PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee
on 13 Jan 2024 21:44
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That episode is pure gold.
The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website
on 13 Jan 2024 22:09
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Black mirror is a lot like a modern Twilight Zone, which early Star Trek was significantly influenced by, and now a fan who directed an episode inspired by Trek gets to do actual Trek?
I can feel my hopes getting up.
gregorum@lemm.ee
on 14 Jan 2024 00:06
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William Shatner also starred in several episodes
Bebo@literature.cafe
on 14 Jan 2024 11:06
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Wow so there’s a Trek inspired Black Mirror episode? Will need to check it out.
Davel23@kbin.social
on 13 Jan 2024 22:45
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I share your dismay w/r/t the ‘origin story’ trope, and started typing a much more cynical comment. But it’s not like you can’t tell a good story within those parameters. Plenty of good prequels exist. And lots of people were not big fans of Picard’s efforts to advance the timeline.
The determining factor for me will be the quality of the writing. I haven’t seen this Black Mirror episode, but I’ll check it out.
Corgana@startrek.website
on 14 Jan 2024 16:51
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The “I won’t try it because it’s a prequel” argument reminds me of “Deep Space Nine is boring because the station doesn’t move”, as if every episode of TNG or TOS involved the ship being in motion, and if the presence of nacelles was somehow what made the writing good.
Honestly, that aspect of DS9 did put me off when it first aired, but in my defense I was a kid. I don’t think I got around to watching the whole series until sometime in my 30’s. I also think my JLP-lovin’ kid self thought it was total bullshit that Sisko held Picard responsible for the crimes of Locutus.
michaelgemar@mstdn.ca
on 14 Jan 2024 17:47
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@Carlo@startrek I didn’t get into DS9 until I was older. I think its complexity and more morally grey tone would have put me off as a kid, but as an adult I loved it.
Corgana@startrek.website
on 14 Jan 2024 19:03
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Same. DS9 is not as kid-accessible that’s for sure. Fun fac: DS9 actually has fewer bottle episodes than TNG.
Zorque@kbin.social
on 13 Jan 2024 22:47
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Well, as long as it's nothing like that episode, it should be fine.
I remember an episode of CSI years ago where they were investigating the murder of someone who was rebooting a very Star Trek show into something super dark and gritty, with none of the hope and positivity the original show had. That seems to be the trend of a lot of Star Trek properties the last few years, and it makes me think the writer of that episode was quite prescient.
my expectation is that since they described it as being linked to kelvin it’s going to have jj abrams kelvin vibes instead of new trek vibes
knotthatone@lemmy.one
on 15 Jan 2024 17:07
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The impact to the timeline form the Narada affected the timeline before that point as well because it affected subsequent time travel (allllll the times SNW, TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, etc. went into the past would have occurred differently)
Zoot@reddthat.com
on 13 Jan 2024 23:49
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Did anyone watch Video Game Highschool on YouTube? Am I crazy, or is the dude sitting in the captains chair, the same as the “villian” in vghs?
Madison_rogue@kbin.social
on 13 Jan 2024 23:55
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That's Jesse Plemons. I don't see Video Game Highschool on his list of acting credits in IMDB.
Yep, my memory has faded. They do not look remotely similar, I must be remembering Jesse Plemons from elsewhere. Thank you.
Madison_rogue@kbin.social
on 14 Jan 2024 00:03
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That's alright. When I first saw the episode USS Calilister I thought he was Matt Damon.
Plemons is actually married to Kirsten Dunst. He's got quite a lot of acting credits under his belt. Friday Night Lights, Varsity Blues, and most recently Killers of the Flower Moon with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Based_and_Cool@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Jan 2024 00:13
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Not the same guy but he was I the later seasons of breaking bad’ as the guy that killed the kid
nullPointer@programming.dev
on 14 Jan 2024 02:08
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nick named “meth damon”
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2024 18:50
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They should make that black mirror episode into a series as a contrast to The Orville.
MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee
on 14 Jan 2024 19:10
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I like John Scalzi and I love Star Trek, but I couldn’t get into Redshirts. It just felt like “We have Star Trek at home…”
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2024 19:48
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That’s why Willful Child is probably the better Star Trek fanfic, where it’s like “what if we really emphasized how much of a misogynistic asshole Kirk could have been?” Or “what if we merged Kirk with Zapp Brannigan?”
USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website
on 14 Jan 2024 20:13
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I find “USS Callister” especially funny because early on in Disco’s run, people would point to it as what new Trek should be, but the episode is all about how someone obsessed with an old sci-fi television show is a loser and a creep, and then it ends with the protagonists getting a Kelvin universe-esque upgrade, lens flares and all.
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That episode is pure gold.
Black mirror is a lot like a modern Twilight Zone, which early Star Trek was significantly influenced by, and now a fan who directed an episode inspired by Trek gets to do actual Trek?
I can feel my hopes getting up.
William Shatner also starred in several episodes
Wow so there’s a Trek inspired Black Mirror episode? Will need to check it out.
Oh good, another prequel.
I share your dismay w/r/t the ‘origin story’ trope, and started typing a much more cynical comment. But it’s not like you can’t tell a good story within those parameters. Plenty of good prequels exist. And lots of people were not big fans of Picard’s efforts to advance the timeline.
The determining factor for me will be the quality of the writing. I haven’t seen this Black Mirror episode, but I’ll check it out.
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The “I won’t try it because it’s a prequel” argument reminds me of “Deep Space Nine is boring because the station doesn’t move”, as if every episode of TNG or TOS involved the ship being in motion, and if the presence of nacelles was somehow what made the writing good.
Honestly, that aspect of DS9 did put me off when it first aired, but in my defense I was a kid. I don’t think I got around to watching the whole series until sometime in my 30’s. I also think my JLP-lovin’ kid self thought it was total bullshit that Sisko held Picard responsible for the crimes of Locutus.
@Carlo @startrek I didn’t get into DS9 until I was older. I think its complexity and more morally grey tone would have put me off as a kid, but as an adult I loved it.
Same. DS9 is not as kid-accessible that’s for sure. Fun fac: DS9 actually has fewer bottle episodes than TNG.
What do they even want to prequel? Isn’t SNW already doing that?
it sounds like they want to cover the birth of the Federation, so maybe it’s a bit of an Enterprise follow-up?
This wasn’t told on ENT?
Well, as long as it's nothing like that episode, it should be fine.
I remember an episode of CSI years ago where they were investigating the murder of someone who was rebooting a very Star Trek show into something super dark and gritty, with none of the hope and positivity the original show had. That seems to be the trend of a lot of Star Trek properties the last few years, and it makes me think the writer of that episode was quite prescient.
unfortunately it’s kelvin timeline so … ugh
The timeline didn't split until the Narada showed up. So, if it's before that moment, it is still the original timeline.
my expectation is that since they described it as being linked to kelvin it’s going to have jj abrams kelvin vibes instead of new trek vibes
The impact to the timeline form the Narada affected the timeline before that point as well because it affected subsequent time travel (allllll the times SNW, TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, etc. went into the past would have occurred differently)
Did anyone watch Video Game Highschool on YouTube? Am I crazy, or is the dude sitting in the captains chair, the same as the “villian” in vghs?
That's Jesse Plemons. I don't see Video Game Highschool on his list of acting credits in IMDB.
You might be thinking of Bryan Forrest.
Yep, my memory has faded. They do not look remotely similar, I must be remembering Jesse Plemons from elsewhere. Thank you.
That's alright. When I first saw the episode USS Calilister I thought he was Matt Damon.
Plemons is actually married to Kirsten Dunst. He's got quite a lot of acting credits under his belt. Friday Night Lights, Varsity Blues, and most recently Killers of the Flower Moon with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Not the same guy but he was I the later seasons of breaking bad’ as the guy that killed the kid
nick named “meth damon”
They should make that black mirror episode into a series as a contrast to The Orville.
Also good is John Scalzi’s Red Shirts or Steven Erickson’s Willful Child
I like John Scalzi and I love Star Trek, but I couldn’t get into Redshirts. It just felt like “We have Star Trek at home…”
That’s why Willful Child is probably the better Star Trek fanfic, where it’s like “what if we really emphasized how much of a misogynistic asshole Kirk could have been?” Or “what if we merged Kirk with Zapp Brannigan?”
I find “USS Callister” especially funny because early on in Disco’s run, people would point to it as what new Trek should be, but the episode is all about how someone obsessed with an old sci-fi television show is a loser and a creep, and then it ends with the protagonists getting a Kelvin universe-esque upgrade, lens flares and all.
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