Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall (www.vg247.com)
from ylai@lemmy.ml to starfield@lemmy.zip on 10 Jun 21:22
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tal@lemmy.today on 10 Jun 21:27 next collapse

I mean, that’s basically just paid DLC, and I’m not complaining about there being paid DLC for the Fallout series and Skyrim. I’m fine with content being sold.

But I would like the value to be reasonable. A lot of game developers that sell content in small chunks sell a pretty minimal amount of content for pretty significant prices.

Kaboom@reddthat.com on 10 Jun 21:34 next collapse

Its worse than that. They added an entire questline, gave you the first quest, and then charged 7 dollars per quest!

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 10 Jun 21:47 next collapse

Howards gone off the rails. He’s a corpo hack. Always was, but now he can shed the leather jacket and McDuck dive into his pool of Creation Coins with no shame.

cholesterol@lemmy.world on 10 Jun 23:13 next collapse

What’s the total price, then?

Kaboom@reddthat.com on 10 Jun 23:17 collapse

Who knows? It’s an early access paid mod, meaning they only did the first two quests, and promised more.

A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 17:18 collapse

To continue this quest, please insert credit card.

To access this quest location, please insert credit card.

To complete this quest, please insert credit card.

Coasting0942@reddthat.com on 11 Jun 00:03 next collapse

If I’m reading it right, it’s a quest framework and one quest is free, the other is paid. So it sounds like we’ll be able to completely ignore the quest if you never visit CC content in the first place.

For free mod purposes, sounds like it should be easier for mod makers to create bounty hunting quests.

Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 00:40 next collapse

Yes you’re reading it perfectly, Bethesda as usual actually isn’t being as money hungry as they could’ve.

People still gonna hate though, that Starfield/Bethesda hate train is way too well entrenched.

Lobreeze@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 13:51 collapse

Why defend Bethesda? They ain’t your friend. You get nothing out of it.

Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:02 collapse

Because I don’t think they’re as shitty as people claim? And I understand that Bethesda isn’t just a shitty group of corporate managers, but also a team of people who have devoted their lives to these franchises.

Kaboom@reddthat.com on 11 Jun 11:22 collapse

They put the intro guy at the entrance to cydonia, the only way to avoid it is dont upgrade to the latest patch.

Coasting0942@reddthat.com on 11 Jun 11:58 collapse

The intro guy to the second quest? Or the intro to the bounty quest framework?

Kaboom@reddthat.com on 11 Jun 12:39 collapse

Intro to the questline. And it’s not a framework, it’s a questline.

off_brand_@beehaw.org on 11 Jun 21:22 collapse

$7, but you a only spend $10 at a time! It ain’t gonna be 10 quests or 5 quests. It’s gonna be like 3 or six so you’ll be left with $9 in coins and feel like you’re wasting cash if you don’t spend another $10 to buy some other creation club shit.

God I fucking hate the premium currency tactic.

dragThruGardenPlz@midwest.social on 10 Jun 21:37 next collapse

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natecox@programming.dev on 10 Jun 22:27 next collapse

Damn, I was just thinking of giving SF another shot. Guess it wasn’t meant to be.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 02:09 collapse

aw man, cant play this game it has optional paid content 😔

natecox@programming.dev on 11 Jun 02:30 next collapse

It’s funny how people will chant “vote with your wallet” but when someone votes against business practices they don’t agree with using their wallet they’re all surprised pikachu about it.

Charging per quest in a micro transaction scheme (which isn’t really micro at a $10 entry fee) is shitty and I don’t want to support it by pumping their gameplay numbers right after announcing it.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 03:06 collapse

i agree. i also never picked up cyberpunk because of the same reason. also rock band or guitar hero for its hiding content behind paywalls. i just stop playing 99% of games actually

natecox@programming.dev on 11 Jun 14:22 collapse

Fun fact: when you need to resort to hyperbole it’s a good indicator that your position may not have merit.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 16:31 collapse

it’s not that hyperbolic you’re just on a hate train 😂😂😂

or do you really think not all games have paid content? especially the ones i mentioned?

natecox@programming.dev on 11 Jun 21:36 collapse

I think there’s a very clear and distinctive difference between an upfront, honest cost for a content pack; and breaking that content pack into itty bitty bits and charging for each.

The latter has an obvious goal of obfuscating the total cost of the content pack, so as to inflate it past what their market research indicates people would normally be willing to pay.

It’s dishonest and anti-consumer, and it’s foolish as the consumer not to push back against this practice before it becomes normal.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 21:45 collapse

i can see that definitely. but i also look at it at the way nearly every other game is already selling content like that but without the quest attached to it. i dont think its worth 7 bucks. too expensive. but i also dont think its a total outrage personally. then again i didnt even have to pay for it because i got 1000 free credit things. if i didnt get those, i wouldnt have bothered buying it

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 03:04 next collapse

After the shit show of a release that was starfield, yeah, I’ll avoid playing the game with optional paid content that reeks of greed.

MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 20:24 next collapse

You deserve the downvotes here, just wanted to make that clear.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 20:43 collapse

why? please explain the reasoning

MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml on 12 Jun 03:06 collapse

No.

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 04:29 collapse

i knew it. you had no reason. you just felt like being an asshole. i hope it brightened your day to post such a pointless comment 😃

thessnake03@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 01:39 collapse

I just want that sense of pride and accomplishment

Inui@lemmy.ml on 12 Jun 03:31 collapse

There was a quest like this in the original Dragon Age. A dwarf merchant in your camp who told you about a quest but then the game said you had to buy the DLC to complete it.

A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 17:17 collapse

There was also one where you stumble upon a thing that crashed from space and its this whole totally-not-superman story, and it starts just fine, but the next step involved a NPC literally telling you to buy the DLC to continue.

in two seperate playthroughs, this was the among the first things I encountered in the game.

Which is why I never bought any DA:O DLC, and never bought any of the subsequent titles. because fuck. that. shit

Inui@lemmy.ml on 13 Jun 17:26 collapse

If you ever feel like going back, I’d pirate it because stuff like the Darkspawn DLC and the Warden expansion was great and made 2 all the more disappointing.