StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 19 Aug 2024 15:33
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I’m not unhappy that Starfleet Academy has been holding back on callbacks of Discovery legacy characters.
As we saw with DS9, sometimes it’s better to let the new characters have some time to establish themselves and settle down before confronting them with former main cast legacies. Otherwise, what’s intended to help a new show get established can sometimes do the opposite.
Can anyone really cite a first season major legacy character appearance that boosted a new show and is considered a strong entry in hindsight?
The only one that comes to mind for me is Riker and Troi’s appearance in ‘Nepenthe’ in season one of Picard.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 19 Aug 2024 16:04
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Yeah, I think Tilly and Vance can serve to “pass the torch” just fine, though I’m excited at the possibility that the other characters could pop up at any time.
Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
on 19 Aug 2024 19:23
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There’s not a single discovery character aside from Stammets that I care about. I’ve watched it all and never grew to like anyone but him on this show
Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
on 19 Aug 2024 23:06
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She’s alright but I can’t really tell you anything about her character cause she had no character development. Don’t even remember the characters name
thejoker954@lemmy.world
on 24 Aug 2024 18:31
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Fair point. All we really know about her character is the generalization of she is smart, tough, competent and funny.
She didn’t really get development.
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
on 01 Sep 2024 03:57
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Idunno, old man McCoy in the TNG pilot was pretty memorable, as was Picard in the first episode of DS9. It’s a fun tradition.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 01 Sep 2024 15:06
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McCoy was in Encounter at Farpoint with one meta purpose - to counter the TOS fans that were campaigning hard to say that it ‘wasn’t the same universe.’
McCoy’s presence was a nice Easter Egg, but not much more. But he did the job of saying that it was the new Enterprise in continuity with the legendary ship on which he served.
Fans argued that because Roddenberry insisted on moving WW3 back to the mid 21st century as of Encounter at Farpoint, TNG had to be a different timeline.
TOS fans understood the Eugenics Wars to be the precursor to WW3, so they just didn’t accept WW3 was going to be another half-century away. Roddenberry’s directive was to always keep the Star Trek future in our future so WW3 had to be shifted to later in time and any specific mention of the date of the Eugenics Wars was avoided.
They also hated the carpet and many other things about the ‘luxury hotel in space’ Enterprise.
Yup, that happened and continued to happen until well into TNG season 3. The brigading Berman-era fans who rail unrelentingly against ‘Nu-Trek’ don’t sound any different, they’re just more visible than the 1980s fans that relied on mimeoed fanzines and Usenet. Fans that liked TNG kept quiet at cons until at least 1990, and vendors didn’t bring TNG merchandise.
johnefrancis@lemmy.ca
on 19 Aug 2024 16:08
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I’m hoping for a What We Do In The Shadows / Star Trek crossover.
Baron Afanas and Saru surely have some weird dreams? The Baron also faces a series of extreme transformations.
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I’m not unhappy that Starfleet Academy has been holding back on callbacks of Discovery legacy characters.
As we saw with DS9, sometimes it’s better to let the new characters have some time to establish themselves and settle down before confronting them with former main cast legacies. Otherwise, what’s intended to help a new show get established can sometimes do the opposite.
Can anyone really cite a first season major legacy character appearance that boosted a new show and is considered a strong entry in hindsight?
The only one that comes to mind for me is Riker and Troi’s appearance in ‘Nepenthe’ in season one of Picard.
Yeah, I think Tilly and Vance can serve to “pass the torch” just fine, though I’m excited at the possibility that the other characters could pop up at any time.
There’s not a single discovery character aside from Stammets that I care about. I’ve watched it all and never grew to like anyone but him on this show
What about Tig notaro?
She’s alright but I can’t really tell you anything about her character cause she had no character development. Don’t even remember the characters name
Fair point. All we really know about her character is the generalization of she is smart, tough, competent and funny.
She didn’t really get development.
Idunno, old man McCoy in the TNG pilot was pretty memorable, as was Picard in the first episode of DS9. It’s a fun tradition.
McCoy was in Encounter at Farpoint with one meta purpose - to counter the TOS fans that were campaigning hard to say that it ‘wasn’t the same universe.’
McCoy’s presence was a nice Easter Egg, but not much more. But he did the job of saying that it was the new Enterprise in continuity with the legendary ship on which he served.
Fans argued that because Roddenberry insisted on moving WW3 back to the mid 21st century as of Encounter at Farpoint, TNG had to be a different timeline.
TOS fans understood the Eugenics Wars to be the precursor to WW3, so they just didn’t accept WW3 was going to be another half-century away. Roddenberry’s directive was to always keep the Star Trek future in our future so WW3 had to be shifted to later in time and any specific mention of the date of the Eugenics Wars was avoided.
They also hated the carpet and many other things about the ‘luxury hotel in space’ Enterprise.
Yup, that happened and continued to happen until well into TNG season 3. The brigading Berman-era fans who rail unrelentingly against ‘Nu-Trek’ don’t sound any different, they’re just more visible than the 1980s fans that relied on mimeoed fanzines and Usenet. Fans that liked TNG kept quiet at cons until at least 1990, and vendors didn’t bring TNG merchandise.
I’m hoping for a What We Do In The Shadows / Star Trek crossover.
Baron Afanas and Saru surely have some weird dreams? The Baron also faces a series of extreme transformations.
It’s always fascinating to see how much this guy lived his role as Saru