ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 08 Sep 15:07
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Two episodes (if you can call a 3-4 minute short an “episode”) will supposedly go live today, so, uh, if you’re a preschooler, let us know what you think!
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 08 Sep 16:46
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Since the asteroids are silly, and the skateboard appears/disappears, and the targ just appears, I was thinking this was some kids playing in a holodeck, maybe an in-universe hologame(?) for kids.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 08 Sep 20:55
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excuse me reddit is that way
BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us
on 08 Sep 15:08
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@ValueSubtracted As a former Scout, I really want to like this show. As someone who's watched too much cartoons, the "every line is yelled children's voices in high-gain microphones" and a straight up *fugly* animation style are massive put-offs.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 08 Sep 15:11
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This is for three-year-olds.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 08 Sep 19:50
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Shows for preschoolers use higher pitched voices that they hear and decode better at that developmental stage.
They also feature characters with big rounded bobbleheads that they relate to better.
These are a few of the things from early childhood development research findings that were taken up almost immediately by the children’s television industry.
We all lose hearing in the upper frequencies as we age, but young children with smaller ear canals really understand high pitched voices better than low ones. And this show is targeted at them.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 10 Sep 05:26
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I don’t know about the voices thing; when I was pre-school aged I enjoyed Ringo narrating Thomas the Tank Engine.
I can somewhat get the concept of styling; it’s just human psychology in general. As much as I love Prodigy, there’s characters that could have used a lot more stylization and as a result end up looking really creepy; this is especially common among previous Star Trek characters. Lower Decks was much better about its stylization in some ways; it had a consistent design language into which all characters, including classic ones, were translated, and it stuck with it (with the exception of a few background characters in early season 1 episodes as well as this one freakish human ensign with giant ears).
However, the preschool show’s style feels so cheap, soulless, and generic; they didn’t do it well.
BalooUriza@social.tulsa.ok.us
on 10 Sep 12:40
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@StillPaisleyCat It's not that I can't hear the voicework, it's that the voicework is seemingly intentionally awful, even for preschool programming. Contrast to, say, Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood or Carl the Collector, which manages to target that age group without screaming every line.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 10 Sep 20:14
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You won’t get any debate from me that the Canadian produced shows for younger children are better produced. Especially the ones produced for public broadcasting rather than commercial.
Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood and many other PBS children’s shows are actually coproductions with production companies that work regularly for public broadcasters CBC or TVO (Ontario’s public broadcaster).
TVO does have to answer for launching Paw Patrol though. It started here, enabling Spinmaster (originally an educational toy company) launch a toy line and a show together, and then able to absorb many classic American toy lines such as Erector, Etch-a-Sketch and Melissa & Doug.
We always found the Nickelodeon and Disney show the lowest quality options when our kids were small. Even the Corus commercial cable channel shows for children were better.
dethstrobe@startrek.website
on 09 Sep 01:29
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I personally am looking forward to the inevitable crossover episode with Strange New Worlds.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world
on 09 Sep 03:49
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i can hear it in Dorn's voice so clearly: "Bubbles is not a traditional name for a targ."
data1701d@startrek.website
on 10 Sep 00:12
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My sister called this an abomination… and she’s the one who sees redeeming qualities in DISCO (I do too, but I think she likes Disco more than me).
From what I’ve read, I agree. This seems to be purely oriented towards iPad babies, which is horrid; these kinds of shows let their child viewers be dumber than they actually are.
I’d much rather have a Craig of the Creek-esque show about a group of kids having fun and going about their lives on a starbase while their parents deal with big Starfleet stuff in the background, hinting at something bigger going on as a mystery for parents and smart kids to solve. The kids never save the entire Federation or something hokey like that; at most, we have something like a Picard stuck in the turbolift with three children and a broken leg during red alert situation every once in a while.
I hate this so much. This is identical to the slop shows my toddler has been into recently. Super Kitties, Spiderman and his Amazing Friends, Paw Patrol, PJ Masks. I hate them all.
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Two episodes (if you can call a 3-4 minute short an “episode”) will supposedly go live today, so, uh, if you’re a preschooler, let us know what you think!
Episode 1
Episode 2
My headcanon is that this is an in-universe show that the kids on the Enterprise D enjoyed.
Boimler grew up with it and has ALL the nostalgic merch. Mariner also has the merch hidden in the ceiling panels but would never admit to it.
Since the asteroids are silly, and the skateboard appears/disappears, and the targ just appears, I was thinking this was some kids playing in a holodeck, maybe an in-universe hologame(?) for kids.
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excuse me reddit is that way
@ValueSubtracted As a former Scout, I really want to like this show. As someone who's watched too much cartoons, the "every line is yelled children's voices in high-gain microphones" and a straight up *fugly* animation style are massive put-offs.
This is for three-year-olds.
Shows for preschoolers use higher pitched voices that they hear and decode better at that developmental stage.
They also feature characters with big rounded bobbleheads that they relate to better.
These are a few of the things from early childhood development research findings that were taken up almost immediately by the children’s television industry.
We all lose hearing in the upper frequencies as we age, but young children with smaller ear canals really understand high pitched voices better than low ones. And this show is targeted at them.
I don’t know about the voices thing; when I was pre-school aged I enjoyed Ringo narrating Thomas the Tank Engine.
I can somewhat get the concept of styling; it’s just human psychology in general. As much as I love Prodigy, there’s characters that could have used a lot more stylization and as a result end up looking really creepy; this is especially common among previous Star Trek characters. Lower Decks was much better about its stylization in some ways; it had a consistent design language into which all characters, including classic ones, were translated, and it stuck with it (with the exception of a few background characters in early season 1 episodes as well as this one freakish human ensign with giant ears).
However, the preschool show’s style feels so cheap, soulless, and generic; they didn’t do it well.
@StillPaisleyCat It's not that I can't hear the voicework, it's that the voicework is seemingly intentionally awful, even for preschool programming. Contrast to, say, Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood or Carl the Collector, which manages to target that age group without screaming every line.
You won’t get any debate from me that the Canadian produced shows for younger children are better produced. Especially the ones produced for public broadcasting rather than commercial.
Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood and many other PBS children’s shows are actually coproductions with production companies that work regularly for public broadcasters CBC or TVO (Ontario’s public broadcaster).
TVO does have to answer for launching Paw Patrol though. It started here, enabling Spinmaster (originally an educational toy company) launch a toy line and a show together, and then able to absorb many classic American toy lines such as Erector, Etch-a-Sketch and Melissa & Doug.
We always found the Nickelodeon and Disney show the lowest quality options when our kids were small. Even the Corus commercial cable channel shows for children were better.
I personally am looking forward to the inevitable crossover episode with Strange New Worlds.
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i can hear it in Dorn's voice so clearly: "Bubbles is not a traditional name for a targ."
My sister called this an abomination… and she’s the one who sees redeeming qualities in DISCO (I do too, but I think she likes Disco more than me).
From what I’ve read, I agree. This seems to be purely oriented towards iPad babies, which is horrid; these kinds of shows let their child viewers be dumber than they actually are.
I’d much rather have a Craig of the Creek-esque show about a group of kids having fun and going about their lives on a starbase while their parents deal with big Starfleet stuff in the background, hinting at something bigger going on as a mystery for parents and smart kids to solve. The kids never save the entire Federation or something hokey like that; at most, we have something like a Picard stuck in the turbolift with three children and a broken leg during red alert situation every once in a while.
@data1701d @ValueSubtracted
Yeah, this'll be a hard pass for me too.
I hate this so much. This is identical to the slop shows my toddler has been into recently. Super Kitties, Spiderman and his Amazing Friends, Paw Patrol, PJ Masks. I hate them all.