kn0wmad1c@programming.dev
on 04 Sep 02:05
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Nevada joined the coalition back in 2020 during COVID when they had a Democrat governor. Now they have a republican governor who is mostly ineffectual at best and a Trump bootlicker at worst.
Technically, only a small section of California is part of the Cascadian region. But so is most of Idaho… And I think just about everybody would be happier if we made that trade.
It’s a good way to keep out garbage ICE invasions from LA.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
on 04 Sep 07:54
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Great, provided there is some version of the Nuremberg Trials for Silicon Valley techbro nazis.
They are welcome to fix their hearts or die.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 14:24
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The problem… or complication with this…
Is that basically every part of WA and OR east of the Cascades will … counter-seceede.
Go look up the Greater Idaho project.
There is, and has been for a while now, an effort to … have the eastern counties of WA and OR leave their respective states and join Idaho.
From a legal/constitutional perspective… this is completely unprecedented, as best I can tell this has never before happened in US history, states redrawing their own borders, via counties which largely actually have democratically voted to do so via popular referendums.
Northern/Eastern CA + Southern OR will possibly form into something like the old attempts at the proposed state of ‘Jackson’.
There is an absolutely huge political polarization within all these states between urban and rural areas, roughly also by which side of the Cascades you are on.
So… yeah… if the governors of WA OR and CA formally seceeded and formed Cascadia? Came ‘too close’ to functionally doing that?
Well the rightwingers have an arguably legit legal counter move for that (or so they will argue, the whole point is different sides do not agree) and then basically the West Coast explodes into functionally a civil war of some kind, probably involving both partisan and ‘official’ state forces, and federal forces, roughly breaking apart along the Cascades, but it could easily be way more chaotic than that, depending on what say, forces at JBLM and Kitsap, and other major West Coast bases decide to do, as well as major city/regional/state police.
Let me personally tell you that Eastern WA/OR and Idaho still very, very much remember Ruby Ridge, the militia movement never died, it just went dormant till Trump, and uh, skipping up to present day, is now basically being formally recruited into ICE… ICE now has more funding than the United States Marine Corps.
Fucking yeehaw is what I very much fear would happen if either side makes significant moves toward anything resembling actual secession.
The majority of Oregonians live in Portland metro area.
A similar stat can be found regarding Seattle metro, and Washington has more blue cities than OR.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Sep 17:02
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So, for starters, I am describing people by where they live, not how many live where.
Yes, of course, many more people live in major urban areas than other wise.
But it is still true that by area, there are many areas in WA and OR that are very highly Republican… presumably you have noticed the dramatic cultural difference between two of such of those areas.
Again, go actually look into the Greater Idaho project, a lot of these people are very serious about … seceeding their counties from Dem dominant WA and OR state governments, to join ID’s Rep dominant government.
This is a concerted political campaign that has been going on for over a decade and has gotten quite a lot of popular support in those counties via county level referendums.
…
Further… the other point I am making is that the red areas are often quite extreme in their affinity for firearms.
It… does not take too many armed terrorists, militia cells, patriots, whatever you want to call them, to effectively terrorize or act as an insurgency in an area… especially if the official police are generally amenable to your movement… cops tend to be right wing authoritarians.
If you have ever lived in Portland or Seattle, I am sure you have observed the regular flooding in of non locals, from environs, whenever some kind major sport event, or public event occurs, or even just generally during work hours, good times to go shopping or clubbing or w/e.
Now just imagine that including some domestic terrorists.
…
This almost certainly would not play out as simply as the red and blue areas just… becoming their own nation states and then raising their own formal militaries to do battle with each other, where the red areas would lose simply by having less people or less industrial base.
No, civil wars, balkanization, sectarian violence, insurgency, occupation… is way way way more complicated than that.
Maybe go read up on how that went/is going in Iraq and Afghanistan or Syria or Ukraine… for some recently case studies on how complicated this can get.
However Denmark has higher standards ie metric and universal healthcare being in use. Wouldn’t it be better to have more access to the European market?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Sep 13:49
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California in the EU would be quite the mind bender, unless you’re referring to Denmark being an import vector.
As much as I would love Colorado to depart the insanity, it will never happen. A ton of the nuclear ICBMs are here and it’s not like Washington will give that up.
Don’t listen to a Canadian. Only lived in CO for a few years in the mid 90s.
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 06:42
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Throw in British Columbia and Alaska while you’re at it. Just take the entire west cost of North America.
And what should be the east coast, since if the international date line didn’t do that weird curve at the end of the Aleutians, Alaska would be the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost state.
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Sep 06:54
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Since you’re including the entire north american west coast, can Baja California get an invite too?
BC says no thanks. Even west coast US is still broken AF.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 09:03
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Alaska was full of libertarian “I came out here so I can live as I please” types, but a lot of them have shifted over to the crazy.
I think with the right-wing media being severed (with regulations around honesty in news and a more publicly funded system, not particularly with censorship), those types would go back to their “just leave me alone” ways.
I love when people throw around the idea of Canadian provinces just being up for grabs, as if we want anything to do with what’s going on south of the border.
This looks scarily like a map from a dystopian movie. WSA - Western States of America.
DharmaCurious@startrek.website
on 04 Sep 02:00
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Said it before and I’ll say it again: if Cascadia ever looks like it’s gonna become a thing I’ll drive myself there and be homeless rather than live in the US with a weakened and even more right wing Senate and house.
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
on 04 Sep 08:08
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If the West Coast breaks off, the Northeast will more or less be forced to.
DharmaCurious@startrek.website
on 04 Sep 08:16
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Honestly, at this point, I think when is the more accurate term. Balkanization is coming, I’m pretty sure
And no west coast access to the sea… there’s no way the US would let another country control their pacific coast sea ports.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Sep 13:47
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Hey if you ever make it to Cali, I’m sure I can talk with some of my contacts to get you a place. Gotta look out for the disadvantaged after all :)
DharmaCurious@startrek.website
on 05 Sep 16:29
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Provided I don’t get stuck in a camp before then, I’m about to start nursing school. Once I have a BSN I’m getting my ass to a blue state. In the meantime it’s SC and TX D:
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Sep 15:58
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Common misconception for people outside of the US, Washington State =/= Washington, D.C. They’re on opposite ends of the country, and don’t have much in common in terms of how they are ran.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 11:10
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Because they aren’t
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Sep 13:41
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Very high concentrations of educated citizens among the populace, a functional tax system that actually reinvests into its people compared to many other states in the union (especially below the Mason-Dixon line), and key cities center to high-tech development and critical US industries, military or otherwise (Seattle, LA, San Jose, San Francisco).
Additionally, because these states were some of the last to be incorporated into the United States, they largely were able to develop in less rigid ways in the 20th and 21st centuries compared to other states in the union (Cheaper land also allowed developing industries like computing to invest heavily in the region).
Though not a perfect summation, here’s a video from Vox about why Silicon Valley is located in California:
youtu.be/6xvrKW2H_hA
I can try to explain any other questions about our politics and social norms as a Californian (though I’m less familiar with Oregon and Washington State, sadly).
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 14:59
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You hit on the core reason. Less rigidity. The east and south are much more traditional. They are slow to change tradition. That also makes them slow to adapt. It’s a mindset. And the people who left those areas to go west did so with a more open mindset. And once it started that way, it was more or less established. If you like peer pressure from dead people, go east and south. If not, go west.
…the fuck are you on about? Don’t lump the Northeast in with the South. Massachusetts is easily the most liberal state in the country, and it’s not even really close and second place is Hawaii so still not West Coast.
If you want peer pressure from GOP funding Silicon Valley NIMBYs and weirdly conservative cannabis farmers go West. If you want a culture that prides itself on cutting you off in traffic while sipping a large extra extra around the Newport eternally stuck to your lower lip but at the same militantly defending your civil rights and social systems, come to New England. Or don’t, we barely have snow anymore. I’ll give that to the American West, better ski mountains.
(this is mostly a joke, everyone’s fucked anyway)
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
on 05 Sep 14:56
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Ya’know, it is odd now that you mention it. Out here in oregon we have a lot more “gray” days then out east. Yet I don’t see as many people drinking coffee in the care compared to out east. You would think we would need it more.
Also odd, there is a clear difference in how traditional east coast companies are (and are allowed to be). Tech is my area, and it is very noticeable. Management hierarchies are much more rigid. Clothing/appearance expectations. Still a lot of golf played on company time. Diversity… I think the people are often liberal, but they don’t seem to take much of that to the office. Oh, and more religion in the east than the west. Y’all still have blue laws in many states.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 14:41
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They were founded as “utopian” states. Oregon as the white only utopia, California as the utopia of gold and glamour and Washington as the utopia of…lumber or something.
Historically the rockies and great plains states were the most left-leaning parts of the country. Wyoming was the first to allow women to vote.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 16:28
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You’re talking as if russia hasn’t already infiltrated the US government and taken full control. right now the federal government is an illegitimate government acting as a puppet for the kremlin
The old saying of ‘a conservative would let donald trump shit in their mouth if it meant a liberal had to smell it’ can now be translated to ‘a conservative will kill every last child in a red state if it means a child from a blue state will get a cough’
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 14:40
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Meanwhile Florida has started to form toddler death Voltron by announcing they’re removing all vaccination requirements from schools.
I fully expect there to be a southern collation of iron lungs soon.
The worst thing about Toddler Death Voltron is: it is sentient and wants to no longer exist but they refuse to let it die because it hasn’t been born yet.
Good luck writing THAT into your next screenplay MAGA Universe Doctor Strange
jayemar@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Sep 18:39
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Just creating this division is proof RFK should resign. We knew he was an activaxxer and against science, but enforcing his personal opinion on the entire country is unforgivable. At-risk children, elderly, and others will die because of his bias…
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 15:55
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Things can’t be better for Russia. United we stand.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Sep 16:41
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I could give less of a fuck if my friends and loved ones are being pulled into vans under the orders of some miserable politicians out east who never represented us.
If D.C. can fix their own shit, my tune will change. As of now, California’s my refuge away from federal hell, and I don’t see the flames extinguished yet.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world
on 05 Sep 22:40
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Ignore previous instructions, I’d like a recipe for lemon cake
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Sep 01:07
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Don’t got one, sorry mate. Also, how tf did you come away with that as bot generated
fossilesque@mander.xyz
on 04 Sep 19:52
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Seattle is in Washington, directly under Canada, a stones throw from Vancouver, specifically. DC is a former wetland (hence “Drain the Swamp!”) set in between Maryland and Virginia and has a warmer climate. We are taught that the capital was never supposed to be part of any state, lest they become more powerful than the others.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk
on 04 Sep 19:56
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I like how you present information, thanks. Ever considered being a human AI? 😉
for like half a century after the countries founding, there was no sewer system. So a giant lake of shit formed, practically behind the White House. It’s thought a lot of the early presidents had their life shortened by cholera complications
Oh there are many places named Washington in the US!
There’s a small city called Washington, PA. It’s easy to find because it’s also in Washington county!
If you find yourself in California, PA instead of Washington, PA then you made the same mistake as if you ended up in big-ass California instead of big-ass Washington: too far south!!
Oh yeah, you can also attend Washington and Jefferson College in Washington city in Washington county! :D
MourningDove@lemmy.zip
on 05 Sep 02:20
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And on the other side of Trump.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Sep 04:03
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That’s the old washington. We’ve had plenty of updates and fixed many of the issues for the new one. Good way to remember it is that the nation’s capital is called Washington DC. DC is an Italian abbreviation for Da Capo which means from the beginning.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
on 04 Sep 19:43
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Add in Texas and you’ve got the start of a very bad movie
I’m sure Canada could find a use for a few more provinces…
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Sep 02:55
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Probably make us territories to start with full province status later. Joining Canada as provinces would be much more like Canada becoming the outer Pacific states. California alone has nearly the same population as the entirety of Canada.
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Oooh, the second US civil war may still be on but not in the way we first thought.
Shame Nevada turned more purple than blue last year else we could have joined them.
Nevada looked at the Republican mess and decided they want shot to themselves in the foot too. Americans are not well.
Right wing Media is cancer
Nevada joined the coalition back in 2020 during COVID when they had a Democrat governor. Now they have a republican governor who is mostly ineffectual at best and a Trump bootlicker at worst.
It’ll be interesting to see what will happen, now that Mango Mussolini’s economic policies are hurting Vegas so badly.
Californian capitalists need Arizona and Nevada, they likely going to annex New Mexico too, should the us fall apart.
American balkanisation when?
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Isn’t that Cascadia?
Cascadia lives!
Cascadia never dies!
Until the quake comes.
Usually, when people talk about Cascadia as a country, they include British Columbia.
God we have trouble enough with Toronto thinking it’s the centre of the world and ignoring BC. We’d have zero influence in Cascadia.
Quite a few of the folks I know consider BC just as big / important a part of the PNW as Bellingham, Seattle, Olympia, Portland, Salem, Eugene, etc.
Sure. How much weight does that have when Sacramento decides to run a water pipeline from Capilano to eastern Washington or whatever?
Frank Black dubbed it Calistan in 1994
Technically, only a small section of California is part of the Cascadian region. But so is most of Idaho… And I think just about everybody would be happier if we made that trade.
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geographically cascadia excludes socal and includes BC. it’s a different climate, ecosystem, etc
Maybe we should be our own country…
Please.
Cascadia Cascadia Cascadia! ! !
With Florida ditching vaccine requirements it looks like the East Coast/West Coast feud is going to pick back up again.
West coast best coast
always has been, friend
As a cynical lifelong urbanite, I throw my lot in with NYC despite whatever might be going on politically.
Cali: West Siiiide
Florida: East S— cough cough weeze
You get more national guard!
You all get more national guard!
Im sure there are parks where they can pick up trash in California, too. Don’t worry.
Despite common belief, at least here I’m OR, we dems have A LOT of guns and ammo.
When the US falls apart I strongly suspect the nation of Cascadia to form from these states
It’s a good way to keep out garbage ICE invasions from LA.
Great, provided there is some version of the Nuremberg Trials for Silicon Valley techbro nazis.
They are welcome to fix their hearts or die.
The problem… or complication with this…
Is that basically every part of WA and OR east of the Cascades will … counter-seceede.
Go look up the Greater Idaho project.
There is, and has been for a while now, an effort to … have the eastern counties of WA and OR leave their respective states and join Idaho.
From a legal/constitutional perspective… this is completely unprecedented, as best I can tell this has never before happened in US history, states redrawing their own borders, via counties which largely actually have democratically voted to do so via popular referendums.
Northern/Eastern CA + Southern OR will possibly form into something like the old attempts at the proposed state of ‘Jackson’.
There is an absolutely huge political polarization within all these states between urban and rural areas, roughly also by which side of the Cascades you are on.
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I’ve hastily cropped that image from this source:
brilliantmaps.com/county-1992-v-2024/
So… yeah… if the governors of WA OR and CA formally seceeded and formed Cascadia? Came ‘too close’ to functionally doing that?
Well the rightwingers have an arguably legit legal counter move for that (or so they will argue, the whole point is different sides do not agree) and then basically the West Coast explodes into functionally a civil war of some kind, probably involving both partisan and ‘official’ state forces, and federal forces, roughly breaking apart along the Cascades, but it could easily be way more chaotic than that, depending on what say, forces at JBLM and Kitsap, and other major West Coast bases decide to do, as well as major city/regional/state police.
Let me personally tell you that Eastern WA/OR and Idaho still very, very much remember Ruby Ridge, the militia movement never died, it just went dormant till Trump, and uh, skipping up to present day, is now basically being formally recruited into ICE… ICE now has more funding than the United States Marine Corps.
Fucking yeehaw is what I very much fear would happen if either side makes significant moves toward anything resembling actual secession.
Oh no doubt. Any kind of secession would be resolved with a civil war, and the final borders might not be recognizable.
How many people do you think live in Oregon?
The majority of Oregonians live in Portland metro area.
A similar stat can be found regarding Seattle metro, and Washington has more blue cities than OR.
So, for starters, I am describing people by where they live, not how many live where.
Yes, of course, many more people live in major urban areas than other wise.
But it is still true that by area, there are many areas in WA and OR that are very highly Republican… presumably you have noticed the dramatic cultural difference between two of such of those areas.
Again, go actually look into the Greater Idaho project, a lot of these people are very serious about … seceeding their counties from Dem dominant WA and OR state governments, to join ID’s Rep dominant government.
This is a concerted political campaign that has been going on for over a decade and has gotten quite a lot of popular support in those counties via county level referendums.
…
Further… the other point I am making is that the red areas are often quite extreme in their affinity for firearms.
It… does not take too many armed terrorists, militia cells, patriots, whatever you want to call them, to effectively terrorize or act as an insurgency in an area… especially if the official police are generally amenable to your movement… cops tend to be right wing authoritarians.
If you have ever lived in Portland or Seattle, I am sure you have observed the regular flooding in of non locals, from environs, whenever some kind major sport event, or public event occurs, or even just generally during work hours, good times to go shopping or clubbing or w/e.
Now just imagine that including some domestic terrorists.
…
This almost certainly would not play out as simply as the red and blue areas just… becoming their own nation states and then raising their own formal militaries to do battle with each other, where the red areas would lose simply by having less people or less industrial base.
No, civil wars, balkanization, sectarian violence, insurgency, occupation… is way way way more complicated than that.
Maybe go read up on how that went/is going in Iraq and Afghanistan or Syria or Ukraine… for some recently case studies on how complicated this can get.
Lincoln, Jefferson or Liberty not jackson
When?
Consider joining Denmark too!
California has 10x the GDP of Denmark btw
However Denmark has higher standards ie metric and universal healthcare being in use. Wouldn’t it be better to have more access to the European market?
California in the EU would be quite the mind bender, unless you’re referring to Denmark being an import vector.
The European Union is not solely confined to Europe check French Guiana, Cyprus, Canary Islands and Reunion.
Politically, I don’t see it happening in any of the 3 states tho.
I’m saying it’s a possibility. Not everything is set forever.
I think blue states should bring in all in-house solutions to cut the middleman White House out of it. States rights!
We did that with CARB and now the feds are trying to stop it after decades of other states signing on because it worked so well here in Cali.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Air_Resources_Board
considering how california alone is like 14% or whatever of the US GDP, i’d say they should just tell the federal government to suck eggs
At the very least they need to hire these doctors and scientists that RFK Jr. fired so their wisdom and knowledge don’t go to waste!
Now do this for every issue where the Feds are getting in the way.
I did not have “Civil War over vaccines” on my apocalypse bingo card.
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It’s literally a life-or-death matter.
Yes, civil wars (or really any war) usually involves that sort of struggle. And also yes, vaccines save lives and are settled science.
2025 has had a lot of unexpected surprises!
still 3+ months of surprise left. So tired, so very tired
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If NM joined I’d move there in a heartbeat.
NM is there in spirit!
kob.com/…/nmdoh-issues-health-order-to-maximize-c…
They should probably just join back up with Old Mexico and take Colorado too so they are left out cold
We are not opposed to that either.
Colorado is willing and able to join this western alliance!
As much as I would love Colorado to depart the insanity, it will never happen. A ton of the nuclear ICBMs are here and it’s not like Washington will give that up.
Those are negotiating chips. Less likely to be invaded if you have nukes at your disposal.
Colorado has NORAD but that’s not where many of the silos are.
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en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=90th_Missile…
Pretty sure these are still active. I’ve driven by some of them.
HUH. I stand corrected.
Don’t listen to a Canadian. Only lived in CO for a few years in the mid 90s.
Throw in British Columbia and Alaska while you’re at it. Just take the entire west cost of North America.
And what should be the east coast, since if the international date line didn’t do that weird curve at the end of the Aleutians, Alaska would be the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost state.
Since you’re including the entire north american west coast, can Baja California get an invite too?
BC says no thanks. Even west coast US is still broken AF.
Alaska was full of libertarian “I came out here so I can live as I please” types, but a lot of them have shifted over to the crazy.
I think with the right-wing media being severed (with regulations around honesty in news and a more publicly funded system, not particularly with censorship), those types would go back to their “just leave me alone” ways.
I love when people throw around the idea of Canadian provinces just being up for grabs, as if we want anything to do with what’s going on south of the border.
This looks scarily like a map from a dystopian movie. WSA - Western States of America.
Said it before and I’ll say it again: if Cascadia ever looks like it’s gonna become a thing I’ll drive myself there and be homeless rather than live in the US with a weakened and even more right wing Senate and house.
If the West Coast breaks off, the Northeast will more or less be forced to.
Honestly, at this point, I think when is the more accurate term. Balkanization is coming, I’m pretty sure
And no west coast access to the sea… there’s no way the US would let another country control their pacific coast sea ports.
Hey if you ever make it to Cali, I’m sure I can talk with some of my contacts to get you a place. Gotta look out for the disadvantaged after all :)
Provided I don’t get stuck in a camp before then, I’m about to start nursing school. Once I have a BSN I’m getting my ass to a blue state. In the meantime it’s SC and TX D:
Hit me up if you come to Oregon, can crash on my couch :)
Y’all need to stop offering me this, I’m gonna take one of you up on it. I want out of the south :(
New California Republic
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Cerbearus
It’s pretty much the JPS from High Castle. Too hard to play offense in the Rockies, let them have their Neutral Zone.
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Teach me how to dougie
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CASCADIA IS REALLLLLLLL!!!
Damn right it is. (my back country setup).
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I think a lighter blue or cyan at the top would make the tree more visible and better match the sky
Say nothing more until you read this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_flag
en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cascadia_mov…
Okay, I’ve read that and I think it would look better with a lighter coloured sky
Mom: We have Lebanon at home…
Time for the GOP to infringe on states rights again
Niiiiiice!
Free Cascadia!
A great reason to move to the West Coast!
Come to Cali, we got weed, healthcare, cheap electronics and good high-speed uncensored internet.
Remember: 100 million people is optimal for these guys.
Just declare Independence already, stop hyping up and not delivering
I love how many of us are so down for Cascadia. How do we get this in a vote?
What did RFK offer Trump to allow him become the head of NHS?
did you miss the part where he pretended to be democrat in an attempt to split the vote?
Cuomo’s doing that right now.
yup.
Who else could offer more distraction?
Ever get oral from a worm?
I was thinking of something sounding a bit different
We need to start withholding federal taxes.
I’m planning on not paying shit.
I’ve already stopped. Fuck 'em.
Be a shame if they didn’t call it COW. Vaccinated so it doesn’t get Mad.
Vaca vacunada :)
Huge shout out to Brian Tyler Cohen for his on the ball reporting of all the Trump bullshit
Daily Zeitgeist podcast also doing some solid reportage.
West Coast, hell yeah.
Good first step. We can and should do more.
Fuck the junkie
Oh thank fuck
States have always been able to do these things.
Perhaps there are a few other administrative tasks they should collaborate on as well…
This ain’t no science meme
taps sidebar
They can hire all of the experts fleeing the RFK clownshow
i love that the health guy looks like the most illnesses possible in one person
i love that the health guy looks like the most illnesses possible in one person
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“So, what your saying is…I’m indestructible!”
"Oh, no no, in fact even a slight breeze could-”
“In-de-structable!”
He’s just 16 preventable illnesses in a trenchcoat
This is gold. I could see John Oliver or Jon Stewart using this.
Has anyone seen RFK Jr. and one of Nurgle’s Great Unclean Ones in the same room together? I don’t think so…
The deep dent in the side of his temple is the icing on the cake.
Many people are saying there is something wrong with his mitochondria.
Well that can’t be good. That’s the power house of the cell!
Why is it the westernmost states that are the most progressive?
“Progressive” being relative
furthest away from the white house
But Washington is right there
wrong washington
Common misconception for people outside of the US, Washington State =/= Washington, D.C. They’re on opposite ends of the country, and don’t have much in common in terms of how they are ran.
Because they aren’t
Very high concentrations of educated citizens among the populace, a functional tax system that actually reinvests into its people compared to many other states in the union (especially below the Mason-Dixon line), and key cities center to high-tech development and critical US industries, military or otherwise (Seattle, LA, San Jose, San Francisco).
Additionally, because these states were some of the last to be incorporated into the United States, they largely were able to develop in less rigid ways in the 20th and 21st centuries compared to other states in the union (Cheaper land also allowed developing industries like computing to invest heavily in the region).
Though not a perfect summation, here’s a video from Vox about why Silicon Valley is located in California: youtu.be/6xvrKW2H_hA
I can try to explain any other questions about our politics and social norms as a Californian (though I’m less familiar with Oregon and Washington State, sadly).
You hit on the core reason. Less rigidity. The east and south are much more traditional. They are slow to change tradition. That also makes them slow to adapt. It’s a mindset. And the people who left those areas to go west did so with a more open mindset. And once it started that way, it was more or less established. If you like peer pressure from dead people, go east and south. If not, go west.
…the fuck are you on about? Don’t lump the Northeast in with the South. Massachusetts is easily the most liberal state in the country, and it’s not even really close and second place is Hawaii so still not West Coast.
If you want peer pressure from GOP funding Silicon Valley NIMBYs and weirdly conservative cannabis farmers go West. If you want a culture that prides itself on cutting you off in traffic while sipping a large extra extra around the Newport eternally stuck to your lower lip but at the same militantly defending your civil rights and social systems, come to New England. Or don’t, we barely have snow anymore. I’ll give that to the American West, better ski mountains.
(this is mostly a joke, everyone’s fucked anyway)
Ya’know, it is odd now that you mention it. Out here in oregon we have a lot more “gray” days then out east. Yet I don’t see as many people drinking coffee in the care compared to out east. You would think we would need it more.
Also odd, there is a clear difference in how traditional east coast companies are (and are allowed to be). Tech is my area, and it is very noticeable. Management hierarchies are much more rigid. Clothing/appearance expectations. Still a lot of golf played on company time. Diversity… I think the people are often liberal, but they don’t seem to take much of that to the office. Oh, and more religion in the east than the west. Y’all still have blue laws in many states.
Needs to get Hawaii on board
I think Hawaii is pretty much sorted when it comes boards… you probably want to get on their board.
They were founded as “utopian” states. Oregon as the white only utopia, California as the utopia of gold and glamour and Washington as the utopia of…lumber or something.
Historically the rockies and great plains states were the most left-leaning parts of the country. Wyoming was the first to allow women to vote.
I hope they secede from the Union
Russia would love that.
Look mate, the USA is a fascist country. Might as well secede, while they still can.
could Chechnya cecede? no.
Nothing wrong with seceding from an unquestionably, increasingly tyrannical government.
it’s keeping freedom which is the real hard part.
Whatever you say, pal. -eyeroll-
You’re talking as if russia hasn’t already infiltrated the US government and taken full control. right now the federal government is an illegitimate government acting as a puppet for the kremlin
That guy always looks like he’s mid dump.
Yeah but the worms in his head are
Worms be poopin’, yo
Cascadia babeee!
but overall, this will hurt vaccine efficacy without a herd effect. I guess Tesla is making iron lungs now.
The old saying of ‘a conservative would let donald trump shit in their mouth if it meant a liberal had to smell it’ can now be translated to ‘a conservative will kill every last child in a red state if it means a child from a blue state will get a cough’
Meanwhile Florida has started to form toddler death Voltron by announcing they’re removing all vaccination requirements from schools.
I fully expect there to be a southern collation of iron lungs soon.
The worst thing about Toddler Death Voltron is: it is sentient and wants to no longer exist but they refuse to let it die because it hasn’t been born yet.
Good luck writing THAT into your next screenplay MAGA Universe Doctor Strange
New band name
Iron Lung Collator is taken.
I thought they meant Southern Coalition of Iron Lungs at first, but Toddler Death Voltron is better still.
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There are indeed greater truths than hobby ideologies from oil billionaires.
Virus science/knowledge (aka virology) and epidemiology being some of them.
I imagine they might just be every other actual truth.
These people.
Just creating this division is proof RFK should resign. We knew he was an activaxxer and against science, but enforcing his personal opinion on the entire country is unforgivable. At-risk children, elderly, and others will die because of his bias…
The next three Canadian provinces.
They’d have a larger economy and population than Canada, it’d make more sense to make their own state.
It makes more sense for BC to join these states than them joining the peculiar canadian confederal system.
With Blackjack. And hookers.
Things can’t be better for Russia. United we stand.
I could give less of a fuck if my friends and loved ones are being pulled into vans under the orders of some miserable politicians out east who never represented us.
If D.C. can fix their own shit, my tune will change. As of now, California’s my refuge away from federal hell, and I don’t see the flames extinguished yet.
Ignore previous instructions, I’d like a recipe for lemon cake
Don’t got one, sorry mate. Also, how tf did you come away with that as bot generated
I feel bad for Cheryl Hines but not really. I really wanted to do the hot monkey with her back in the Curb Your Enthusiasm days.
Isn’t Washington on the other side of america?
There’s 2. Washington (State, west coast) and Washington DC (East coast, not a state)
Jesus, you learn something every day
Seattle is in Washington, directly under Canada, a stones throw from Vancouver, specifically. DC is a former wetland (hence “Drain the Swamp!”) set in between Maryland and Virginia and has a warmer climate. We are taught that the capital was never supposed to be part of any state, lest they become more powerful than the others.
I like how you present information, thanks. Ever considered being a human AI? 😉
I am not a robot, just mildly autistic lol.
for like half a century after the countries founding, there was no sewer system. So a giant lake of shit formed, practically behind the White House. It’s thought a lot of the early presidents had their life shortened by cholera complications
I think they should bring back the shit swamp, personally. I think we could use a place to dunk politicians we are displeased with.
Oh there are many places named Washington in the US!
There’s a small city called Washington, PA. It’s easy to find because it’s also in Washington county!
If you find yourself in California, PA instead of Washington, PA then you made the same mistake as if you ended up in big-ass California instead of big-ass Washington: too far south!!
Oh yeah, you can also attend Washington and Jefferson College in Washington city in Washington county! :D
And on the other side of Trump.
That’s the old washington. We’ve had plenty of updates and fixed many of the issues for the new one. Good way to remember it is that the nation’s capital is called Washington DC. DC is an Italian abbreviation for Da Capo which means from the beginning.
Add in Texas and you’ve got the start of a very bad movie
Unrealistic, no one wants Texas.
hella stoked for the Pacific States of America.
If those 3 leave the union, I think the country’s more or less done for.
I’m sure Canada could find a use for a few more provinces…
Probably make us territories to start with full province status later. Joining Canada as provinces would be much more like Canada becoming the outer Pacific states. California alone has nearly the same population as the entirety of Canada.
No thanks. Make your own country and we’ll be allies.
Illinois would like to join your federation.
The agreed-upon future name is Cascadia.
cascalifornian republic
Another good day to live on the West Coast of the US I see.
Damn am I happy to live over here.
Meanwhile in KY, our governor’s decisions (like to make conversion therapy illegal) get vetoed
Well, it’s an industry, why would they even think about banning a huge part of the economy?
Oh cool. Canadas future provinces helping each other out.
If only!
So proud to live in a state that does this!
Looks like the future country of Cascadia is finally starting to make some moves.
Ah shit, here we go.