I try to spice it up with some VB Macros but it's still ultimately just a spreadsheet.
from Gork@sopuli.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 25 Jul 16:55
https://sopuli.xyz/post/30957872

So many spreadsheets.

Graph. Ordinate has "State of Life". Abscissa had "Maths Skill". 

Inversely parabolic with math increasing up to calculus, then going down to a spreadsheet level of math.

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N4kt0@lemmy.zip on 25 Jul 17:17 next collapse

As an engineer, this hits close to home.

virku@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 17:23 next collapse

Computer engineer checking in. Same here!

EditsHisComments@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 17:27 collapse

Hopefully you utilize Python instead of Excel for data management. Unless you have non-engineers or tech-illiterate people on your team or adjacent teams lol

ViatorOmnium@piefed.social on 25 Jul 18:00 next collapse

Why not both. I once wrote an abomination that read and wrote data into a Google Spreadsheet, interacting with formulas in the spreadsheet in the process.

EditsHisComments@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:21 next collapse

Jesus Christ

virku@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:25 next collapse

Oh Lord. Before I found power bi 15 or so years ago I made interactive speeadsheets that did a lot of querying directly towards sql based on a set of input cells. Did a lot of crunching on the data merging data fetched from different database etc before presenting them in their own sheets. The worst part is that it was a huge leap from what we did earlier. Then I would write sql queries and dump the result to Excel every time management needed data.

iii@mander.xyz on 26 Jul 07:55 next collapse

I hope there’s a place worse than hell

prex@aussie.zone on 26 Jul 14:35 collapse
virku@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:18 collapse

I mostly use sql for data management stuff through c# .NET. But there is a lot of Excel and power bi towards the numbers people.

Saleh@feddit.org on 25 Jul 17:31 next collapse

Engineers: So we had all this complicated theory, but no one can calculate that stuff by himself. Here’s a linear aproximation formula and 50 pages of tables where you just look up the values for the factors given certain conditions.

Rhaedas@fedia.io on 25 Jul 18:02 collapse

The complicated math is for the one guy who made the tables and charts. The rest of you just look it up. It's fine, it's how we've always done it. Even sending people to the Moon had lookup tables for precalculated things. Although those guys were legend, ever try to use a sliderule?

Adalast@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:51 collapse

When your “calculator” is a room full of women, mostly black, it is kinda hard to fit them all into the orbiter.

Edit: I just realized that the “mostly black” came off like I was saying that us part of the reason they would not fit in the orbiter. I was trying to acknowledge the impact and importance of these black women in history, but I am autistic and fail hard at SQ communication.

Rhaedas@fedia.io on 25 Jul 19:25 collapse

I comprehended it as meant, and you're right, give credit where it's due.

marcos@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 17:31 next collapse

As an engineer, this is missing a first bump where you stop doing “basic operations” still in school, and develop an intrinsic fear of “numbers and counting”.

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 17:33 next collapse

Join the technicians in the field who get to laugh at engineers, its more rewarding

Edit: sales get the commission tho :(

EditsHisComments@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:20 next collapse

“Be a Mechanical Engineer, then you get to hate nearly everyone including yourself.” A Mech. Engineer told me this after we both had a really long day. If you pay attention to those guys, you’ll find that they know more than most because they play the parts of Engineer, Tech, and Liaison

jumperalex@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 19:31 collapse

There’s a reason we called it Anger Mech in school

Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org on 25 Jul 20:23 collapse

Thats the great thing abput being a electrical engineer, people wont laugh at you but they will ask you to fix their house wirering. And once you just look at a pcb and casually tell them what the parts off it do you blow their mind.

kersploosh@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 17:58 next collapse

Depending on the field, later in your career you can often skip the spreadsheets and get away with just saying, “That looks close enough,.” If you have enough seniority people will assume you know what you’re talking about.

iii@mander.xyz on 26 Jul 07:54 collapse

As another engineer, not at all 🤨

L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jul 17:44 next collapse

Woah woah woah wait hold up. So you’re saying I can just represent these complex multi-variable integral abominations into just stuff like a couple of matrices and vectors???

General_Effort@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 17:59 next collapse

There is no real math on that graph. It’s just what anyone learns in a good education. Well, that and probability theory, combinatorics, and statistics.

I’d really expect more from a math student.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io on 25 Jul 18:48 collapse

I was gonna say the same thing. Advanced calc was the baseline for Engineering when I went to school.

The real math folks got into some crazy shit! Where’s the topology‽ Where’s the knot theory‽ Set Theory? Fractals and Chaos theory? Hierarchy of infinities? Where’s the Schwartzfeldt nonlinear matrix transcendence or whatever madness those beautiful nerds have cooked up‽

Adalast@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:54 next collapse

Awww, thank you. I feel seen.

General_Effort@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 21:21 next collapse

ikr? None of that stuff looks intimidating or totally useless. Not. Real. Math.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 25 Jul 22:55 collapse

They're probably talking about calculations (in which case "math skills" is a mislabel), which I don't think math students do much of.

don@lemmy.ca on 25 Jul 18:30 next collapse

Human kettlebell here, them squigglies shore is purdy!

[deleted] on 25 Jul 18:53 next collapse

.

Adalast@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 18:55 next collapse

I like to spice up my time with spreadsheets by doing them in Pandas. That way they can be theoretical and it is like mathematical roleplay.

Sabata11792@ani.social on 25 Jul 19:56 next collapse

It guy, I have to fix spredsheets that are actually charts on word documents. I can not make them a spreadsheet as it is a miracle they got it that far and I must not break the finances.

Alpacalypse@crazypeople.online on 25 Jul 20:06 next collapse

Uhhhhhhhh wow. My sympathies.

iii@mander.xyz on 26 Jul 07:56 collapse

I must not break the finances.

If they’re doing calculations in a table in word, then it’s already broken :)

socsa@piefed.social on 25 Jul 20:43 next collapse

It's amazing to be to see these memes where people seemingly declare that all applied mathematics is done by MBA flunkies in Excel. Just in the past year I've done cuda implementations to calculate the intersection of N cones, physics-based EM ray tracing, and fisher-information regularization.

Christ if there's this population of physicists and mathematicians on here who are yearning for real DSP and numerical analysis jobs, then fucking hit those DMs because we cannot find you on Indeed.

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 26 Jul 01:29 next collapse

I dropped out of my Physics MS and my shitty job is now inventory spreadsheets. Fucking hate people trying to make them relational databases.

Rekorse@sh.itjust.works on 26 Jul 01:52 next collapse

Its probably the required degrees that are the problem, not the lack of people who like numbers and would want to have those jobs. Feel free to share how to get into the field quickly though if you know how.

socsa@piefed.social on 26 Jul 14:41 collapse

The meme says "life of a mathematics student"

Rekorse@sh.itjust.works on 26 Jul 17:44 collapse

And another commenter was a student who dropped out. College is still a difficult thing to pull off for a lot of people.

jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk on 26 Jul 17:52 collapse

Well I for one would be delighted to cross 35 years of software engineering with a maths hobby but I can hardly find anything.

The only place I did find declared that I didn’t have enough maths without even seeing me or saying what kind of maths I would need for the role. From the JD it didn’t sound too tricky: pathfinding for construction robots.

TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com on 26 Jul 01:31 next collapse

the best most classic excel video ever: You Suck at Excel by Joel Spolsky (Reupload)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxBg4sMusIg

JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Jul 18:35 next collapse

Is this really the path of mathematicians? I would at least assume they’d learn matrixes and linear algebra, and at least dip their toes into one of the adjacent tangential maths like discrete maths.

BearGun@ttrpg.network on 27 Jul 10:11 collapse

On the “numbers and counting” part they crossed over 5 lines instead of 4, I am upset.