Immich mobile app sync V2 (immich.app)
from cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 19:28
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/54100874

cross-posted from: lemmy.bestiver.se/post/639591

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AceBonobo@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 20:02 next collapse

Any users here mind sharing their experience?

bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml on 25 Sep 20:09 next collapse

So far, so good? The initial rollout was rough, and the app kept reuploading my whole album and then realizing it was already there.

But since the flurry of hotfixes, its been smoother sailing

NinjaTurtle@feddit.online on 25 Sep 20:13 next collapse

Can’t really comment on the older versions since I recently deployed the server. However from the past couple of updates, the background syncing has improved on the Android version. Before I had to open the app for it to sync but recent updates now upload media without me having to open the app.

For the app itself, works pretty well. There still seems to be bugs or weird UI changes like adding to albums disappeared when you click a photo or video but its there on the grid view if you hold the file.

Overall it seems pretty stable and it has a dedicated app in both iOS and Android. Use to use nextcloud with memories before.

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 25 Sep 21:23 next collapse

My use case:

I use a Synology NAS to backup my photos/videos. On mobile, I use the Synology Photos app for 100% of the backups, because it’s been 100% reliable for me over the years.

I basically run Immich in read-only mode, and specifically for searches. The contextual search is incredible, and after putting it side-by-side with a very expensive Windows software that uses local AI search, it came out on top… no contest.

So in that sense, I’m very happy!

jaschen306@sh.itjust.works on 26 Sep 00:27 next collapse

Same here. Their recent antics has made me nervous about staying with them. But their photo software is great.

Railcar8095@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 04:34 collapse

Silly question, how does immich read from NAS? Is that a native functionality or do you mount it in docker?

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 15:02 collapse

Yes, when you mount the external library (when setting up docker), you can set it as read-only. 👌

randombullet@programming.dev on 25 Sep 22:34 next collapse

I run it on a VPS. Works great across oceans. Biggest gripe is that it doesn’t load local content first. It checks online and then pulls from those thumbnails. So if you have a weak or slow connection, then you’ll get a spinning wheel of death or assets that don’t load properly.

smiletolerantly@awful.systems on 26 Sep 04:48 collapse

That’s a setting

randombullet@programming.dev on 26 Sep 21:17 collapse

Client side or server side?

smiletolerantly@awful.systems on 27 Sep 05:33 collapse

Client side, under advanced:

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EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 00:50 next collapse

Well after reading this I just went to open the app and it now things none of my tens of thousands of photos are synced to the server, yet the sync icon at the top says there’s nothing to sync. So… not great today lol.

Overall it’s been a very buggy experience for a long time and evidently that’s not about to change anytime soon.

hikaru755@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 08:01 collapse

You might have to sign out and then in again. There was a bug with the initial release that caused this kind of behavior

crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org on 26 Sep 01:17 next collapse

As long as you keep the apps up to date both on your devices and the server, I’ve had zero issues with it!

I just wanted something similar to Google photos which i could set and forget, other than being a bit lazy with managing my NAS, it’s been flawless! Plus it’s the benefit that my data is staying with me 🥰

Lem453@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 03:06 next collapse

I’m on version 1.143.1 I skipped all the beta timeline stages and updated from 1.135 I think.

About 30k photos and 2k videos

The web interface was great, the android app (pixel 8) was very slow. Even local assets were slow.

Since update, its way faster. Feels really good, responsive, low latency. Sync and backups have been no issue at all.

Sync on android turned itself off after updating, but I turned it back on, selected the same folders to watch and it processed for a few mins and then everything continued to work with no issues.

On the previous version, sync was pretty good. Sometimes it didn’t trigger as a background process and i had to manually open the app but it worked. New sync also works well though haven’t yet uploaded a large number of things.

Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 03:41 next collapse

I’ve tried 3 or 4 times to set it up but I just can’t mount a folder within the same drive for immich to recognize. My next plan is install mint and immich on a separate drive and connect my photo drive as external to upload to immich.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 06:00 next collapse

The Android app finally works the way you’d expect it. The UI no longer lags due to syncing. Syncing is much faster and more reliable.

imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Sep 09:08 next collapse

Running minipc with immich pointed to NAS drive with photos. I had issues with uploading files in the background on previous version but it seems to be fixed right now.

happydoors@lemmy.world on 27 Sep 15:30 collapse

Immich is great. The iPhone app is not trustworthy with syncing photos and always freezes. It will get there eventually, if you have the patience for crashes on the iOS app. In fact, for the last week the app just hangs on open, which usually means I need to re-install the app and all that. I have a large library of over 60k photos/videos and an older phone, which doesn’t help. Despite these issues, it’s still great. Every other feature works flawlessly. I haven’t tried this new update but I am hopeful and glad they are pushing forward with cleaning up syncing!

Dave@lemmy.nz on 25 Sep 20:25 next collapse

I’m really happy to see this post acknowledge speed issues where there are many items, 100k+. I have around this and have always found Immich to be laggy, while others say how it’s the fastest ever.

I will have to give it another go.

cron@feddit.org on 25 Sep 20:28 collapse

I don’t think this feature is live yet, looks like it still needs some internal refinement. At least nothing like this was mentioned in the last few changelogs.

Dave@lemmy.nz on 25 Sep 20:34 collapse

I think you might be right. Others are talking about a rocky start but reading through the recent release notes it seems like a potentially unrelated issue with a release of a new timeline.

derry@midwest.social on 25 Sep 20:26 next collapse

Happy to share my experience. Pros: capable replacement for Google photos, Face recognition, location map, etc Support for albums and sharing. Support for reading folders from local network

Roll the dice on these, YMMV ( there are not really cons to me but I work in tech and deal with far worse things)

Actively being developed. Good- things are fixed, new features added. Bad, have to update the server regularly , multiple times some weeks.

Cost: free. You get what you pay for. There’s a donation cost, and I’ve been meaning to do that, but for free you may not get the help like for something you pay for. They do have an active community on Discord, so there’s that.

Editing in mobile client only.

Exposing to the Internet seems a bit tricky if you plan on doing it right ( securely) but you can use tail scale for external access, works fine.

I’ve been happy enough with it to turn off my google photo backup . Oh they do warn you to not to use this as your main backup since it’s under active development. Something what to consider. Hope this helps, happy to answer questions

Edit: cleaned up grammar for clarity

derry@midwest.social on 25 Sep 20:28 next collapse

If you’re just interested in the synch part, I’ve been using it without any issues for several months. Worked in a pixel 6a, upgraded to a pixel 8 pro and continued right where I left off

dataprolet@discuss.tchncs.de on 25 Sep 21:07 next collapse

What’s tricky about exposing it to the internet?

derry@midwest.social on 25 Sep 21:34 collapse

Depends, if you’re ok exposing an open port to the Internet then its not tricky at all, assuming you know how to port forward and are not double natted. They warn you to not do this though. I second that warning.

This page explains the 3 main options docs.immich.app/guides/remote-access/

Ideally you’d just do a reverse proxy, which is the most complex option. Tasks include getting a host, cert, and setting it up.

I went with tail scale, it was easy but requires an additional client component on every device and one in the server.

dataprolet@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Sep 08:16 collapse

I have a cheap VPS which is facing the internet and runs a reverse proxy. It’s connected to my home server via Tailscale and routes everything to the services on my homeserver. So I only expose http ports and also rely on the DDoS protection of the VPS provider.

suzucappo@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 15:35 collapse

The only caveat I see is updating the server/app regularly.

Updating is definitely recommended for sure but I find myself waiting between updates. I’m still running 1.134.0 and have been for a while just because I’m not having any issues and haven’t gotten around to it.

I agree with everything else here as I have had the same experience.

Edit: This recent update I will likely update to though.

Kirk@startrek.website on 25 Sep 20:26 next collapse

Anyone know of a good managed hosting (or vps) for Immich that doesn’t break the bank? I have about 5TB of photos/videos and I don’t feel safe without a remote backup. I played with self hosting and I really (really) like Immich but I keep Google photos/Drive just to ensure I won’t lose anything.

Dave@lemmy.nz on 25 Sep 20:39 next collapse

Local storage on a VPS is expensive, and I’ve never been happy with a lower powered server serving media. Personally I self-host and send a backup to Backblaze B2 for offsite (using Rclone).

I use Borgmatic for incremental, deduplicated backups but make sure you save your encryption key somewhere you can access it if your house burns down.

[deleted] on 25 Sep 22:24 collapse

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webghost0101@sopuli.xyz on 25 Sep 20:44 next collapse

Continue to self host, create a yearly backup on external harddrive which you keep offline at a trusted family members house.

victorz@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 20:50 next collapse

Good enough. Simple, cheap. Brilliant.

BaroqueInMind@piefed.social on 25 Sep 20:54 collapse

Anyone reading this have any suggestions as to where we all can source cheap high-volume drives, such as refurbs pulled from upgraded old racks?

kambusha@sh.itjust.works on 25 Sep 21:10 next collapse

I’m looking to source a cheap trusted family member if anyone has one going?

derry@midwest.social on 25 Sep 22:27 next collapse

Location?

victorz@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 05:25 collapse

Lots of families seem to be relocating these days for some reason… Maybe try reaching out there. 👍

qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website on 25 Sep 22:42 next collapse

I got one from goHardDrive on eBay (link). It was cheap enough, looks flawless, and knock on wood has been working fine.

Googling around, the brand gets…mixed reviews. My use case is such that of this drive fails it’s not a big deal.

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 23:48 collapse

serverpartdeals.com

xylol@leminal.space on 26 Sep 00:00 collapse

I have several of these and they been solid, before I would get refurb or open box from amazon and send them back if the smart failed, guessing a lot of people just stick their old drives in the box and return it so it wasn’t great

arcayne@lemmy.today on 27 Sep 00:36 collapse

Yeah serverpartdeals is legit. Between work and home, I think I’ve tested & deployed 150+ drives from them over the last 3yrs. No duds, no failures, no complaints. Great customer service on the corp side for big orders, too. 10/10 would recommend.

qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website on 25 Sep 22:48 next collapse

I do something similar — I have a raspberry pi and a HD, with daily rsync and snapshots (monthly retained indefinitely, weekly retained for a month, daily retained for a week). It’s at family’s house, connected to my home via WireGuard via a VPS. Tailscale (or anything really) would also work here.

It’s a great setup! Just have some watchdog reboot if it can’t talk to home (a simple cronjob with ping -c1 home.lan || reboot or similar).

Even our “slow” 35Mbps upload speed is way more than enough for incremental rsyncs of my Immich library. The initial sync was done in person, though.

papertowels@mander.xyz on 25 Sep 23:34 collapse

I remember before, you could use crashplan to easily backup to a computer at a friend’s house and vice versa. Anyone know any similar tools? The biggest requirement would be that it’s easy enough to use that someone who doesn’t know what “self hosting” is can do it.

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 25 Sep 23:51 collapse

Syncthing.

syncthing.net

But keeping the service live at all times isn’t really a backup.

papertowels@mander.xyz on 26 Sep 00:07 next collapse

As someone who tried syncthing with their non-self hosting friends, let me tell you, that edit folder option is terrifying for the general public lol

I guess you can do "local"backups then syncthing them over, but thats a bit contrived

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 20:04 collapse

BitTorrent sync.

brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Sep 00:18 collapse
chisel@piefed.social on 25 Sep 20:45 next collapse

If you’re fine with self hosting, you can just self host it and backup your local drives to a remote location. That’s what I do.

For backup software, I use Duplicacy. But Veeam, Borg, etc.. would work just fine. For images, since they’re just static files and you don’t really need a version history, you could get away with a scheduled rsync job. Though, technically that leaves you more at risk of ransomeware or something that overwrites your data.

For remote storage, I’d first consider a Hetzner storage box since they are flat-rate pricing and pretty dang cheap at $13/mo for 5TB. You might also consider StorJ, B2, S3, etc… I’d just stay away from any lesser known ultra-cheap storage providers.

qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website on 25 Sep 22:52 collapse

Though, technically that leaves you more at risk of ransomeware or something that overwrites your data.

I rsync as well, but use snapshotting on the remote drives. So, a bad rsync would suck but shouldn’t really result in data loss. Ransomware on my local+remote server would of course be very bad…

utjebe@reddthat.com on 25 Sep 21:11 next collapse

At such volume it is difficult to come up a service that does not break a bank. Storage is expensive.

Perhaps immich + monthly backups to S3 glacier. That is if you don’t have a second and third site available

Kirk@startrek.website on 25 Sep 21:16 collapse

Yeah it sucks because Microsoft charges $10/mo for 6tb.

randombullet@programming.dev on 25 Sep 22:35 next collapse

Reverse proxy if your home internet is decent.

50mbps upload is fine for me.

I had it running on a mini PC with 8tb of storage, but I couldn’t get the latency down to where I want it, so I moved it to a VPS.

Kirk@startrek.website on 25 Sep 23:02 collapse

Problem with that is there is no backup in case of flood/fire/tornado etc.

brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Sep 00:17 next collapse

I just have my data folder and database being copied to backblaze. It’s relatively cheap. Most hosting providers don’t necessarily do backup unless you configure that on your own anyway.

lightsblinken@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 00:56 collapse

rsync.net is awesome.

BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 03:49 collapse

That’s what I do. 1.6TB currently on rsync.net, only my personal artifacts excluding all media that can be reacquired and it’s a reasonable $10/mo. Synced daily at 4am.

If I wanted my backups to include my media collection or anything exceeding several TB, I would build a second NAS and drop it at my parents’.

[deleted] on 25 Sep 22:58 next collapse

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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 25 Sep 23:36 next collapse

There are products that will let you back up onto your buddy’s free space and vice-versa, but the simplest pricy thing you can do is to drop a NAS at a friend’s place and set up a VPN.

But maybe the monthly fee is okay for now. Maybe consider proton for files instead?

jaschen306@sh.itjust.works on 26 Sep 00:30 next collapse

I have 10tb and just ended up getting a 8 bay Synology. Practically turnkey and the photo app is pretty nice. A work of warning. Once your photos get to around 7tb, the photo system sometimes crashes. I spoke to a dev at Synology and there is a fix coming.

philpo@feddit.org on 26 Sep 05:51 next collapse

Layer 7 storage servers might be what you are looking for.

UnfairUtan@lemmy.world on 26 Sep 07:33 collapse

I use Netcup VPS

Kirk@startrek.website on 26 Sep 14:17 collapse

Wow, 7tb for $21/month. That’s much better than I’ve been seeing.

tuckerm@feddit.online on 26 Sep 02:14 next collapse

I’m using immich and really like it, but I’m not using the Android app. I have synthing on my phone, and I let syncthing send the photos to my server. Then Immich detects the files in the syncthing folder.

Is there any benefit to using the app? Or would using the app be basically the same thing that I’m doing now?

SavoryBaconStrip@lemmy.ml on 26 Sep 02:30 next collapse

The app is pretty similar to Google Photos. You can search locations, people, etc. It’s cool and works well enough, but I just use it as a secondary backup. Google Photos is still primary for me for now. I’d recommend giving it a try though. You can use the app without syncing anything just to see what it looks like first.

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Sep 02:57 next collapse

The app let’s you see/search all your photos, I have a ton of photos not on my phone.

tuckerm@feddit.online on 26 Sep 16:08 collapse

Ah, gotcha. That’s a use case I hadn’t thought of. Mine is just the photo backup for my current phone, so when I have my phone with me, I can see all of the photos on the phone itself.

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Sep 01:16 collapse

Yeah in that case the app is just handy for searching or viewing photos by face.

Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 03:37 collapse

Oops wrong thread

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Sep 03:00 next collapse

I’ve never had any issues with the old setup oddly enough, they talk like it barely functions lol

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl on 26 Sep 08:34 next collapse

Me too, and the new one I didn’t even realize this change happened. I saw there were no breaking changes, updated, and saw “oh, it isn’t synced anymore” so I reselected the folders, it ran a sync check on everything, which took a while, and everything works fine again.

I didn’t even realize there was a difference until now, but I guess there is a start/stop sync switch.

imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Sep 09:05 next collapse

I had issues uploading big files to it due to it stopping uploading once app is minimized. As long as app is open on screen, it would upload files with no interruption. New version seems to fix this issue for me.

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Sep 15:16 collapse

Interesting, background sync was completely broken on the new beta timeline for me. I had to open the app, and disable then reenable sync every time I had new photos.

I’m back on the old version because it’s basically 100% reliable.

imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Sep 14:35 collapse

I had same issue gut relog helped to fix it

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 26 Sep 14:58 collapse

The app can be basically unresponsive (my experience) as it’s checking to make sure everything is synced. It’s gotten much better over the last few months and the beta experience was wonderful it just broke (app side) a few times and told me an asset wasn’t uploaded even though it was.

Jason2357@lemmy.ca on 26 Sep 11:09 next collapse

Does the app clear storage space on your phone ever? Last I looked, it only mirrored pictures to Immich, so everyone’s phone eventually fills up storage. Had to stick with Nextcloud because it deletes after uploading.

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 26 Sep 14:56 next collapse

It doesn’t actively delete but there’s an option to delete from device

Schlemmy@lemmy.ml on 27 Sep 08:18 collapse

You can, manually. Sounds worse than it is.

kossa@feddit.org on 26 Sep 16:32 collapse

Question for the Immich users: if I have two users A and B, who share all pictures. Can user A create an album with pictures from user B? That doesn’t work with Nextcloud and is grinding my gears!

happydoors@lemmy.world on 27 Sep 15:39 collapse

Yes, you can. You can share an album and collaboratively each add to it or you can share the entire library and take photos directly out of theirs and add to a new album. So I believe you can accomplish what you want. Just tested it with my wife and I’s accounts.

kossa@feddit.org on 27 Sep 16:38 collapse

Awesome, thank you. Then I’ll give it a try, that would solve a headache of several years.