Confusion on Trek Eras
from data1701d@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website on 29 Oct 2024 01:48
https://startrek.website/post/15876418

TLDR; Is PRO TNG or PIC era? Do Trek eras as we know them even matter anymore?

Edit: Fixed TOK to be TWOK era. My 2 brain cells had failed me there.

Before I give my problem, here’s what I find the conventional Star Trek eras to be (including some common sub-eras that some might consider distinct):

I think most newer series have obvious placements, e.g:

However, the main thing that is ruffling my feathers is that PRO’s placement in my framework is very confusing. It exists on an awkward border between TNG and PIC.

On one hand, some of its storytelling conventions fit better with PIC, not to mention the fact that the Utopia Planetia attack occurs at the end of PRO.

On the other hand, PRO continues some TNG era characters that aren’t yet elderly versions of themselves.

This goes back to the initial question: Do we place the vast majority of PRO in the TNG era (and have like the last five minutes of season 2 [hopefully not the show] in PIC era), or do we extend the Picard era backwards to 2383 to include PRO in its entirety?

The 2383 solution might work, as that leaves 2382 in the TNG era for the 5th season of Lower Decks.

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ValueSubtracted@startrek.website on 29 Oct 2024 04:08 next collapse

When it comes to the overlapping shows, it might be better to frame things around events rather than series. Like, Dominion War, Romulan Evacuation, etc. But then, there are still some gaps in there, or unrelated adventures that aren’t really defined by those major events.

rogermccoy@startrek.website on 29 Oct 2024 04:31 next collapse

I’d probably just start the PIC era in 2399. We only see the 2380’s in a handful of flashbacks. Prodigy definitely has some PIC connections, but it’s far more a continuation of Voyager, and it starts like a year after season 5 of Lower Decks.

dharmacurious@slrpnk.net on 29 Oct 2024 06:39 next collapse

What is TOK era? In drawing a blank of what show is abbreviated TOK

rubikcuber@feddit.uk on 29 Oct 2024 06:55 next collapse

Star Trek: Tears of the Kingdom

dharmacurious@slrpnk.net on 29 Oct 2024 06:58 collapse

I think I blocked that one out. When it revealed Vulcans descended from ancient Hylians it was very upsetting to me, because it completely retconned all the erotic Spock fiction I had written.

swab148@lemm.ee on 29 Oct 2024 07:24 collapse

You can’t say something like that and not post the fanfic. Share your dirty Spock!

dharmacurious@slrpnk.net on 29 Oct 2024 17:03 collapse

I’m afraid I cannot. I’m afraid Lemmy is far too emotional to handle the deep philosophical messages of “The Kirking of my Colon-ar”

data1701d@startrek.website on 29 Oct 2024 08:48 collapse

I think I meant to put TWOK, for Wrath of Khan. TOK was an IB class I took in high school, so my brain defaulted to that.

dharmacurious@slrpnk.net on 29 Oct 2024 17:13 collapse

Ah! That makes sense. Thank you!

mercano@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2024 04:13 collapse

It’s super annoying, but even though they’re all airing at the same time, Picard, Lower Decks, and Prodigy all take place at slightly different times. At least they’re consistent with TNG stardates, where 41000 is 2364, and each 1000 stardates equals one Earth year, so you can get a year from a captain’s log entry. From Memory Alpha:

Lower Decks: 2380-2382

Prodigy: 2383–2385

Picard: 2399-2341 (Ignoring flashbacks)

I miss the TNG / DS9 / VOY era, when shows airing concurrently all take place at the same time.