Poisonous Frogs with Ants in their Pants
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 04 May 2025 19:08
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from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 04 May 2025 19:08
https://mander.xyz/post/29339388
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Isn’t that also how fugu gets its poison? I think the pufferfish grown on farms where their diet is regulated aren’t poisonous.
TIL… Thank you, kind stranger, for making me curious enough to look further
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu
Would’ve been funny, if a fish was somehow snacking ants on the regular. 🙃
yup, another toxin called batrachtoxin, comes from eating specific beetles, by the frogs. once they are fed from a non-beetle diet they arnt poisonous.
if it were something like a cane toad, they dont need other animals to make thier toxins.
I swear I had just gotten the bugsnax song out of my head. Back to square one.
Clearly it’s not that great of a poison
Thanks, ants.
Thants.
Look around you! Just look around you!
Then … how do ants become poisonous?
They eat even tinier frogs.
Frogs and ants all the way down
I mean, it’s gonna depend on the specific ant species. Some ants don’t sting at all. Some ants only have formic acid. Some ants’ venom tickles. Some ant venom can kill you.
But to quote Wikipedia for one of the latter, the Jack Jumper ant:
It then goes on to list all kinds of those compounds: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_jumper_ant#Venom
I don’t have much deeper knowledge than that, but at that point, it might as well be a mixture of some compounds that they ingest and some that they produce from simpler compounds. At the very least, they would need to ingest appropriate atoms/molecules in some form, like for example nitrogen, which is contained in relatively many of those compounds.
Many species of poison dart frogs derive their toxic compounds from ingesting mites! Even crazier, some molluscs like the Blue Angel sea slug (glaucus atlanticus) can ingest and weaponize the nematocysts from siphonophores like the Portuguese Man O’ War. Nature be crazy
I don’t like em puttin chemicals in the ants that turn the friggin frogs poisonous
First the thing with crows, and now this… Are we sure ants having figured out how to make computers and are now spreading propaganda online? 🤔