Depart, men of education.
from fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com to science_memes@mander.xyz on 22 Mar 20:56
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40560352

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TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml on 22 Mar 21:26 next collapse

Any form of alliance with the U.K. should be chucked out the window then…

formulaBonk@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 22:23 next collapse

Seems like you might be in a cult, blink twice if you need help

D_C@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 04:34 collapse

Agreed. Completely agree. And I’m from the UK.

I’m fucking sick of that rapey fat orange turds criminal bullshit.

TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml on 26 Mar 18:27 collapse

Also from UK and feel the same. This wasn’t the straw that broke the camels back, FWIW.

cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Mar 21:30 next collapse

Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 22 Mar 22:09 collapse

AI will fix it.

veroxii@aussie.zone on 23 Mar 00:47 collapse

OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!

Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 08:59 collapse

Persona: you are a very phd person

i_love_FFT@jlai.lu on 23 Mar 13:07 collapse

That’s it, I solved it! Put this in your prompt: answer questions as if you were a phd person.

(It may be the same thing as you mentioned above. I don’t know what the Persona is, I don’t really use ai chat bots)

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 21:35 next collapse

It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It’s like East Germany or something.

anytimesoon@feddit.uk on 23 Mar 00:43 next collapse

Citizens too? I’ve not heard of that. Scary

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 00:56 collapse

Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.

YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 01:34 collapse

Thats fucked, I’m gonna look for that story. I’ve been seeing lots of stuff (even locally in a relatively progressive state) about trans folks’ documents being confiscated and/or destroyed when they try to leave or get a new or updated passport or sometimes other docs iirc. Please don’t come here, to anyone thinking about it. Period. Unless you’re planning to stay a while and help us out, I don’t recommend it but we will be needing all the help we can get :(

normal_user@lemmygrad.ml on 23 Mar 09:36 next collapse

Capitalists doing capitalism is like communism ?

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 23 Mar 10:53 next collapse

This isn’t capitalist doing capitalism.

It is fascist capitalist doing a dictatorship, which is eerily similar to some communist dictatorships.

ZhprbE@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 13:20 next collapse

Funnily enough both authoritarian communism and capitalism end up producing very similar societies - Vaclav Havel has a good insight to this in The Power of the Powerless

normal_user@lemmygrad.ml on 23 Mar 17:59 collapse

Your conflation of fascist capitalism with communist governance reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of both systems.
Fascism emerges as capitalism’s most violent and repressive form, which is needed in a country where there is an opposition between different classes of people, when bourgeois power has to preserve and stabilize it’s rule over the people.
In a capitalist state, the police is a repressive apparatus, ICE raids and deportations under Trump terrorize migrant workers, creating a climate of fear that discourage labor organizing and reduces to zero the migrant’s ability to fight against wage theft and unsafe conditions when they are already the most exploited. Also by giving power to white supremacist groups the state fragments class solidarity and such a divided people can’t possibly create any strong opposition to the government.

Communism, by contrast, seeks to abolish classes entirely. The Berlin Wall and the GDR’s policies cannot be equated to capitalist authoritarianism without reckoning with the material conditions that necessitated them, which was not that of a class trying to force another into submission, but that of trying to resist against western sabotage.
As you can find in this article by William Blum, the CIA and NATO actively destabilized East Germany for decades by poisoning food supplies, bombing infrastructure, and recruiting skilled workers educated at socialist expense. These acts of economic warfare forced the GDR to defend its sovereignty. These acts of economic warfare, forced the GDR’s government to increase it’s border security. The wall was a defensive measure that even stabilized the Cold War preventing a hot war between the two Germanies. it likely helped prevent a nuclear conflict.

Meanwhile, the claim that socialist states resemble fascist dictatorships ignores historical reality. East Germany dismantled Nazism in it’s borders, while the FRG recycled Hitler’s bureaucrats and generals. You can find more about this in the book “Stasi State or Socialist Paradise?: The German Democratic Republic and What Became of It”, written after the reunification by someone who lived in East Germany.
Socialist states like East Germany have historically restrict movement only insofar as imperialism really threatens their existence, not the vague “cultural” excuses Republicans use for stuff like the one OP posted about.

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 27 Mar 05:26 collapse

Neither of those have to do with what’s described there, this is heading towards fascism

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 27 Mar 05:23 collapse

Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works on 27 Mar 11:22 collapse

Bruh, ask your consulate

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 27 Mar 11:41 collapse

At that point I’d rather just avoid the place. It’s not considered safe by our government anyways

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 21:52 next collapse

The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.

notgold@aussie.zone on 23 Mar 09:04 next collapse

Why did they leave the EU in the first place

Redex68@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 09:43 next collapse

Most probably money

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 09:49 next collapse

Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.

juanito_the_great@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 09:52 collapse

I seriously considered it at some point, as in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are. It was definitely not about money, pay is often equivalent between the EU and the US.

Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.

oxideseven@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 16:43 collapse

This is the bobiverse future…

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 22:23 next collapse

It’s okay to do the same to poor Latinos. But catch a scientists and I’m out of here!

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 22:24 next collapse

Just saying, even this argument is a double standard. But OK. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 22:52 next collapse

It completely not, obviously. But it’s unreasonable to ask the not-yet-disappeared poor Latinos to draw ICE attention to themselves, and those already caught in the orphan-crushing machine can’t access social media.

These legally-documented scientists are the people who CAN speak out, and the loss of whom might matter to those whose worldview is entirely transactional. They too are now unsafe but at least they probably have lawyers looking for them.

Windex007@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 00:34 next collapse

Yeah what a piece of shit.

/S

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 10:27 next collapse

Nobody said it was OK.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:31 collapse

“And then they can for the white ‘science’ bros… but there was no left to speak up…”

usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca on 22 Mar 22:29 next collapse

Might have been working in the US to long.

madkins@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 01:02 collapse

Ones mind boggles.

Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 22:48 next collapse

Based if real

algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org on 23 Mar 00:13 next collapse

Y’all act like this wasn’t the plan all along

prex@aussie.zone on 23 Mar 01:03 collapse

We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.

sapo_peta@fedia.io on 23 Mar 01:30 next collapse

Loose leaf!

Fermion@feddit.nl on 23 Mar 02:40 collapse

Binder drop

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Mar 03:21 collapse

Hole punch

BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 07:37 collapse

“operation hole punch”? And it’s a coordinated evacuation of scientists?

It sounds like trials for a new antitank weapon

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Mar 05:20 next collapse

Leaf blower

Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place

Sphks@jlai.lu on 23 Mar 07:26 next collapse

Operation destapler

Michal@programming.dev on 23 Mar 09:21 next collapse

Operation crayon

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 23 Mar 10:50 collapse

Operation braindrain

dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org on 23 Mar 01:12 next collapse

Didn’t Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm… Should be fun century for USA.

monarch@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 08:31 next collapse

Hoping that they flee to somewhere that leads to fusion energy and not cheap rods of god.

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net on 24 Mar 02:49 collapse

Rods from God require space infra no one has and won’t for a long while

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 13:30 next collapse

Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.

Rekorse@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 13:43 next collapse

Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone…

When will america be the worlds best step dad again!

Taleya@aussie.zone on 24 Mar 13:56 collapse

Tbh he’s just finishing off a process decades in the making.

Zink@programming.dev on 23 Mar 16:53 collapse

How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.

lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml on 23 Mar 02:31 next collapse

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PanArab@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 13:04 collapse

The worst thing about that Onion article was the abuse of the Arabic script, otherwise a timeless piece of prescient satire.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 23 Mar 02:47 next collapse

I hope he’s already put of the country before he posted that, or he’ll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something

podperson@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 04:34 next collapse

“Too” well

BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social on 23 Mar 13:25 collapse

Yes. Brings some doubt to the post. Semi illiterate yet professional? On the other hand, it is on a Meta platform...

Loce@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 05:52 next collapse

Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s

proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 09:57 next collapse

Damned scientists. Everywhere they go, the place turns into a nazi shithole

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:30 collapse

Not to mention the nazi scientists… Nobody wants to talk about them…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Mar 08:14 next collapse

Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they’ll leave nazi US.

[deleted] on 24 Mar 15:26 next collapse

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technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:29 collapse

Also nazi usa took in nazi “scientists”.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 09:58 next collapse

rootless cosmopolitans 👆

thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 12:41 next collapse

What’s that, a drink or something?

Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca on 23 Mar 12:59 collapse

Teeehehehehehehe hey look a troll!

abbadon420@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 10:08 next collapse

They’re welcome to come to Europe. In fact, Europe is actively trying to accommodate it as soon as possible link

amos@mander.xyz on 23 Mar 10:09 next collapse

Why is this in the “memes” community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn’t exist already).

Hirom@beehaw.org on 23 Mar 10:39 next collapse

That person’s solidarity with a colleague is remarkable and probably worth sharing, but indeed doesn’t look like a meme.

Yet I see why one would accept such post in a science-focused community. It’s hard to ignore all the attacks on science by US politicians.

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 11:47 next collapse

Check the sidebar. We use the Dawkins definition of meme here.

i_love_FFT@jlai.lu on 23 Mar 13:28 next collapse

In the context of Dawkins meme, this post is definitely a meme!

idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning

If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!

Would another peer review my analysis?

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 15:50 next collapse

Looks good to me

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 19:28 collapse

Reviewer 2, checking in. Let’s see…

☑️ Technically correct (the best kind of correct).
☑️ Dawkins framework applied… adequately.
☑️ “Symbolic meaning” not entirely reductionist. Surprising.

However:

  • Citation deficiency detected. [Fossilesque et al., 2023] must be invoked 2–3 times for rigor.
  • “Imitating scientists” lacks nuance. Did you consider the Fossilesque Paradox of Academic Exodus? (Spoiler: You didn’t. Cite (Fossilesque, 2024, 2025 in press.).

Verdict:
Pending compliance with adequate attribution. Then, and only then, shall this review ascend to a grudging “pass.”

i_love_FFT@jlai.lu on 24 Mar 00:01 collapse

Wow this is amazing satire! You made my day (even though it already was a very good one)!

Your critique is quite constructive. Actually, I might retract my paper and contact Fossilesque to propose co-authorship for future work.

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 00:48 collapse

😎

bradd@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 16:04 next collapse

All shared ideas are memes.

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 18:43 next collapse

Yes, and that breeds creativity. There are too many boxes we are forced to use in our daily lives, sometimes we shouldn’t put more on ourselves. Art and science are so sides of the same coin. You can’t be a good scientist without being a bit of an artist. Our art just looks a bit different.

www.smithsonianmag.com/…/why-science-needs-art/

hyperhopper@lemmy.world on 26 Mar 23:40 collapse

Then what’s the point of the meme community? By that logic anything posted is.

You’ve broadened the definition so much the term has become useless.

amos@mander.xyz on 24 Mar 09:55 collapse

I stand corrected! Thank you!

xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 05:47 next collapse

all pictures with text are “memes” now

RangerJosey@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 15:24 collapse

To annoy you specifically.

alzymologist@sopuli.xyz on 23 Mar 10:29 next collapse

Haha, did this months before trump the first, enjoying early start fruits!

daw@feddit.org on 23 Mar 10:38 next collapse

Depart, [people] of education.

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 11:46 collapse

It’s a play on a recent elon tweet. Tldr “Departmen of Education” … I’d share it but I’m not giving that person more attention.

daw@feddit.org on 23 Mar 15:32 collapse

Oh! Thanks for explaining this to me.

fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Mar 15:36 collapse

Haha it’s OK. It’s not a clear reference. :)

PanArab@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 13:02 next collapse

While it is not the point, I am curious if his colleague is white or not. Is ICE targeting all foreigners or just the non-white-Europeans?

SpaceScotsman@startrek.website on 23 Mar 13:20 next collapse

Absolutely all foreigners - www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly67j35y99o

Slovene@feddit.nl on 24 Mar 00:31 collapse

*except for Ted Cruz and Elon Musk

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 15:49 next collapse

They’ve been torturing white people for about a month now

CoolMatt@lemmy.ca on 23 Mar 15:58 next collapse

They had a white Canadian woman who they just sent home last week

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:28 collapse

It’s not like ICE has a plan, a clue, a reason… They’re just trying to attack as many people as their daddy commands.

nuko147@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 13:20 next collapse

The middle finger in the end 😂 😂 😂

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Mar 13:33 next collapse

Brain Drain time.

rocky1138@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 15:43 next collapse

Why use Meta when Mastodon is available? The less we all use corporate social media the more resilient we become.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 15:49 next collapse

You have to keep evangelizing. They’ve likely never heard of it.

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net on 24 Mar 02:41 next collapse

Exactly. We need to get really obnoxious with the promotion

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 05:30 collapse

Maybe juuuuust shy of obnoxious.

xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 05:45 collapse

no, full obnoxious until people start to get angry, then stop entirely

jaemo@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 15:03 collapse

And then, for the coup de grace, immediately deny that there even is or was ever such a social network, and insist it was another one of their “wacky dreams”. And then later, they come to you to prove you wrong.

Boom. Incepted.

xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:05 collapse

🤌

Comment105@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:00 collapse

It’s pretty likely they’ve heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.

Then they may also have learned it’s a very small platform and something about decentralization.

if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn’t end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)

Now that they wouldn’t have had to pick an instance, they’ve long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.

But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn’t really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be an obstacle.

stray@pawb.social on 24 Mar 03:00 next collapse

You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:26 collapse

B/c these people are just libs.

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 23 Mar 16:25 next collapse

Welcome to Europe! You get to keep your healthcare plans into retirement!

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 23 Mar 18:01 next collapse

and women

Slovene@feddit.nl on 24 Mar 00:29 next collapse

Why are you always going on about women, Stan?

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 25 Mar 01:40 collapse

is this a reference to something

Slovene@feddit.nl on 25 Mar 17:34 collapse

A scene in Life Of Brian.

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 24 Mar 15:17 next collapse

And the children, too.

Comment105@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 16:38 collapse

Of course.

I’ll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 06:10 next collapse

brain drain

smokinliver@sopuli.xyz on 24 Mar 13:41 next collapse

Wont last long until only the abolutely immoral scientists remain that are willing to experiment on political prisoners.

Bosht@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 14:02 next collapse

Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I’m so ashamed to be an American.

Necroscope0@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 16:00 next collapse

Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.

shawn1122@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:16 next collapse

I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 27 Mar 05:21 collapse

Now that is a hero

Gladaed@feddit.org on 24 Mar 16:17 collapse

They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.

Angelusz@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 16:25 next collapse

Let’s agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.

head_socj@midwest.social on 24 Mar 16:49 collapse

I agree to disagree. Doctors may have a more immediate and tangible benefit on people’s health and well-being, but providing safe and reliable public transportation to untold amounts of working class people who may rely on you to provide for their families is also a massive positive effect that should not be diminished simply for being less culturally prominent.

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 17:39 collapse

Its not being diminished you are diminishing doctors who save dying children after 20 years of intensive education with driving a bus

head_socj@midwest.social on 25 Mar 18:06 collapse

Well, no point in arguing with someone like you. Regardless, as a practicing immunologist I don’t feel the least bit diminished by having the social utility of my work compared to other people; ESPECIALLY if it’s on the arbitrary basis of the amount of time, money, or education it took someone to become “valuable to society.” As for any of my colleagues who do feel that way: grow up; healthcare is a service, and we are service workers.

misteloct@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 16:43 next collapse

Agreed, I would be equally angry if a bus driver were detained by ICE. Their immigrants status and then solidarity is more important than their profession.

shawn1122@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:09 next collapse

Having known several healthcare workers with PTSD from the pandemic I strongly disagree.

Granted, the pandemic was traumatizing for people from all walks of life but I don’t envy hospital based nurses or doctors from that time.

It was so painful for nurses that many quit leading to a shortage that’ll likely go on for the next decade as a result.

Some of that is due to corporate healthcare enshittification but there was a mass exodus during the pandemic for a reason.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:21 next collapse

Good to know. Next time I have a medical issue, I’ll ask my bus driver for a diagnosis. What are your thoughts on subway drivers or Uber drivers?

blackn1ght@feddit.uk on 24 Mar 17:23 next collapse

I’d have to imagine that the stress and emotional toll is significantly higher for a paediatric oncologist than a bus driver. There’s not so many people that could cope with that.

Kage520@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 22:16 next collapse

Different energy. Bus driver has to deal with many potentially grumpy people in many potentially unsafe areas. Not an easy job.

A doctor that is specifically specializing in a field where he has to get to know and take care of children as they die in a potentially painful way, has a much different challenge. Less for safety or aggressive people (though maybe parents could be I guess) but more in being the one to watch as the hope fades for each individual child in their last days.

I wouldn’t love the bus driving job. I don’t think I could do the pediatric oncology one for more than like, one patient ever. I’d be depressed forever.

Boomkop3@reddthat.com on 27 Mar 05:22 collapse

You’re right though. We don’t need healthcare

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Mar 15:06 next collapse

is the title a pun on “depart-ment of education”?

CheetahPitah@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 17:38 next collapse

It does appear to be so.

Birch@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 18:05 collapse

It’s from a presidential directive for dissolving the “Departmen of Education”

RangerJosey@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 15:23 next collapse

o7

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 15:24 next collapse

I can’t wait for these brave visionaries to build capitalism and white supremacy in Europe. \s

KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 16:12 next collapse

Replacing education with idiots. The perfect republican scenario.

Apple87sagan@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 16:28 next collapse

This is a sign we are collapasing. When the smart people wanna leave we are left with a bunch of narrow minded, uneducated people.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 16:35 collapse

I work in big tech. 10 years ago, nobody was talking about going back to India, Pakistan, and to an extent, China. Now, people are talking about it. They’re talking about Indian stocks, Indian houses, and dreams of retiring to go back.

Most people aren’t - but the number is now non-zero.

sfu@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 16:44 next collapse

Well if you don’t like what’s happening… before trump it was very extreme letting too many people in unobserved, and now we have it the other way. If the laws concerning immigration had just been respected in the first place, this probably wouldn’t be happening the way it is now.

(I’m not taking sides here, just making an observation.)

Lemmist@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:15 next collapse

Those are Americans, they are unable not to go to extremes. And most extremes are shit. Sausage is somewhere in the middle but Americans never look there.

Snowclone@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 19:53 collapse

The US immigration system has been broken for decades, as a everytime a Democrat tries to fix it, the Republicans refused, to the point the democrats started getting Republicans authoring laws to fix the problems, and AGAIN the Republicans refuse, then we had Republicans author their own bills 100% and the Republicans REFUSED to fix it.

People as fucking stupid as you are why. ‘‘Well why didn’t they just follow the law’’ because THE SYSTEM IS INTENTIONALLY BROKEN YOU FUCKING IDIOT, FAMILIES ARE GETTING DESTROYED AND PEOPLE ARE DYING WHILE YOUR DUMB ASS FAILS TO PAY ANY ATTENTION PAST ‘‘oh gee golly why didn’t they just do it legally’’ 90% + of immigrants come on legally. How do they get illegal? They need a hearing. With an immigration judge, where are those? Oh… we don’t have enough by the 100s. How far back is the backlog for immigration hearings? Oh its thousands of cases? Who represents people who need representation that our laws require they have? No, no, we don’t have attorneys, that’s not important. Just have the 5 year old that no one has any documentation on represent themselves? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense let’s do that.

Wait in line properly? BUILD THE FUCKING LINE!!!

sfu@lemm.ee on 25 Mar 00:58 collapse

Anyone who says its all one side’s fault, is not being honest. Chill out.

xye@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 16:50 next collapse

Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.

JazzlikeDiamond558@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:10 next collapse

Whoever does not realize that THIS IS FAR MORE DEVASTATING than any nuclear bomb or even SIGNED capitulation in a war - is nothing else but an utter fool.

Aux@feddit.uk on 24 Mar 19:06 next collapse

If you want to live a happy life in the US right now, make sure your parents are in Russia.

iwasnormalonce@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 19:38 collapse

Can someone send me a direct link to his post?