Bethesda finally put proper ladders in a game, so of course players have dedicated themselves to designing Starfield ships without any (www.pcgamer.com)
from ylai@lemmy.ml to starfield@lemmy.zip on 21 Sep 2023 09:17
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ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 10:10 next collapse

“Proper”

Wodge@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 14:28 collapse

Well, they are ladders, with rungs and all that, and not just something to interact with to go to a loading transition.

ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 16:08 collapse

I know, I’m being nitpicky haha

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Sep 2023 10:13 next collapse

Ladders are annoying as fuck in ships, that’s why. It’s essentially a mini cutscene you can rewind. Hell, even Minecraft has a better ladder system.

all-knight-party@kbin.run on 21 Sep 2023 11:03 next collapse

I just boost pack up the hole, anyone actually trying to use the ladders would be silly

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 12:12 next collapse

Sure, but even that is a pain when you’re trying to get through a ship quickly. And if there’s 2 ladders stacked and you miss the ledge grab on the second? Chutes and ladders, motherfucker.

all-knight-party@kbin.run on 21 Sep 2023 13:43 next collapse

It sure is a bitch with two stacked ladders, I have a ship like that but everything on the third floor is just crew station habs with nothing I need to access, I kept all the important shit on the main level, that's all just stat boosting going on up there

Zehzin@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 14:34 collapse

Y’all are actually walking through the ship and not just teleporting everywhere?

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 15:45 collapse

I was before I discovered you can access the cargo hold from the pilots chair, but also I like to nap to refresh the xp boost before getting off the ship.

serv@lemmy.ca on 21 Sep 2023 17:38 collapse

Hold up! What? How do you access the cargo from the pilot chair?

Blaidd@lemm.ee on 21 Sep 2023 17:59 collapse

Open your inventory and you can push a button to switch to the ship. It works anywhere on the ship. If you aren’t sure which button opens the ship’s cargo (I have it set to Q but I think that’s a custom keybinding) it will say at the bottom of the inventory screen which button to press to open the cargo hold.

You can also access the ship’s cargo when interacting with merchants and sell things directly from the ship.

neoman4426@kbin.social on 21 Sep 2023 18:36 next collapse

Not just anywhere on the ship, have full access to the ship inventory to transfer to and from it if you're within ~250 meters of it which can be helpful if you grab too much in one of those places that'll let you land pretty close to a building or whatever

serv@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 03:01 collapse

What?! 🤯

I’ve wasted so much time getting in and out of the ship for this 🤦🏻

serv@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 03:01 collapse

Thanks!

JFowler369@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 12:15 collapse

Yeah that was my thought when I read this article. I used the ladder once, thought never again, and just started jumping up. Only issue is a double ladder but those are better avoided anyway.

variants@possumpat.io on 21 Sep 2023 12:28 next collapse

I hate that you can’t turn around or shoot from them, going up the ladder while three people are shooting you all nice and calm then turning around like a Terminator

pimento64@sopuli.xyz on 21 Sep 2023 13:27 collapse

It should be stated for comparison purposes that you could shoot from ladders in Half-Life.

25 years ago.

emptyother@programming.dev on 22 Sep 2023 11:12 collapse

To be fair that ladder climbing didnt have an animation. You just floated up or down.

Not that I need an animation in a singleplayer first person game. I’d rather not have any third person stuff at all.

Its_Always_420@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 12:38 next collapse

My favorite part is when you get to the top of the ladder and the cutscene ends just in time for you to fall back down into the hole.

JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 15:31 next collapse

I use a balanced boostpack to get through the ladder holes and thus ascend the floors faster.

One of these days, I want to create a ship that’s shaped suspiciously like the mothership from Homeworld (basically built like a tower rather than a flat building), just for kicks (and to test whether this tactic works with multiple floors in the same ladder chamber)

thesprongler@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 15:57 collapse

If only we could place a puddle of water at the bottom of our ladders.

zepheriths@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 13:00 next collapse

“finally”? The came out 15 days ago. That’s not that long

PoopingCough@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 13:43 next collapse

They mean it’s the first Bethesda game to have proper ladders, not that they’ve only been recently added to starfield.

M137@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:02 collapse

How are you this dumb?

squid@feddit.uk on 21 Sep 2023 13:05 next collapse

I wish for 0g in ships while in space. Would fix many issues and make it more of a sim

Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 14:09 next collapse

I wish you could turn it off but isn’t the lore explanation the grav drive giving artificial gravity? Or did I Mendela effect something.

squid@feddit.uk on 21 Sep 2023 17:28 collapse

They need to make up they’re mind on grav drive being law or mechanic as when I remove all power from grav I’m still feet on the ground

M137@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:01 next collapse

Why do you hate basic grammar? It seriously hurt to read your comment.

squid@feddit.uk on 22 Sep 2023 12:49 collapse

Well I’ve got dyslexia so thats a good reason I guess but its also my strength as I had to work a lot harder to get to where I am

Hope next time you feel the need to act upset over something so trivial youll be less of a dick

docclox@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:55 collapse

Arguably, the grav drive and the artificial gravity in the ships are two separate subsytems. You power the grav drive, that’s just charging it to jump. The artifical gravity seems to persist for as long as the power plant isn’t completely destroyed.

Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 14:10 next collapse

Mild spoilers. There’s a few levels where it’s zero g. Some random encounters where you raid a enemy ship, it’s zero g and when you reach the captain’s chair, you turn the gravity back on and all the doohickeys like pencils and mugs fall down in a really satisfying way.

dudewitbow@lemmy.ml on 21 Sep 2023 15:20 next collapse

I thought that one random spacestation where gravity turned on and off every 10 seconds was pretty interesting puzzle wise.

squid@feddit.uk on 21 Sep 2023 15:27 collapse

If you knock out someone’s grav drive before boarding youll have 0g, I often aim for it lol

DarkThoughts@kbin.social on 21 Sep 2023 15:51 collapse

I think that happens if you damage the grav drive before boarding but I'm not entirely sure.

[deleted] on 22 Sep 2023 04:57 collapse

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Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 14:07 next collapse

And here I am where I built my capital ship before restarting that had 4 ladders stacked on 1 area…=_=

Affidavit@aussie.zone on 21 Sep 2023 15:02 next collapse

There’s some weird bug with a ladder in one of my ships. There’s a hole at the bottom of the ladder that drops down to the ground floor (with no corresponding ladder itself). This means I need to select the ladder from an angle or start climbing all over again.

I might check this build out once I meet the requirements.

DarkThoughts@kbin.social on 21 Sep 2023 15:53 next collapse

Doesn't help that ladder animations, among others, are simply way too slow.

[deleted] on 22 Sep 2023 03:40 next collapse

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Cethin@lemmy.zip on 22 Sep 2023 04:54 collapse

Yep. I avoided them. I just used my jetpack and climbed up like that.

Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 21 Sep 2023 16:15 next collapse

I don’t understand the trend of games making ladder animations super slow for ladders in places players are supposed to use often. Any game that instantly teleports you to the top or bottom of a ladder, regardless of how much it breaks immersion, gets an A in my book rather than spending 30 seconds climbing up one story in an area that I have to ladder to frequently

jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works on 21 Sep 2023 18:43 next collapse

immersion

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 22 Sep 2023 06:33 next collapse

I just use my power boost pack and jump up.

Blamemeta@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 15:19 collapse

Its realistic. A normal human carrying 10 weapons, ammo, a ton of drugs, etc, is not going to get up a ladder quickly.

Still bad gameplay

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 22 Sep 2023 06:31 collapse

Personally, I haven’t really found a way to connect rooms above rooms in a way that uses the ladder position I actually want. Its just random, which is annoying because most of the time it doesn’t give me a single ladder that connects all the floors, it connects 2 or 3 at one spot, another 2 at another, etc. It’s fucking dumb. I mean, I could use the single room pieces for this, but that looks ugly and is otherwise totally unnecessary.