What do you use for notes?
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cross-posted from: lemmy.selfhostcat.com/post/93395
I’ve gone handwritten, obsidian, onenote, and now Trilium. Considering switching to something else because there is no offline mobile support.
I use memos and trilium together but since neither offers mobile offline support considering switching both. No reason to run two services when I could run one.
Considering:
- Joplin
- Logseq
- SiYuan
- ?
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Nextcloud. But only because I already have it. I wouldn’t set it up just for that.
Obsidian, or a normal txt
I use Joplin. The functionality is nice, but visually the app looks a little outdated in my opinion. It’s worth it though.
Same, the builtin sync between devices using WebDAV was the critical feature for me choosing Joplin over Obsidian.
Just a folder + syncthing. no extra infra is necessary + easy to backup.
I did too with the joplin sync server until, without a failure or any error messages, it ate all my notes.
I use Joplin. It’s fairly simple and very comparable to Evernote if you’ve ever used that, but it’s perfect for my needs.
I used LogSeq before, it’s very similar to Obsidian, the big difference being that it’s open source. It’s got a ton of features and the built-in whiteboard is actually really good, but I found it a bit overkill for my simple note taking.
Trillium. It works well via browser and reasonably on a mobile browser.
Obsidian is excellent but I can’t install any applications on my work computer and the web hosted version was buggy and slow. If I didn’t have IT blocking me I’d be using Obsidian again.
I’ve tried 'em all. And I am always on the lookout for new apps that can do what I want. So far, Obsidian is the best.
Joplin: adds meta data to your text files making it nearly impossible to find anything outside of Joplin unless you export
Logseq: the closest substitute to Obsidian. The android app is almost unusable in my testing. And it’s an outlined based note app, so it requires a different mindset
Silverbullet: such a neat project. The PWA runs great on every device I’ve tried it on. That said, I find it hard to navigate and will require more learning to take full advantage of its features
Nextcloud Notes: decent if you already have an instance running. Not worth it just for Notes though. It’s very spartan, feature-wise
Quillpad: the closest Google Keep alternative I’ve found so far. Does require Nextcloud insurance to sync though. At least currently.
Acreom: very cool project. Similar to Obsidian and Logseq. Local first…unless you’re on mobile, then you are required to have an account and use their sync.
Notesnook: has great features but does not store the notes on plain text (due to encryption), which is a deal breaker for my use case
Memos: very easy to selfhost. Think of it like a personal twitter feed. Stores entries in a db file, so it’s out for me
I tested others, and many didnt last long enough in my testing to even be worth writing about. I find Obsidian’s folder hierarchy easier to fit around how my brain works. And the plain text files in folders, maintaining the hierarchy, is a killer feature for me. Lots of folks self host a sync solution. And I want to but am currently paying for their basic sync plan of $5/mo.
Silverbullet for web access (including mobile pwa) and syncthing + markor on android.
Yes syncthing is well and alive on android (to prevent the usual posting “its dead on android”, no it’s not)
Joplin has a pretty slow UI and it doesn’t save notes in standard markdown format.
Why not use the silverbullet pwa on android?
On android I prefer native apps.
I use logseq. But I’m not entirely happy. Automation of processes is a pain in the ass. Mobile is buggy.
Flat notes. I’ve tried a bunch of different more complex apps but I keep coming back to flat notes.
As in a folder of text files? Because that's what I'm doing. Syncing across devices with Syncthing and editing/adding files with whatever markdown editor works best in each platform.
I assume github.com/dullage/flatnotes
Ah, makes sense!
I kinda like joplin’s groupable notes… then again “flat” is in the name… maybe… interesting…
Yes, thanks for linking
Orgzly + Syncthing
A Textbook
I use obsidian but I wish there was an open source notes platform that could do what I want:
I have tried so many notetaking tools and the closest I ever got was using xournalpp for PDF annotation and drawing, then writing plain markdown in helix / neovim, with a live markdown rendering pane on the side. Was just too clunky though.
Nextcloud notes is just my life now.
If you’re considering (something) + Syncthing, try Orgmode. It looks like Markdown but has a lot of features for note management and navigation.
Obsidian + syncthing on both my computer and android phone. I love that I can selectively sync certain folders to my phone so not everything is there slowing it down.
I want to like logseq but all the bullet points feels weird to me.
Logseq is also really really slow once you have a lot of notes unfortunately.
I haven’t experienced that at all and I embed all kinds of pictures and links in my 2-3 years of grad school + personal notes. How many is “a lot” to you?
If it genuinely is a logeq problem did you ever try splitting notes into multiple graphs for different topics?
I use Obsidian with the obsidian-live sync docker container to sync data between devices instantaneously. It is not open source but they store plaintext markdown notes and its extendable with plenty of open source plugins.
I’ve used a bunch, but I eventually moved to SilverBullet and will probably stick with it.
I’ve used Logseq for 2-3 years but it’s slow and a pain to use on mobile. I discovered Tiddlywiki in December, I love how customizable it is, but it’s been taking me a while to tweak it to match my usual workflow. Running it via nodejs server on android (termux) and laptops (so I’m accessing it on localhost on all devices) and syncing the wikis between devices using Syncthing.
I currently have some notes in Nextcloud notes which I quite like. I don’t need anything too fancy. Markdown is nice to have, but not required if there is some ui way to make checkboxes. If I remember correctly, in the nextcloud notes app you have to set the folder that it uses. Which makes shared notes impractical, if not impossible.
Because of this, I still have several notes shared with my wife in Google keep for things like shopping lists. I’m tempted to test out the shopping list function in home assistant, but not sure if it will fit the needs. Would be nice to find something that covers all my use cases in one app.
In Nextcloud you can use Deck or Collections for shared notes.
Thanks, I’ll have a look!
It depends on the notes, for me:
I’ve had an oddly long-running obsession with Tiddlywiki!
It has a bit of a learning curve, but it’s VERY flexible. My favorite part being that by default it’s just a single, portable, HTML file. No special app required besides a browser, no accounts, and you can just sync it like any other file. (Syncthing, Nextcloud, and friends)
There’s also an app called Tiddloid for Android to make managing and saving a little easier, but they open in any browser.
I have a Tiddlywiki that I use like one might use Obsidian, where I just stash stuff I’ll want to remember and maybe link between similar ideas.
And then I’m currently trying to use it to make a solution to sketch out my Savage Worlds RPG campaigns. It gets a little tricky but you can make templates, script buttons, and that kind of thing. If you’re already comfortable with web stuff you’ll probably catch on WAY better than I have.
You can also host it as a website, or on your server or whatever, to use it like any other wiki. There’s also plugins to use Markdown instead of “wikitext.”
There’s also an excellent guide to learning it at groktiddlywiki.com/read/ . It’s basically an online workbook using Tiddlywiki itself!
The community is also super helpful. I do wish it had a little more out of the box, but something about a customizable, portable, digital “notebook” that doesn’t require an account or hopefully-supported-in-5-years application is SUPER appealing to me. It’s quite underrated.
Also just for fun I wanted to share my favorite example someone’s been working on for quite some time now, a heavily customized D&D wiki
intrinsical.github.io/wiki/index.html
Tiddlywiki can be a bit dense and the documentation is slowly improving, but there’s so much potential!
org-roam but logseq is good too.
github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder
For notes??
Yep. Moved away from Google Keep, wanted similar features and this worked for my needs. Seems others hate it for some reason though.
Could you explain how and why you use it for notes? I thought it was more for links
Did you use a docker compose yml? Could you please share that and how to do the env? I got it running but couldn’t get the env things running.
I’m using https://anytype.io/. Offline applications for all major systems, synchronization out of the box.
I’ve been using this, as well. They default to hosting your “vault.” It does peer-to-peer syncing, if you don’t want to have a server involved at all. I’m running their self-hosted server, but that’s only after I decided that AnyType was what I was looking for. I really like that it’s object based, so you can create templates for things like meetings that are their own type, separate from a bog-standard page.
How was setting up the server? I’m on my phone right now so so I’ll check out the docs later but were there any problems deploying?
A little rough, to be honest. It’s a docker-compose deployment, but it requires you to run
make
to deploy it. The makefile does extra configuration and such to allow the containers to come up healthy. It works, but it’s overcomplicated and styled after their own deployments, so probably way more compute than what is needed for one household.Oh and because of this protracted topology, it’s tough to hide behind a reverse proxy.
I use Joplin for day-to-day: to-dos, journals etc. I like Joplin, but I haven’t tried the others. I tend to be sticky with services, if something “works” I don’t go looking for better. Only when I have a specific problem I can’t solve do I branch out.
I use bookstack for documentation on the server, faqs guides, updates etc. perhaps that works for others. The lack of android app is what moved me to Joplin.
Obsidian.md + paying for sync.
Transitioned from a mix of Keep + OneNote + Obsidian.md to just Keep (hidden todo list feature I utilize to keep track of shipping orders I have yet to receive) and obsidian.md (I have yet to import my old personal and work KB into the synced KB).
My other option was NotesNook
Heres my thread: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/34370838
Also Obsidian but with syncthing
Syncthing on my home server, synced with each device I use for notetaking, has been glorious so far. I wish Obsidian would offer Sync for a cheaper rate, because I’d pay if it felt like anything near the cost of actual sync and storage. But Obsidian’s cheapest tier is more expensive than my email hosting!
Woah! Yeah it is! Well nearly. I pay $50/yr for my email. Obsidian is $48/yr for sync. My email even comes with WebDAV which if it were a better protocol could do the syncing! Haha
I expected obsidian to not store the kb locally with bare files but more like in a microsoft cloud-like approach.
Oh well. At least it’s stable and has partly a transactional sync history.
Mostly just copious amounts of “new tab” in notepad++
I use joplin with joplin server running through a reverse proxy in a docker container. I love it. It also supports encryption, so you could use a more convenient service like Google drive and still be assured of your privacy.
I use Joplin. They have a sync server you can host for yourself.
300 page 5 subject 5-star branded binder for actual schoolwork
for personal scheduling/journaling?
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Same. I’m addicted. I literally have 5 strewn about me right now.
I use a brand called “decomposition” books, I guess because they’re made with recycled paper.
TXT files I sync with syncthing.
Use amaze file manager built in txt editor on android and vim on desktop.
I’ve been using logseq with syncthing for sync, across laptop/desktop/Android. Works ok, app can be a little chunky though and sometimes the manualness of coding queries can. E annoying. I have used joplin, trillium, Zim and a few others in the past. Installed silver bullet as a try too but haven’t gotten far into playing with it
Org-mode in emacs.
There are various mobile clients.
If you have something to synch files, it’s just syncing org files. Probably mostly interesting to people who use a lot of emacs on a PC, though.
Mobile offline sync is a lost cause. The dev environment, even on Android, is so hostile you’ll never get a good experience.
Joplin comes close, but it’s still extremely unreliable and I’ve had many dropped notes. It also takes hours to sync a large corpus.
I wrote my own web app using Axum and flask that I use. Check out dokuwiki as well.
Obsidian with syncthing for syncing between my phone and PC.
This is what I’m using and I haven’t found any reason to switch yet.
Yup. It’s a shame they don’t natively support cloud solutions like iCloud, which is what leads to workarounds like syncthing. It’s because they want to push their paid cloud option instead. But I also recognize that iCloud and their cloud hosting isn’t self-hosted, so it wouldn’t really fit here.
I’ve used Joplin for years. IDK why people have a hate on for it, it’s fine.
Obsidian and it syncs to my home server
I’ve been happy with joplin, I leave it on my nextcloud
Oh I’m ashamed of this one, but notability on a second hand iPad for handwritten and otherwise notion. I’m sorry but nothing has its polish, goodnotes just isn’t good enough and doesn’t have enough setting to make it good either. I refuse to use one note. In regards to notion it’s the sharing and collaboration features that are killer.
Remnote, sadly i believe there are substantially better places for sync capable noting but theyre all either paid or use third party bs like gdrive. Need joplin and proton drive to work something out!
Recently discovered KleverNotes by KDE, while only a desktop app it’s really really nice! It’s dead simple and straight to the point markdown editor. Recommend folks to check it out.
Nextcloud notes, it gets the job done 👍
Joplin synched with syncthing (or Synchthing.fork on android).
I do the same, but I’ve run into a bottleneck where Joplin syncs encrypted notes really, really slowly to local storage. So looking to switch to hosted Joplin server
Apparently I’m in the minority, but I love Logseq. I’ve used it with Syncthing for personal notes and grad school for the past three years with no hiccups. Maybe my success with it is partially due to nested bullet points already being how my brain works but the default paradigm is perfect for me.
The plain markdown files are organized reasonably, so I can straight up use Vim as my notes editor if I want.
Tags (#) create a new page to easily circle back to topics later without interrupting your thought pattern to make that structure manually. Once you leave edit mode for the line the tag becomes a link to that page. Some of my favorites are #clothes-that-fit (where I can easily embed a picture of the tag of what I’m trying on to look for deals online later), or #reading-list.
It’s just so useful.
Joplin on a docker macvlan thru NGNIX proximanager via some proxied website name from cloud flare. My phone goes to the mynotes.website.com name, it gets proxied to my IP, the traffic hits my NGNIX server, then it tosses it to Joplin. Lol it works.
I really want a FOSS solution for my notetaking, but I feel like I want too much. I love how well OneNote works with my Surface in terms of drawing notes, but I also love writing notes in Markdown and graph structure. I’ve at least been trying out Dendron for the latter, and it’s been alright.
@nek0d3r @ocean how about StandardNotes?
It doesn’t look like you can draw in your notes, but this looks good! I think I might give it a try.
Logseq!
Much better solution than Joplin, no database or cryptic file names, just plain markdown files on every device you can imagine. Simple and future proof.
I use text files and grep
Yeah, haha. 😂
Wait a moment… 🤔
Emacs. Org. Mode.
Use Orgzly Revived for mobile sharing.
I use Logseq in my PC and my phone and I unse Syncthing to sync the notes accross my devices.
Obsidian with synchronization to my Nextcloud instance
Obsidian with syncthing works offline.
Obsidian with paid sync feature. Have obsidian on multiple computers and devices and don’t have to deal with setup or management of the sync process.