I had hoped that the humans of the 25th Century Federation had evolved or developed educational, political , and other social systems to where bigotry wasn’t a large problem anymore.
Kind of like getting rid of money.
Otherwise, there will always be a dark undercurrent of prejudice and hatred in all human dealings, and maybe the Romulans, Klingons, and other antagonistic spacefaring civilizations are justified in not wanting to deal with a human-led Federation.
MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website
on 06 Jun 20:16
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Woah isn’t that exactly what he himself tries to do in Undiscovered Country?
hopesdead@startrek.website
on 06 Jun 21:34
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Specifically in “Balance of Terror” he is telling Stiles that it was unacceptable to judge Spock for looking the same as a Romulan, fully knowing he was a different species.
EDIT: in STVI, I think the context is being angry for the death of David.
Was that before they discovered the Romulans were long lost Vulcans?
MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today
on 08 Jun 13:02
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Balance Of Terror was when/how they discovered it
MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website
on 07 Jun 02:26
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Ya in his quarters he decries the Klingon bastards that killed his son. But at the dinner with Gorkon he drinks and toasts with klingons. He leaves it in his quarters, which of course backfires.
hopesdead@startrek.website
on 07 Jun 02:31
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Hadn’t they been drinking Romulan ale at that point which he regrets?
MisanthropiCynic@lemmy.today
on 08 Jun 13:03
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Yet he still did the right thing in VI despite his bias. (And if you watch the Orville, there’s a character in season 3 that has the same arc).
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I’d say that it doesn’t belong anywhere.
I don’t think starfleet captains have the authority to command the hearts and minds of their officers.
And after my shift?
I had hoped that the humans of the 25th Century Federation had evolved or developed educational, political , and other social systems to where bigotry wasn’t a large problem anymore.
Kind of like getting rid of money.
Otherwise, there will always be a dark undercurrent of prejudice and hatred in all human dealings, and maybe the Romulans, Klingons, and other antagonistic spacefaring civilizations are justified in not wanting to deal with a human-led Federation.
Woah isn’t that exactly what he himself tries to do in Undiscovered Country?
Specifically in “Balance of Terror” he is telling Stiles that it was unacceptable to judge Spock for looking the same as a Romulan, fully knowing he was a different species.
EDIT: in STVI, I think the context is being angry for the death of David.
Was that before they discovered the Romulans were long lost Vulcans?
Balance Of Terror was when/how they discovered it
Ya in his quarters he decries the Klingon bastards that killed his son. But at the dinner with Gorkon he drinks and toasts with klingons. He leaves it in his quarters, which of course backfires.
Hadn’t they been drinking Romulan ale at that point which he regrets?
Yet he still did the right thing in VI despite his bias. (And if you watch the Orville, there’s a character in season 3 that has the same arc).