you want by staying home with a camera instead of sweating through a PhD program.
Yeah, had I the potential to do the same, I’d grab the chance in a heartbeat. It’s both much more lucrative as well as comfortable, allowing working from home or in midst of traveling, or whatever. The flexibility alone would be enough to convince me. Assuming they have the audience already and not just jumping in cold.
They’ll probably make at least tenfold the money I’ll be making in my entire lifetime, in a couple of years. Certainly more than academics would.
People here worried about the long term? As if getting a phd and working in academics would ever bring them the money they’ll likely make in a couple of years. If anything, this is the move to make if one is concerned about the long term, especially financially. They’ll be able to retire, probably very early, unlike your average academic.
Anyone making this very choice, I.e being smart enough for a phd but choosing something else, will have thought about the future and all that comes with it. With sensible investing and whatever, they’ll probably be sailing towards a very comfortable life.
Why would anyone think choosing the phd would be the more long-term sensible choice? Academics is the same as being a nurse or a teacher: it’s a passion choice. Not a smart choice. Not everything has to be smart either. But it’s certainly going to be so much more future-proof in general.
She probably won’t be able, like most athletes, to do this until regular retirement age. So why not make the most of it now. She can always go back into research if she felt like it after she can retire for life.
OnlyFans is suspicious af considering it’s not blocked in US states with porn bans. Some weird small group of people did a lot of hard work to effectively create a monopoly over porn in some U.S. states, users and creators should beware. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these onlyfans contents are marketing pieces.
It’s not suspicious really. They apparently don’t operate in Florida due to those ID laws. It’s more so just that the states have targeted PornHub specifically for their bans to start with and since PH is owned by a conglomerate of sites similar to them, it’s affected many of those sites. Smaller sites remain unaffected often times.
As far as I understand it, the “porn bans” are actually laws that force strict ID requirements, not literally banning porn. (I’m not trying to debate whether they’re effectively porn bans, I’d agree they are.) So sites that are paid access only probably have an easier time proving they don’t let minors in.
Right, shifting the younger populations to the past of least resistance, and helping them form parasocial relationships which may be hard to break. Getting them while they’re young, so to speak.
Except you need to be over 18, and it’s easy to verify this if you’re paying with a credit card.
Besides, what teenager can’t figure out how to use a vpn?
What a sad waste of expensive education.
Why do people in academics want to pursue big money in the first place? Misplaced priorities.
As an academic, if I could make $1M/year by showing my body on OF, I would quit my job in a heartbeat. I would make my money while I can and reassess when no one is interested anymore.
Once I’d made my money, maybe I could use my academic expertise to effect some real change in the world. I’d certainly be more capable of making an impact if I were independently wealthy.
Okay thanks for sharing with the world that you’re greedy and arrogant.
Why not just finish your degree and then model? If you’re already in a program that means you’ve completed all of the prerequisite education so it’s only whatever remains of the 3 years the program takes to finish, 4 maximum. You’re not going to age out of modelling in 2 years time.
Let’s be completely honest, if you dropped out in the middle of your PhD study to go earn money, you’re probably never going back.
Our system promotes greed, in fact it operates purely on optimizing for greed.
Capitalism is a wealth based caste system, but kids aren’t taught that in school so many don’t connect the dots until they are in college.
If we don’t want people to value wealth above everything else maybe we shouldn’t have a system that also prioritizes profits above people, the planet, science and everything else.
First of all, thats completely off topic.
Secondly, unregulated Capitalism devolves into a caste system as a result of weakness of the democratic state’s ability to self govern.
If a nation state has the complete authority over all labor and markets it likely isn’t a very free nation, and all authoritarian nations also devolve into castes almost immediately with no recourse to push back.
If a nation state does not have complete authority then it will organically develop markets and therefor is a capitalism, anyways.
Even full state authority does not eliminate markets, it simply changes the participation. A lot of internet Communists get this wrong. Marx is pretty clear that the state only withers away when there is no more material scarcity. Unfortunately, instead of actually working towards that endpoint, we are stuck endlessly relitigating whether or not implementing a brutal dictatorship is a good way to liberate workers.
There are non capitalistic economic systems that are also don’t require state ownership and are non authoritarian. Literally just incentivizing worker owned coops is an example of how you can drastically shift the economic system without changing the political system. Markets =/= capitalism. The ability to hoard capital and thus power through private ownership is capitalism. I’m not saying that what i described is the perfect system, it’s just an example of something possible outside of your argument.
Lol, no, there aren’t any such systems currently in existence. No where on earth does that.
Worker owned coops have to compete with privately companies unless private companies are outlawed, but in that example the state is expressing absolute authority over how businesses are structured. If the state gives them the freedom, then capitalistic business structures such as privately owned businesses or publicly traded business with vastly disproportionate ownership shares will form.
Corporations only exist because the state exists…
Lmao
Where does the legal fiction called a “corporation” derived rights from, and existence?
Capitalism cannot exist without a state ensuring the ruling class keeps being able to exploit the working class.
Otherwise, who secures land claims? Or other private property from being taken by the working class?
Without the state, use of force secures land claims, and corporations would be more than happy to release the hounds on the rest of us.
A democratic state is a collection of people, mostly workers, that forces the distribution of wealth and ideally equal rights in a court of law and protection of public lands.
You just described capitalism, with a fully privatized state. Much like the system in the US…
Yes, that’s an ok description of current reality under capitalism.
On one hand: work long hours with little to no recognition, put up with the bullshit politics of academia, constantly worrying about job security due to grant-based funding, and all while struggling to make ends meet.
On the other hand: don’t struggle to make ends meet, deal with a lot less bullshit, job security.
I’d ask you how you don’t understand, but you thought someone else bringing up capitalism was unrelated, so it’s obviously a sad waste of my expensive fucks-to-give to try to educate you. Misplaced priorities? Sounds more like you have no clue what you are talking about.
Hope she makes enough before her looks drop off.
You’re only a young hot piece of ass for so long.
Then what?
Stocks, I guess.
Sounds like a winning business strategy. I can’t see how this could ever go wrong.
Picking shitty stocks would be the place, I guess. I hope she finds a good accountant, bless her.
It’s not that hard. Just go to any Fidelity, Charles Schwab, etc. and pay for a professionally managed account. They charge 1-1.5% or so on your balance for the year so it’s in their best interest to make you as much money as possible so they get paid.
A PHD maybe?
Ya? It’s that easy to just get into a phd program huh?
She dropped out of her doctorate. She’s going to have to explain why she dropped out if she wants any chance to get back in and that is already pretty low after dropping out.
“I dropped out to make money, and now I have money, and now I want to complete my PhD.”
Easy enough explanation.
It doesn’t work that way. You can’t just come back to a phd program after leaving it. It’s not like undergrad.
Yes, you can. I’ve welcomed 3 doctoral program folks back just this past semester.
Did they have an approved leave of absence with a planned return or did they just fall off the side of the planet and then later just show up?
It’s rare to find a school that would entertain such a thing. I doubt that is the case with those people you’re talking about.
Without a leave of absence you’ll likely need to reapply and get new letters of recommendation , etc. Your chances at that point are pretty low.
No, they withdrew, one about a decade ago, and then re-applied.
Its not nearly as hard as you are making it out to be.
Not much different than a new applicant, except we know they know how to be a doctoral program member, and do things like be an intern, or RA.
She didn’t really “drop out”. She left for a much much much better opportunity. That’s a strong sign of intelligence.
Dropping out is dropping out. The reason doesn’t matter in that context.
She already made a million. Give her two more years and she’ll make more than an average scientist in their whole career. Then she can still get a PhD.
But she won’t. She’ll waste her money and end up with nothing.
Interesting. Didn’t know you knew her so well. Are you her best friend? Close family? Or how do you get so much insight into her psyche?
Nostradamus over here, lol! 🔮
What will she be doing 2 months from now? Rolling in the $ while you get mad that someone figured out a way to make an easier living?
As long as she’s careful with it, she’ll be fine. A lot of people who have sudden income windfalls don’t know how to be smart with it and end up losing everything, but as she’s pursued higher education, she’s a lot more likely to be financially literate than someone who regularly plays the lottery.
If she invests wisely, she could be set for life.
Under capitalism everybody’s gotta horde money while their bodies can still serve.
Whenever i see the jokes about randoms dropping out of thier jobs to join only fans, i just think of Randy from South Park trying to start only fans
There’s probably a market for Lorde on OnlyFans.
Ya ya ya feelin’ good on a Wednesday
Maybe her fan base is sapio sexual… still a waste of talent ._. (but I would do the same… one million to fuck on cam? Per year??? Deal!)
Prostitution pays I guess
For women only & it’s an easy gig compared to anything else
Really, an easy gig? I guess you are referring to only fans and not actual prostitution, the latter does not seem easy at all.
Yes it is & I’m tired of pretending it isn’t, you’ll be surprised how much easier it is & OnlyFans also comes under “Actual Prostitution”
Selling your body to any man with money does not seem easy at all to me. Or do you think all women in prostitutuon, and men for that matter, are there because they like it?
Many men, in the same age range, could also make a quick buck off OnlyFans.
You just have to be comfortable with the idea that it’s still going to be mostly men jacking off to pictures of your butthole.
Easy gig compared to what? Certainly there are more difficult jobs, but I’d hardly think it’s easy. This feels like the same mentality as people who say it’s easy to be a streamer, or the way people would say it’s easy to be a YouTuber a decade ago. I think there is a lot more work that goes into it than you suspect.
Especially if you’re saying it’s “for women only” implying it’s just male gaze propping them up. If you really believe that, wouldn’t that make it more difficult? Wouldn’t that imply women only have a few years to make money while they’re in their “prime”? Wouldn’t that imply they need to have a strict diet and workout routine to maintain their figure?
Easy gig compared to anything & there’s no “male gaze” it’s simple gender dynamics
I think it’s more work than you’d think. Plus, much like people pursuing other forms of content creation, there are a few people making a ton of money and a whole lot making little to nothing.
Also, what do you mean by “simple gender dynamics”?
It’s for men too but apparently you’re too lazy for an “easy gig”.
More like you’re too blind to see, there are no easy jobs for men
A man could 100% prostitute or open an only fans. And they’ll have the same type of customers as a woman, and probably be performing the same actions.
So if it’s easy for women it should be easy for men.
Ok then, do it then, what are you waiting for ?
I don’t do it for the same reason that most women don’t do it. Because I don’t want to. And because I prefer to do things I enjoy doing.
If you want that “easy” money just open a grindr account and do some squats so you have a nice ass, my dude, you’ll be golden.
More like “for anyone having sex with men”.
Also safe to say it’s far from easy considering the dangers inherent in it, especially in countries that demonize sex workers.
& yet it’s still easiest thing for women only
I’d tell you to go back to the hole you crawled out of but you probably are the way you are because it abandoned you
Well yeah, that’s like the whole point of prostitution.
I googled this story to, uh, fact check it, and found this article saying that her move to OF is fake news. Except, upon closer examination, it seems the article is AI slop and completely made up. How ironic.
So I’m reading this debunking, and
So I go to her YouTube channel youtube.com/@zara-dar and,
Most recent video is youtu.be/_uEG0H4RXcA where she says she is making an OnlyFans (I’m not going to watch the full 10 minutes so unless this is an elaborate prank that’s revealed in the end…)
Go to ZaraDarz.com which is listed as her website on her YouTube channel
Go to the OnlyFans link onlyfans.com/zaradar/c3
Also this Instagram page links to her website (the one mentioned on her YouTube) and is from at least as far back as December 2022 www.instagram.com/zara.darz/ which also mentions she is a 🌶️ Content Creator and links to an exclusive invite only Instagram page.
And I’m just rereading your comment and seeing that you said the debunk article is AI slop, I thought you were saying that article called others AI slop lmao.
Well, if anyone else misreads it they can also see this too now lol.
I watched the video and it is very convincing and honestly true on many levels. If you can earn much better money from being your own boss then why would you want to spend time with those assholes at work for less?
I am doing it myself just not as successful and not porn because I like privacy.
There is something strange about her and this whole thing though. I can’t help to think it’s all some kind of stunt or AI person idk. Something is uncanny. Maybe it is just the autism that radiates from her that throws me off and looks like AI.
We live in the times when it is increasingly hard to tell what is real. And also honestly if she was compsci phd and machine learning expert at this level 1 million is nothing vs what potentially she could make right now with that background and shrewd. There’s so much money in this right now, you just don’t drop to do porn when we have second internet revolution for better or worse. Something doesn’t add up.
I suspect it’s AI generated too. Look at her right shoulder after around the 30 second mark: youtube.com/shorts/Cks_9h9Nx_Q, it’s all jittery. Quite a cunning plan if that is the case though; carefully crafting a PhD persona and doing instructional videos for a year so men slowly fall in love, and then go full-bore on explicit content.
I think it may be the case of AI augmentation techniques. I do not think the whole person is artificial outright. The older the video the more clear it should be.
What can we tell is 100% real is onlyfans money and someone actually being in front of the camera.
Kinda makes you want to try to pull off something like this doesn’t it? Whether it is the case or not it really looks like an exciting way to make some money on the side.
At least before such things become super common
Augmentation does make more sense indeed.
With OnlyFans I don’t think I’ve a problem, yet. But lying about one’s identity they’re selling I do consider as immoral, so no.
I do not have such problems 😂 but I appreciate generally that there are way more people who are concerned with such things. Makes society possible probably. Let’s hope it never changes.
However any perceived issues with lying about identity cannot be raised in the context of online porn. The lie is the key to the entertainment. End result is what matters with onlyfans. There is no deception where there wasn’t any truth from the beginning. Porn is deception. When someone treats it as real they become disordered and not aligned to the real world.
Not to mention the family friendly YouTubers being very distant from the definition of “real”. You didn’t think they all present their real selves in front of the camera? Showbiz is all smoke and mirrors. There was never any real identity there.
However yes this is probably the most wrong account you would want to have parasocial relationship with. Not that there are any right.
What is the biggest confirmed prime number to this date?
It’s Emmie, not google dot com
If I had to guess, I’d say her OF gig is far from a full time job. So she still has time to spare to work on what she enjoys, and the capital to start an actual business down the road.
CapITAlisM iS thE BeST sysTEm wE HAve! SOCialIsM doeSNt woRK!
If you’ve got it, flaunt it.
I hope she manages to set up an irrevocable trust that guarantees steady income for the rest of her life so someday she can quit sex work and just pursue art or something if she wants
Hell, maybe it’ll turn out that sex work is her art and that is ok too
But my Puritan beliefs are more important than her well being!!!
/s
Good for her but I can’t help but feel envious that paths and choices like this are basically exclusively only available to the opposite sex
you could argue that men have similar exclusive, lucrative paths that use their strength/athleticism and are also probably statistically similar rates of exclusivity within their sex. Like, not everyone will be a professional footballer just like not every onlyfans model makes livable income.
Not to mention, it’s definitely possible for men to have successful careers in sex work. I expect there are far fewer successful men in sex work, and they probably need to be ok with having a mostly male clientele. But it’s still possible.
The mean earnings for OF is $150/month. Meaning it’s likely there’s a vast majority of people earning $50-100/month, and a vast minority earning $100k/month.
With props, camera, lighting, editing “costuming” etc, you probably lose money doing it.
Blame that on men being the only people willing to pay for it.
That said there’s plenty of gay men out there willing to buy pictures of your ding dong if it’s photogenic enough.
it isn’t. there’s a lot of male OF models too, although their fans are probably mostly gay men. good news is, unlike performers from before online videos took off, you don’t really have to be “gay for pay”. OF models can get away with doing solo work as well.
Sex work is performance art.
Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.
Plenty of Chinese, black, south american weiners.
There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.
I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.
The problem with sex work under capitalism isn’t the worker, but the capitalism.
This times several billion
Minus the “sex” part of “sex work under capitalism”
Sex work is real work. When we sufficiently progress as a species the concept itself will become incomprehensible because survival sex will become incomprehensible.
I just mean that the problem with all work under capitalism is the capitalism part.
Fair
What was the problem with it under feudalism?
The feudalism…
^
This is… so inefficient.
She could have become an engineer (or whatever she wants), made videos about it, and made a big difference in many people’s lives, and had whatever personal life she wanted. Instead, she’s producing ‘entertainment’ that’s been replicated a bajillion times.
I an happy for her personally, but this is such a loss to society and a huge ding against the education/work pipeline. I assume she would’ve rather gone into her chosen field if it wasn’t such a miserable grind. If it isn’t ‘worth the hardship’ for someone so brilliant, hardworking, charismatic, and everything to go into STEM, then the system she’s in is completely busted.
If it’s such a loss to society, perhaps something should be done about society’s economic structure and how it partitions rewards. Rather than throwing shade on someone for making an economically advantageous decision.
When has anything ever worked that way?
Absolutely never
Especially with that attitude
TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.
Complete the damn degree and then do what you want. At least your have a document to help you if the shit hits the fan.
That’s her only fan too
She can do whatever she wants with that kind of money in the bank. Continuing her degree later wouldn’t be a problem.
I might do this to get out of being a software developer, tbh,