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from fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com to science_memes@mander.xyz on 14 Mar 00:17
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Technus@lemmy.zip on 14 Mar 00:21 next collapse

Does the genus name literally translate to “shapeless dick”?

God, I love scientists.

Edit: yeah, basically

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ryedaft@sh.itjust.works on 14 Mar 08:13 collapse

“Lol weird dick 😂😂😂”

HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today on 14 Mar 00:29 next collapse

The hodler plant is in full bloom.

very_well_lost@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 01:12 next collapse

Amorpho what now

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 14 Mar 09:34 next collapse

Memes aside, the plant heats up? Wtf how?

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 14 Mar 11:33 collapse

This got me interested too and apparently aroids as a family are specialized on doing this.

indefenseofplants.com/…/how-aroids-turn-up-the-he…

In lieu of their normal metabolic pathway, which ends in the production of ATP, the mitochondria switch over to a pathway called the “Alternative Oxidase Metabolic Pathway.” When this happens, the mitochondria start burning sugars using oxygen as a fuel source. This form of respiration produces heat.

Nonetheless, some aroids can maintain this costly level of respiration intermittently for weeks on end. Take the charismatic skunk cabbage (Symplocarpus foetidus) for example. Its spadix can reach temperatures of upwards of 45 °F (7 °C) on and and off for as long as two weeks. Even more incredible, the plant is able to do this despite freezing ambient temperatures, literally melting its way through layers of snow.

For some aroids, however, carbohydrates just don’t cut it. Species like the Brazilian Philodendron bipinnatifidum produce a staggering amount of floral heat and to do so requires a different fuel source - fat.

For about 20 to 40 minutes, the inflorescence of P. bipinnatifidum reaches temperatures as high as 95 °F (35 °C) with one record breaker maxing out at 115 °F (46 °C)!

Incredible!!

psud@aussie.zone on 15 Mar 06:14 next collapse

When this happens, the mitochondria start burning sugars using oxygen as a fuel source

That’s also (almost?) universal in human cancers

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 16 Mar 08:17 collapse

Isn’t this just the normal functions of mitochondria in organisms irrespective of kingdom? They burn sugars (in aerobic respiration using oxygen) to produce ATP. ATP can then be used elsewhere in the body as an energy reserve. Animals do it and plants do it. The difference here might rather be that they don’t convert the sugars into ATP but rather use the thermic energy of the reaction to produce heat instead of ATP?

ETA: unfortunately, searching for “Alternative Oxidase Metabolic Pathway” only leads to this very short Wikipedia article and a whole bunch of hard to understand scientific papers. But seems to be an alternative pathway found in various different organisms for various reasons.

psud@aussie.zone on 16 Mar 08:38 collapse

Normal function is sugar to ATP, then the mitochondria use ATP. In humans it’s only broken ATP that uses sugar directly

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 16 Mar 20:22 collapse

Your first sentence is wrong (the mitochondria’s primary function is to generate ATP, which then gets transported to elsewhere where its stored energy is used). And your second sentence is confusing. With “broken ATP” you mean ADP? Or broken ATP synthesis? The point of this alternative oxidase pathway is producing some ATP, but inefficiently. And it produces also heat, because of its inefficiency (not all the energy stored in the sugars can be turned into chemically stored energy so it also produces heat energy. Think traditional light bulb). This heat is then used in the inflorescences of some aroids.

psud@aussie.zone on 16 Mar 21:23 collapse

Yeah it’s outside my expertise so I’m bad at the detail.

Normal process is the nice efficient anaerobic process that produces ATP from glucose

Cancers use an all aerobic process which is less efficient but faster at producing ATP

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 15 Mar 08:29 collapse

Thanks! That’s crazy. Evolution has resulted in some weird shit

Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Mar 11:39 collapse

Satoshi Nakamoto is a plant!