gashead76@lemmy.world
on 08 Aug 2024 23:46
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I’m actually really looking forward to this movie. I’m all for trying new things within the Star Trek universe!
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 09 Aug 2024 00:42
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I have no idea if I’m going to like it - it’s definitely not shaping up to be the story I had in my head - but I’m interested in seeing them do something different.
gashead76@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 01:35
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I feel similar. Way back when they announced a series based around Section 31 I had a whole different notion about what that would be. The fact that they made it at all and the cast and crew all seem so genuinely excited has me hopeful.
UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 07:09
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I’m all for trying new things within the Star Trek universe!
I’m usually in the same boat. Because IDIC, you know? I like it when new shows expand the Trek universe and try something new. Just look at DS9. It got a lot of backlash in the 90s (“too dark”, “not Gene’s vision” etc.) and nowadays it’s very popular and often ranked somewhere around TNG.
But this Section 31 movie… I don’t know. Nothing about seems appealing. The main role is basically Space Hitler. It was already nonsense how they tried to redeem that character on Discovery while she had no redeeming qualities. Compare that to other Trek “villains” like Gul Dukat who at least had some sort of moral compass, even if it was a bit skewed. But Georgiou? There’s nothing. She’s just one-dimensionally evil. Do we really need a movie with her in the main role? 😕
veeesix@lemmy.ca
on 09 Aug 2024 00:12
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So you’re all astronauts on some sort of… star trek suicide squad?
rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 04:28
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it would be soo much better if it was Culture instead of trek. but they would totally mis-characterize the culture
michaelgemar@mstdn.ca
on 09 Aug 2024 22:41
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@mactan@startrek Yep — I’m used to The Culture being more…”active”…in its external efforts.
rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 22:43
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The only book they could maybe get right is Consider Phlebas and maybe The State of the Art stories. Anything that features The Culture heavily would be a nightmare.
It’s a shame, Look to Windward is a beautiful story.
SulaymanF@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 05:58
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This just feels so counter to Trek ideals.
Olap@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 07:19
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Same thing was said about DS9. And Discovery. And Lower Decks. Star Trek has proven itself to be very adaptable from comedy, to horror, through action and drama - and that’s the films alone.
I suspect we may well see S31 shown for what all intelligence organisations are: corrupt, inept, and deeply hypocritical to civil society. Doesn’t that sound like Star Trek to you?
khleedril@cyberplace.social
on 09 Aug 2024 20:01
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@Olap@SulaymanF Curious to know which film you regard as comedy? I'm sure I won't be disagreeing with you....
ST IV obviously. The horror more the stretch imo, and that’s parts of khan, with parts of Undiscovered
tiramichu@lemm.ee
on 09 Aug 2024 07:20
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The teaser trailer looks like a high energy superhero romp that’s closer to Guardians of the Galaxy, than it is anything Star Trek.
And I just don’t like the idea that section 31 is made up of a bunch of oddballs and misfits with no discipline. Makes the movie more ‘exciting’ I guess, but really? Section 31 should move quietly in the shadows, not all brash and ballsy.
I’m sure they are hoping this style will boost revenue by appealing to a younger demographic, but it’s just totally the opposite of what I want from Star Trek.
Corgana@startrek.website
on 09 Aug 2024 18:04
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💯 Same thing with the abomination that is DS9.
directive0@lemmy.world
on 09 Aug 2024 19:48
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I’m actually really looking forward to this movie. I’m all for trying new things within the Star Trek universe!
I have no idea if I’m going to like it - it’s definitely not shaping up to be the story I had in my head - but I’m interested in seeing them do something different.
I feel similar. Way back when they announced a series based around Section 31 I had a whole different notion about what that would be. The fact that they made it at all and the cast and crew all seem so genuinely excited has me hopeful.
I’m usually in the same boat. Because IDIC, you know? I like it when new shows expand the Trek universe and try something new. Just look at DS9. It got a lot of backlash in the 90s (“too dark”, “not Gene’s vision” etc.) and nowadays it’s very popular and often ranked somewhere around TNG.
But this Section 31 movie… I don’t know. Nothing about seems appealing. The main role is basically Space Hitler. It was already nonsense how they tried to redeem that character on Discovery while she had no redeeming qualities. Compare that to other Trek “villains” like Gul Dukat who at least had some sort of moral compass, even if it was a bit skewed. But Georgiou? There’s nothing. She’s just one-dimensionally evil. Do we really need a movie with her in the main role? 😕
So you’re all astronauts on some sort of…
star treksuicide squad?Special Circumstances :)
it would be soo much better if it was Culture instead of trek. but they would totally mis-characterize the culture
@mactan @startrek Yep — I’m used to The Culture being more…”active”…in its external efforts.
The only book they could maybe get right is Consider Phlebas and maybe The State of the Art stories. Anything that features The Culture heavily would be a nightmare.
It’s a shame, Look to Windward is a beautiful story.
This just feels so counter to Trek ideals.
Same thing was said about DS9. And Discovery. And Lower Decks. Star Trek has proven itself to be very adaptable from comedy, to horror, through action and drama - and that’s the films alone.
I suspect we may well see S31 shown for what all intelligence organisations are: corrupt, inept, and deeply hypocritical to civil society. Doesn’t that sound like Star Trek to you?
@Olap @SulaymanF Curious to know which film you regard as comedy? I'm sure I won't be disagreeing with you....
ST IV obviously. The horror more the stretch imo, and that’s parts of khan, with parts of Undiscovered
The teaser trailer looks like a high energy superhero romp that’s closer to Guardians of the Galaxy, than it is anything Star Trek.
And I just don’t like the idea that section 31 is made up of a bunch of oddballs and misfits with no discipline. Makes the movie more ‘exciting’ I guess, but really? Section 31 should move quietly in the shadows, not all brash and ballsy.
I’m sure they are hoping this style will boost revenue by appealing to a younger demographic, but it’s just totally the opposite of what I want from Star Trek.
💯 Same thing with the abomination that is DS9.
Oh for petes sake.