Yeah but then you get branded as the person that publishes negative results and that complicates things, and the politics around that. Its something only well established people in the field have the luxury of doing, unfortunately.
The thing is negative results are often the most valuable. If a hypothesis is disproven, it’s gone. The search space is reduced and people don’t need to waste their time with it.
Yes they are but also the general attitude and politics at play just don’t allow for anyone but a well established name to publish negative results and still be taken as a serious researcher.
I agree a 100% about how valuable it is in reducing the search space.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Apr 14:48
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And then sometimes they are right and they have to work really hard to convince other people and they get famous and stuff. And then they think that their other ideas that are outside the mainstream are also genius because they had them, e.g. vitamin c against cancer or racism. But they don’t work really hard to prove them because they are famous now so why should they. They never find out that their terrible ideas are terrible and die hated by everyone.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world
on 14 Apr 15:06
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I got scooped by my own PI in grad school. Had an idea for a next step, was told it’s a bad idea and not a good extension of the literature… then found out someone else in the lab started what I had proposed per the PI’s guidance.
Older academic: “I don’t know why but I want to give you better boobs… I mean grades, but not to Jack although his arguments are better than you. Jesus fuck me already”
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Student<continue to paint brick in yellow>: Sayense!
This is why people need to publish negative results: so future generations of PhD students don’t think their ideas that don’t work are “novel.”
Yeah but then you get branded as the person that publishes negative results and that complicates things, and the politics around that. Its something only well established people in the field have the luxury of doing, unfortunately.
The thing is negative results are often the most valuable. If a hypothesis is disproven, it’s gone. The search space is reduced and people don’t need to waste their time with it.
All those glory hunters are the problem.
Yes they are but also the general attitude and politics at play just don’t allow for anyone but a well established name to publish negative results and still be taken as a serious researcher.
I agree a 100% about how valuable it is in reducing the search space.
And then sometimes they are right and they have to work really hard to convince other people and they get famous and stuff. And then they think that their other ideas that are outside the mainstream are also genius because they had them, e.g. vitamin c against cancer or racism. But they don’t work really hard to prove them because they are famous now so why should they. They never find out that their terrible ideas are terrible and die hated by everyone.
I got scooped by my own PI in grad school. Had an idea for a next step, was told it’s a bad idea and not a good extension of the literature… then found out someone else in the lab started what I had proposed per the PI’s guidance.
Ouch. That would kill my motivation and trust
Oh, it did, for sure. It was a relief to leave that program, honestly.
This perfectly describes my experience working with IT “professionals”.
ftfy
Yeah “professionals” and “experts” and “thought leaders” are a fun bunch
Also:
Older academic: “Wow they’re hot, I’m gonna abuse my position and sextort them”
Also:
Older academic: “I don’t know why but I want to give you better boobs… I mean grades, but not to Jack although his arguments are better than you. Jesus fuck me already”
I could never respect anyone who wore that hat.
You’re just jelly of my hat
I would.
“A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he’s not afraid of anything.”
it’s one of those hats