yea if yuo havnt been vaccinated for a while its like getting hit with the same strain,

mid September is what I heard for those

yeah not yet, I’ll be getting them quickly but I was already going to do that. Have had covid twice now (vaccinated both times, and well after the initial couple of years) and would vastly prefer to only get it while vaccinated.

Supposed to be released very soon (as in days, not weeks). The real LPT is to wait for the new version first.

I guess they’re not authorizing the licensure of them, so that’s why it’s so tentative. He’s doing the trump vague thing, so you can’t go after him directly and then slowly take things away.

The rise in COVID comes as the Trump administration has delayed the rollout of the updated vaccine for the fall. Last year, the federal government had fully green-lighted the annual reformulation of the vaccine by June, in time for a rollout that began in September.

This year, however, the Department of Health and Human Services led by vaccine skeptic Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has in effect delayed the rollout of this fall’s COVID shot.

“Updated COVID-19 vaccines have been delayed this year due to federal policy changes, and we are awaiting [Food and Drug Administration] licensure of this season’s products,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said in a statement to The Times. “This means availability in September may be later than what people experienced last fall.”

The California Department of Public Health also warned that because the federal government hasn’t made decisions on licensure approvals and recommendations, “availability and timing of specific COVID-19 vaccine products may be more limited and occur on a later schedule.”

latimes.com/…/covid-rising-fast-in-california-fue…

Yah while I’m aware of the situation and what’s been said, what has been said wasn’t exactly from a highly reputable source, it wasn’t even from the DHHS, it was someone who “talked to” RFK, and somehow every news outlet picked it up.

That all said, it could indeed happen, the administration is unhinged and a spike in covid deaths would be great for their plan of manufactured chaos, but they also have a much longer track-record of leaking crazy implications in order to fuck with the valuation of stocks.

They may also be planning to do the Chairman Trump thing again and leverage their threats for a 10% cut of Moderna and Pfizer’s profits. I just don’t see them cutting off a profitable company for no other reason than an-anti vax narrative they never really cared about, and just pushed to fleece the country’s stupidest fucks.

All in all, it’s way too unverified and unpredictable to know for sure what’s going to happen, however this infographic/poster thing is really terrible. It’s framed like an announcement, posted in first-person, and has no links or sources. It’s so terrible I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone in the administration made it and leaked it also.

Go get your boosters/vaccines and your kid’s vaccines anyway, it shouldn’t take this to do the right thing.

I know you’re using markdown but it’s coming through as “exclamation point equals”. Lemmy supports the full on character i.e. ≠

You know, there’s something called “rule of three”…

Nor John Kennedy, who’s even more of an asshole.

Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.

My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.

I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.

I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

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the worms give him immunity.cant assasinated more than 1 worm at a time.

My understanding is that because of the type of protien that it encodes for, the immunity imparted by the vaccine decreases over time (because of complex immune system reasons). Never to 0%, but lower. The annual booster not only prepares you better for oncoming strains (in theory, when the vaccine research, development, and approval systems work as expected), but re-ups your immunity to existing strains.

The theory as I understand it is that because viruses like COVID-19 pass through populations in waves, your body is developing a very strong short-term immunity to neutralize any immediate “rebound” waves (imagine a wave bouncing off the side of a pool, yes, viruses move through populations like that). It then maintains a weaker, long-term response. By fooling your immune system into thinking you have COVID-19 right now, the vaccine bumps your body ino “short-term” response mode, so your best possible immune response is at the ready if the real thing shows up.

I am not an epidimeologist, but I read a lot of their work from 2020-2023. I might have details wrong, but if it’s been >6mo since you’ve had a booster, you would probably benefit from getting another one.

yea your memory b-cells are the one that maintains at a low levels of antibodies against certain disease, it is one of the reasons measles is dangerous they damage the dendritic cells which presents antigens to b-cells so your bascially partially immunosuppressed, besides the acute infection.

Good, I hope you get COVID and suffer its consequences.

Yeah, the reason is that RFK Jr. is a hack.

The reason the “shots recommendations have changed” is the sociological production of the end of the pandemic.

COVID, especially long COVID are causing longterm organ damage and massive increases in disability(Pandemic Accountability Index "What COVID-19 Does to the Body, June 2025).

I can’t tell you why governments of different political leanings around the world are supporting various levels of this vibes-based public health negligence “it’s over”-brain.

But I can tell you my immediate family member got COVID again this year - almost nobody wearing masks where they live, so they rarely wear one even though they had terrible long COVID before - and was sick in bed for another 10 days. They had had to argue to be allowed a COVID booster vaccination, a couple of months before that.

What a dumb thing to say.

The reason is lying terrorists lying.

And pathetic bitches like you are helping them.

In my country the’re still free lol, also, SinoVac, is effective, but way less so than mRNA vaccines, here in chile, basically everyone got vaccinated again and again with different vaccines.

They actually make some planes from composites now. You should see the 787! Then again American made Boeing planes tend to crash or have other safety issues so maybe don’t go and see one.

Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.

Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.

i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.

Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all

The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/

I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.

The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general ‘covid was a hoax’ sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.

There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn’t consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.

Jay Bhattacharya, said here that I don’t think anyone disputes that it increases the rate of myocarditis, especially in young men..

Likely he is referring to this study that:-

The risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine

But this statement is about a particular (temporary) adverse reaction. It does not mean the vaccine is net more harmful. The fact you came away with that impression just shows how easy it is to misrepresent facts.

I’m a a solid blue state and the general consensus is no one even cares anymore.

It became a political statement here. That’s why you see people with masks on, when they’re in a car by themselves lol.

Cant speak for the US, but in general, Covid is still more dangerous during the acute infection than the flu and also causes much larger numbers of post-viral sequelae. Those are all potential reasons to recommend the vaccine, which can reduce the severity of both

There’s more people in the US. Plust the US is not collectively vaccinating people

Same in Germany. Last year I asked some people who got vaccinated if they think I also should get another shot and all of them told me that I’m not in a vulnerable group (or a caretaker) so I shouldn’t bother. So we basically repeat what we know from the normal flu (influenza) and just vaccinate vulnerable people. I’m not sure if this is the best way to do it, because I think many people die each year of the flu as well. However, death statistics are hard and I couldn’t find any reliable data on this either.

It very likely has been a problem and is just being underreported.

A single infection often doesn’t cause much harm, but those who have constant exposure and infections (teachers especially) are having major health problems. It’s barely mentioned outside of science papers.

I saw a study the other day that mentioned that Sweden during the pandemic had a median time of 30 days sick leave for those who had Covid.

In the US that would be rare if not impossible for a lot of people. I would think if someone could get a shot that would lessen symptoms or duration in a country that has such a poor health care safety net it might be worth while.

I’m Swedish, live in France.

Here: vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate, in Sweden : meh do whatever.

Also Swedish people: hello neighbor please you’re only 5 meters away from me it makes me uncomfortable.

In the meantime in France: Hello friends and neighbours, kiss kiss kiss kiss!

On a more serious note, Sweden had the medical capacity that France didn’t have, which is one of the big reasons in the very different response to the pandemic in those two countries.

You guys have benefits to protect you, if you get sick. Americans barely get sick leave, medical bills are ridiculous, and if covid leaves you crippled, SSI (Disability) pays a whopping $11k a YEAR. It’s not enough to survive on, despite paying taxes. Yeah, someone might have worked enough hours to get SSDI, which is a few dollars more an hour, but still not enough to cover rent.

This is the Danish opinion

The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination. People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population

At the rate that things are devolving, if you have the means, you may consider emigrating somewhere else. And maybe not Canada because we’ll probably be invaded by your country in the following years, or months.

Lupus is on the list of conditions that merit a vaccine for the under 65 crowd, since it is an autoimmune disease with immune compromising medications.

It’s actually a pretty long list. Being overweight (BMI over 25), having ADHD, depression, being sedentary, being a current or former smoker, having substance misuse disorders, along with all the other ones you’d expect, like asthma, cancer, heart disease, transplant recipients, and anyone who needs a careworker.

As of now, you can self certify as being in one of these groups (you don’t need a doctor’s note). And your doctor can still recommend it for you if you’re not on the list, as long as you don’t have an anti vaxxer doc.

www.cdc.gov/covid/risk-factors/index.html

Waiting for the “sounds like you need new friends” joke, but that’s really a bummer. It’s difficult to make friends and connect with people as it is, and then this shit polarizes us and makes what used to be a fairly private stance something that would rarely, if ever, come up in friendly conversation. Hopefully they aren’t raging Nazis or anything…

What are you talking about? What’s a clot shot?

<---- hexbear is that way

I read that it’s still effective because the latest version is an ofspin of one strand compatible with the vaccine.

Yeah we’re going into flu season soon. And covid vaccines actually should be updated even more often than flu.

Prayers should be applied topically or to worn armor, written on parchment and attached to a stamped wax seal infused with holy oils.

Thoughts are often immunosuppressive and should be guarded against with tinfoil headwear or nerve staples.

“Pestilence” is such an underused word. They’re a lot like locusts.

I’ve had the same message for ~2 months now. Not sure what is going on with CVS.

i would just ask your insurance if they allow vaccination at other pharmacies, like walgreens, i know they allow fre flu ones.

I just scheduled my updated covid shot through CVS this morning.

If you really want the vaccine, just follow the advise of your physician. They’ll know or find out wheter you can combine them.

If your a normal, healthy person there is no need to get the vaccine though. I get the flu shot every year because my employer offers it and I’m just a big wussy.

I’ve gotten Covid and Flu vax at the same time. I prefer it, I usually get a fever and my arm gets really sore. One time I tried one in each arm, and I had two sore arms for a couple days instead of one.

i tried asking for meningicoccal vaccine, but im not at risk so i wasnt given one, or the hpv one,. i was asked about the chickenpox vaxxine once, but i had CPOX when i was young, and shingles when i was 20. i had the vax for it, i dint know, but it appears it doesnt stop or reduce the severity of HZ.

Anyone in healthcare who are still seeing knockdown effects of the disease for long term health effects in their patients. Oh, and those who have empathy.

People that aren’t idiots?

Exactly

Please send help - an Albertan

RSV is available in the states, but you would have to be in the risk groups and its not eligible to everyone.

Stay strong Canada! I hope in a few years people will just think of Canada when you say “America” because it’s the major civilized country in North America

It isn’t like the flu and all the non-liars know it.

Yeah true, kinda like how the flu shot is also widely available and free most autumn and winter time periods. Weird.

I still don’t get why my comlent was removed. Is there any log with comments?

Who pays if you get myocarditis from COVID?

11 cases per 100,000 from vaccine

infection with SARS‐CoV‐2 increases the risk of myocarditis by 16‐fold from 9 cases per 100 000 to 150 cases per 100 000.

I’ll take my chances lmao

at least we can “find comfort” in the fact that republicans are unlikely to want to get vaccinated.

Or are extremely delusional and have a terminal savior complex. You’d be surprised to know how much people believe these kinds of bullshits, even if they start out as lies.

“A good liar will eventually believe their own lies if they were truth from the very beginning.” - some of the people of the early far-right I could talk to personally. I even heard the “Truth is not on our side” line a bit too much.

Yes