That was such a good episode - I think the first episode during my first rewatch since it first aired when I realized this show had more of an edge than I remembered.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 16:18
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Like the article says, the early seasons are often given short shrift due to what comes later, but there’s some great stuff in there.
Kirk@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 17:26
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I posted last month on this topic but I too forgot how many bangers are in Season 2 especially, they just tend to get overshadowed by the later seasons.
1SimpleTailor@startrek.website
on 14 Jun 00:44
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DS9 has always had edge. It’s among the great works of Anti-Fascist media. Given the course history has taken since it aired, the show has aged like fine wine.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 15:16
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A few years later the xindi plotline in Enterprise gave us our first taste of pro fascist star trek media
khleedril@cyberplace.social
on 13 Jun 16:30
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@ValueSubtracted FFS will somebody just come straight up and tell us which episode we are talking about?
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 16:32
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If you’re interested in the article, you could try, y’know, reading it.
Edit: I was being a bit of a dumb-dumb.
khleedril@cyberplace.social
on 13 Jun 17:08
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@ValueSubtracted I, y'know, clicked on the link and it didn't tell me anything.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 17:16
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I just clued in that you’re visiting from a Mastodon server. In that case, it’s unfortunately two clicks - first the startrek.website link, then the Gizmodo link that goes to the actual article.
Federation is an imperfect beast sometimes.
khleedril@cyberplace.social
on 13 Jun 17:11
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@ValueSubtracted For everybody's information, it was S01E19 Duet.
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world
on 13 Jun 16:42
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Was that our first exposure to a non-soldier Cardassian? I know he was military, but like a clerk or something. I think he really added some color to Cardassians, who up until that point were nothing but a one-dimensional fascist military race.
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip
on 13 Jun 16:57
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We had seen Garak already, depending on how you would classify him.
thejoker954@lemmy.world
on 13 Jun 17:24
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I’d classify Garak as Military. While he isn’t a soldier per se him being a Spook (Especially a Cardie Spook) means he was directly involved in tactical ops.
Marritza by contrast was doing a decidedly civilian job (file clerk) and most likely only ever participated in combat during training.
I love the idea of Garak reading that and being disgusted at being called part of the military. The obsidian order looks down on the military as Guileless Brutes.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 00:30
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Had their own fleet too. Garak would probably like it more if you called him a simple tailor with a wink than a soldier.
A simple tailor whose shop occasionally suffers from explosions
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip
on 13 Jun 16:43
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Now I need to see that episode again! I remember that episode really standing out to me when I was first watching the show, I think I rewatched it in the next day or two.
thejoker954@lemmy.world
on 13 Jun 17:12
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I just rewatched that episode about a month ago. Such an amazing episode.
RIP Harris Yulin.
wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk
on 13 Jun 17:28
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One of my fave episodes of anything ever, in DS9 season 1 no less.RIP
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 13 Jun 17:43
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Easily one of my favorites. I should rewatch it this afternoon.
ds9 is best trek imo. the double fake identity twist is just silly enough that it somehow feels conceivable, even with the cosmetic surgery angle. i don’t know that i’d take a plot like that seriously in anything other than a star trek story lmao
klemptor@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 18:29
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The Delta Flyers podcast did a great job reviewing this episode. If you’re not familiar with the podcast, it was started by Robert Duncan McNeil and Garrett Wang originally to review all episodes of Voyager. When they finished with Voyager, they added Armin Shimerman and Terry Farrell as hosts to review all episodes of DS9. For this particular episode, they had Nana Visitor on as a special guest. It was a really interesting listen!
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@ValueSubtracted absolutely agree. One of my favorite DS9 episodes. I love the ones that are complicated for Kira
That was such a good episode - I think the first episode during my first rewatch since it first aired when I realized this show had more of an edge than I remembered.
Like the article says, the early seasons are often given short shrift due to what comes later, but there’s some great stuff in there.
I posted last month on this topic but I too forgot how many bangers are in Season 2 especially, they just tend to get overshadowed by the later seasons.
DS9 has always had edge. It’s among the great works of Anti-Fascist media. Given the course history has taken since it aired, the show has aged like fine wine.
A few years later the xindi plotline in Enterprise gave us our first taste of pro fascist star trek media
@ValueSubtracted FFS will somebody just come straight up and tell us which episode we are talking about?
If you’re interested in the article, you could try, y’know, reading it.Edit: I was being a bit of a dumb-dumb.
@ValueSubtracted I, y'know, clicked on the link and it didn't tell me anything.
I just clued in that you’re visiting from a Mastodon server. In that case, it’s unfortunately two clicks - first the startrek.website link, then the Gizmodo link that goes to the actual article.
Federation is an imperfect beast sometimes.
@ValueSubtracted For everybody's information, it was S01E19 Duet.
A good episode indeed.
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Was that our first exposure to a non-soldier Cardassian? I know he was military, but like a clerk or something. I think he really added some color to Cardassians, who up until that point were nothing but a one-dimensional fascist military race.
We had seen Garak already, depending on how you would classify him.
I’d classify Garak as Military. While he isn’t a soldier per se him being a Spook (Especially a Cardie Spook) means he was directly involved in tactical ops.
Marritza by contrast was doing a decidedly civilian job (file clerk) and most likely only ever participated in combat during training.
I love the idea of Garak reading that and being disgusted at being called part of the military. The obsidian order looks down on the military as Guileless Brutes.
Had their own fleet too. Garak would probably like it more if you called him a simple tailor with a wink than a soldier.
I’d call him whatever he wanted to be called, and often. 😏
I don’t know what you’re talking about. He’s just a simple tailor.
A simple tailor whose shop occasionally suffers from explosions
Now I need to see that episode again! I remember that episode really standing out to me when I was first watching the show, I think I rewatched it in the next day or two.
I just rewatched that episode about a month ago. Such an amazing episode.
RIP Harris Yulin.
One of my fave episodes of anything ever, in DS9 season 1 no less.RIP
Easily one of my favorites. I should rewatch it this afternoon.
ds9 is best trek imo. the double fake identity twist is just silly enough that it somehow feels conceivable, even with the cosmetic surgery angle. i don’t know that i’d take a plot like that seriously in anything other than a star trek story lmao
The Delta Flyers podcast did a great job reviewing this episode. If you’re not familiar with the podcast, it was started by Robert Duncan McNeil and Garrett Wang originally to review all episodes of Voyager. When they finished with Voyager, they added Armin Shimerman and Terry Farrell as hosts to review all episodes of DS9. For this particular episode, they had Nana Visitor on as a special guest. It was a really interesting listen!
Best Trek Season 1 episode of any series? I think there’s an argument to be made. This is the episode I think hooked my kid on Trek.