TheFogan@programming.dev
on 19 Jul 21:10
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Could you imagine the confusion if you are used to it though… you’ve considered this scent to mean dead your whole life. would be kind of like as a human noticing your heart isn’t beating, your skin is pale… realizing you are in a coffin and everyone’s performing a service… hmm… guess I am dead. course I guess that’s kind of the difference is humans aren’t so accepting of things. we could be unable to move, realize we are looking from the perspective of our head, which is on the ground 2’ away from the rest of our body and our first thought would be, "Hey can you hear me? Hello!!.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Jul 22:14
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Side note: I am furious that I wasn’t able to find the name of this syndrome without ChatGPT. Is this a skill issue or are traditional search engines (in this case DuckDuckGo) just completely useless now?
Randomocity@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jul 22:24
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I googled “human thinks he’s dead” and that Wikipedia page was the first result
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Jul 22:25
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well “skill issue” was one of the options so it might be that
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Jul 22:26
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Why “human”? Seems a weird way to phrase it but I can’t deny it works.
duckduckgo has become pretty worthless for search, ecosia is slightly better i think but without the privacy benefits. i have a local llm running in koboldcpp that i use if i really need to just bounce words off something while it nods along
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de
on 20 Jul 00:28
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Pretty much the whole Internet got worse in the last decade. Search engines are a pain to use nowadays.
seems like it might be skill issue in this case. a Google search for “medical condition person thinks they’re dead” gave it immediately
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jul 01:54
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Traditional search engines are fucking garbage lately. You search for two words and it gives you generic results for whichever’s more popular. Or it decides a brief phrase, however generic, must mean exactly one thing, so you only see results related to a song by that title.
Tithen@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 03:21
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E.O. Wilson is a monster scientist. His book “The Ants” is mind-bogglingly thorough
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jul 22:00
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Also, Social Conquest of Earth.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
on 19 Jul 22:28
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E.O. Wilson is my hero. More people should study his work for how to approach science. Passion and curiosity got him everywhere.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
on 20 Jul 11:45
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Well damn. I wasn’t expecting to be adding a new book to my reading list as a result of this thread, but y’all’s enthusiasm is such that I feel I have to.
“The Ants” isn’t casual reading, it’s a dense compendium of everything known about ants, covering every known genus and their morphology and behavior. There’s a key, too, so you can identify ants based on their morphology, assuming you ever feel like counting antennomeres or tarsal segments.
“journey to the ants” is a great book for anyone to check out
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jul 21:59
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“Ed Wilson”
More commonly known as E. O. Wilson in his publications. Highly important scientist. Postulated that humans are eusocial creatures similar to ants, termites, seahorses, and naked mole rats because we follow a hierarchical pecking order.
Read his book “The Social Conquest of Earth” if this intrigues you.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jul 22:30
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pivot_root@lemmy.world
on 20 Jul 02:25
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Like it or not, there are people with more power that dictate structure and an order of things.
That didn’t work out too well for the French monarchy, did it?
It’s more accurate to say that the average person doesn’t desire a power structure but merely tolerates it so long as it provides them with some benefit. The moment those structures become oppressive, they get violently torn down.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jul 02:49
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Its been pretty oppressive for a while now - c’mon America, wake up…
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Jul 03:03
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Lol, it’s pseudoscientific propaganda. Don’t pretend Wilson isn’t controversial
kameecoding@lemmy.world
on 20 Jul 07:21
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In what world do people who have more power have it based on biology? You think trump is some biological specimen to get into power? Or is it the societal structure we created that allowed him to rise to power?
The hierarchical structure of humans is some literal right winger shit.
apotheotic@beehaw.org
on 20 Jul 09:08
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Not accusing you of anything, just find it funny how “look at it from a purely biological position” is exactly the line transphobes use
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 12:32
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Christ. I forgot that it’s impossible to speak about science online. I didn’t once insinuate that line of thinking.
Fuck this thread. I’m deleting it.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Jul 12:38
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Eh? I literally said I wasnt accusing you of anything and that I just found it funny
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 13:44
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I know. But this just leads to a dog pile on Lemmy. It already started. It’s impossible to discuss human evolutionary biology without emotions getting involved for exactly the reason you stated.
Because bad faith actors co-opted the language for their subverted messaging, it’s just a wash.
Hm no, the problem is much more at the roots of science than you think. Most of biology is based on humans’ biased assumptions and expectations. For example, only when queer theory was developed did biologists really grasp how much deviant the animal kingdom in regards to sex, gender and sexuality actually is.
Just think how many layers deep this is: humans exist -> develop social structures -> develop social constructs that feel essential -> try to describe their own biology through the lense of all the prior layers -> develop awareness about some social constructs -> revisit their own biology but still with a lot of biases
What you express by saying that it isn’t possible anymore to just speak about biology is imo rather an expression of denying certain advancements we’ve made. Our ideas and models of biology a few decades ago may have been simpler, but not more true. We’ve just realized to some extend how complex biology is and how our prior models have made many poor assumptions.
EO Wilson is having his own concepts and biases of human societies and projects them onto this pseudoscientific narrative. He is obviously not aware of his own position in society and how it shapes his assumptions.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 01:52
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My ex would say, “that rules like anarchy.” Cute.
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jul 11:31
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Postulated that humans are eusocial creatures similar to ants, termites, seahorses, and naked mole rats because we follow a hierarchical pecking order.
Source? Eusociality does not involve any sort of ‘hierarchical pecking order’. The requirements are co-operative childcare, overlapping generations and division of labour.
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Could you imagine the confusion if you are used to it though… you’ve considered this scent to mean dead your whole life. would be kind of like as a human noticing your heart isn’t beating, your skin is pale… realizing you are in a coffin and everyone’s performing a service… hmm… guess I am dead. course I guess that’s kind of the difference is humans aren’t so accepting of things. we could be unable to move, realize we are looking from the perspective of our head, which is on the ground 2’ away from the rest of our body and our first thought would be, "Hey can you hear me? Hello!!.
Depends on the human. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard's_syndrome
Side note: I am furious that I wasn’t able to find the name of this syndrome without ChatGPT. Is this a skill issue or are traditional search engines (in this case DuckDuckGo) just completely useless now?
I googled “human thinks he’s dead” and that Wikipedia page was the first result
well “skill issue” was one of the options so it might be that
Why “human”? Seems a weird way to phrase it but I can’t deny it works.
Well I don’t think you’d find it if you tried platypus
Normally these types of articles use more clinical verbiage
duckduckgo has become pretty worthless for search, ecosia is slightly better i think but without the privacy benefits. i have a local llm running in koboldcpp that i use if i really need to just bounce words off something while it nods along
Pretty much the whole Internet got worse in the last decade. Search engines are a pain to use nowadays.
seems like it might be skill issue in this case. a Google search for “medical condition person thinks they’re dead” gave it immediately
Traditional search engines are fucking garbage lately. You search for two words and it gives you generic results for whichever’s more popular. Or it decides a brief phrase, however generic, must mean exactly one thing, so you only see results related to a song by that title.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/91ec3c97-b262-412e-a55a-5c378e80575f.webp"> 🤷♂️
Honestly while I don’t like the AI searches, this instance maybe skill issue. Brain fart or smth
that seems to be the consensus, I’ve accepted it :P
Rookie move.
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Love me some pictures for sad children
Have another.
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Have a PNG version.
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And another.
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Have a picture of a signed physical copy.
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E.O. Wilson is a monster scientist. His book “The Ants” is mind-bogglingly thorough
Also, Social Conquest of Earth.
E.O. Wilson is my hero. More people should study his work for how to approach science. Passion and curiosity got him everywhere.
Well damn. I wasn’t expecting to be adding a new book to my reading list as a result of this thread, but y’all’s enthusiasm is such that I feel I have to.
“The Ants” isn’t casual reading, it’s a dense compendium of everything known about ants, covering every known genus and their morphology and behavior. There’s a key, too, so you can identify ants based on their morphology, assuming you ever feel like counting antennomeres or tarsal segments.
“journey to the ants” is a great book for anyone to check out
“Ed Wilson”
More commonly known as E. O. Wilson in his publications. Highly important scientist. Postulated that humans are eusocial creatures similar to ants, termites, seahorses, and naked mole rats because we follow a hierarchical pecking order.
Read his book “The Social Conquest of Earth” if this intrigues you.
Sounds like propaganda tbh
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That didn’t work out too well for the French monarchy, did it?
It’s more accurate to say that the average person doesn’t desire a power structure but merely tolerates it so long as it provides them with some benefit. The moment those structures become oppressive, they get violently torn down.
Its been pretty oppressive for a while now - c’mon America, wake up…
Lol, it’s pseudoscientific propaganda. Don’t pretend Wilson isn’t controversial
Also, I ain’t your pal, buddy!
Edit: I made this for you lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49396386
In what world do people who have more power have it based on biology? You think trump is some biological specimen to get into power? Or is it the societal structure we created that allowed him to rise to power?
The hierarchical structure of humans is some literal right winger shit.
Not accusing you of anything, just find it funny how “look at it from a purely biological position” is exactly the line transphobes use
Christ. I forgot that it’s impossible to speak about science online. I didn’t once insinuate that line of thinking.
Fuck this thread. I’m deleting it.
pussy
Eh? I literally said I wasnt accusing you of anything and that I just found it funny
I know. But this just leads to a dog pile on Lemmy. It already started. It’s impossible to discuss human evolutionary biology without emotions getting involved for exactly the reason you stated.
Because bad faith actors co-opted the language for their subverted messaging, it’s just a wash.
Hm no, the problem is much more at the roots of science than you think. Most of biology is based on humans’ biased assumptions and expectations. For example, only when queer theory was developed did biologists really grasp how much deviant the animal kingdom in regards to sex, gender and sexuality actually is.
Just think how many layers deep this is: humans exist -> develop social structures -> develop social constructs that feel essential -> try to describe their own biology through the lense of all the prior layers -> develop awareness about some social constructs -> revisit their own biology but still with a lot of biases
What you express by saying that it isn’t possible anymore to just speak about biology is imo rather an expression of denying certain advancements we’ve made. Our ideas and models of biology a few decades ago may have been simpler, but not more true. We’ve just realized to some extend how complex biology is and how our prior models have made many poor assumptions.
EO Wilson is having his own concepts and biases of human societies and projects them onto this pseudoscientific narrative. He is obviously not aware of his own position in society and how it shapes his assumptions.
This is absolute propaganda. Early human societies didn’t work like that. Hunter-gatherers didn’t work like that.
This is yet another “brutal selfish liberalism is hUmAn nAtUrE!!1!1!!1!” shit that was disproven in 1800s.
Not the anarchists
My ex would say, “that rules like anarchy.” Cute.
Source? Eusociality does not involve any sort of ‘hierarchical pecking order’. The requirements are co-operative childcare, overlapping generations and division of labour.
The source is racism: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-complicated-legacy-of-e-o-wilson/
Never meet your heroes, huh?
Lions are eusocial
I wonder what will happen if they put that chemical into an insecticide spray.
The walking ants.
Ants coming to bring you more dead ants. You will be the evil ant god.
I think a living human who smelled like a rotting corpse would be forced to go away from other people too.
Was this a House episode?
Probably not getting buried, though.
Probably.
In a lot of places in the US, a living human who smelled like a rotting corpse is going to catch 2 to the head.
Or be nominated a Secretary of Health and Human Services.
fist time in earth history to get a day off
You have a spray bottle of oleic acid
Who do you spray: Trump, JD Vance, RFK jr or Caroline Leavitt
Yes
Correct
For humans, I heard it say to use butyric acid.
RFK jr because funny
Yeah be he’s already half dead from the worm
not interested unless it’s fluoroantimonic acid
why doesn’t the ant that was sprayed on carry itself away.
It would be inappropriate for a dead ant to move.
They must
restlive in peace.smells itself
eh I guess I died…
What the hell happened to the ant? My god I dislike cliffhangers.
It says at the end. It hung out in the graveyard, then went back to work.
So It was all a convoluted plan to take a few days off, what a slacker!
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Did the lord’s work myself: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPw9dSV6y2c
Moving means partly alive, but partly alive means mostly dead, so off you go!
“I swear I’m not dead!”
“Yea we don’t care, you smell dead and it’s disgusting, leave until you take a bath”