TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Dec 2024 17:23
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That’s the end of Lower Decks?
Paramount doesn’t know how to handle the wonderful IP they own…
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
on 20 Dec 2024 17:31
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That’s tough. It can’t go forever.
I hope they take the things people loved about it and do more.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Dec 2024 17:33
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The stuff coming out in the pipeline just seems kinda… well, Strange New Worlds was pretty good, I’m looking forward to more of that.
Infynis@midwest.social
on 20 Dec 2024 23:04
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It could have gone on for longer though. They had more plans. The finale shows they had tons of options.
cybervseas@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 2024 17:47
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I loved Lower Decks, and I hope somehow those stories continue. Did people who are new to Star Trek enjoy it, too?
As an aside, I think that was something that made Prodigy fantastic: it was a serialized program with episodic stories that didn’t require any understanding of Star Trek beforehand. The main characters weren’t part of the Federation, so the audience got to learn alongside them.
socprof@masto.ai
on 20 Dec 2024 18:24
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@cybervseas@TheAlbatross LD might be harder for new people because there are so many call backs to other series and storylines. This stuff delights us trekkies but might be as great for new folks. @allstartrek#allStarTrek
jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
on 20 Dec 2024 21:05
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Except Moopsy. Everyone loves Moopsy.
hazeebabee@slrpnk.net
on 20 Dec 2024 22:50
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I had never watched startreck and i loved lower decks. I did know enough to get some of the basic references, but im sure some went over my head.
In all i think LD was a good starting point for me. I enjoyed the humor and how it didn’t take itself too seriously.
I’ve since tried another series (enterprise since it’s the first chronologically) and its fine though i do wish it was a bit more fun. I’m hoping I’ll enjoy some of the other iterations a bit more, and am looking forward to rewatching lower decks once I get back to where it’s at in the chronology.
Infynis@midwest.social
on 20 Dec 2024 23:06
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Definitely don’t watch chronologically. Enterprise is the last show I would use to get anyone into Star Trek. Even the original animated series would probably be better lol
USSMojave@startrek.website
on 20 Dec 2024 23:23
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I started watching Enterprise recently feeling the same way you do, and it’s honestly not that bad. The way they talk to each other and the overall vibe is VERY Next Gen, and it’s interesting how they’re 100ish years in the future while TOS is 200 years in the future, so their technology and even uniforms look almost exactly halfway between our tech and stuff and what we see in “traditional” Trek. The theme song though is definitely whack
Infynis@midwest.social
on 21 Dec 2024 00:04
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You misundstand me. I’m probably one of Enterprise’s biggest fans. It’s just not what I’d recommend for someone getting into Star Trek. It’s tone is different, and the roots of the franchise aren’t easy to see if you don’t know to look for them. I wouldn’t recommend Discovery as a first show for the same reason. Strange New Worlds though is an excellent option.
I’ve actually personally been getting a friend into Star Trek through Lower Decks and DS9. Once she was hooked, telling her there was a Lower Decks crossover in SNW got her onboard there as well. Now we’re kind of watching everything simultaneously lol
hazeebabee@slrpnk.net
on 21 Dec 2024 20:44
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Lol okay that makes sense. Maybe I’ll try jumping around a little more instead of powering through enterprise. Any recs on which to start with?
Infynis@midwest.social
on 21 Dec 2024 22:22
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Strange New Worlds, despite being a prequel, is a great place to start. Deep Space 9 is also really good for learning about Star Trek, and it’s probably the best written overall. You could also watch a Best of the Next Generation marathon. I’d recommend that over watching the whole thing, because TNG really shows it’s age sometimes.
The most important thing to remember is that most Star Trek shows take a little while to get off the ground. They usually find their feet around season 3 (that’s when Riker grew his beard).
hazeebabee@slrpnk.net
on 21 Dec 2024 22:27
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Okay cool, i appriciate the recs :) its kind of fun knowing there’s so much content to go through & such a huge base of fans
cybervseas@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 2024 23:23
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You might like The Orville, too.
hazeebabee@slrpnk.net
on 21 Dec 2024 20:41
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I did really like it :) the first 2 seasons were great, & i thought the 3rd was a bit overly serious but still enjoyable.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 22 Dec 2024 02:15
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Yay to season 4.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 21 Dec 2024 07:08
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I met someone who actually got into TNG because of Lower Decks.
Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Dec 2024 17:47
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My only dash of hope is there’ll be spinoffs.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 21 Dec 2024 07:11
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My joking theory is they did the weird Rutherford implant removal to make his live action costume easier. 😉
warmaster@lemmy.world
on 20 Dec 2024 17:50
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I fucking love this show. The fact it is canonical is simultaneously amazing and bonkers.
Well, they have effectively compartmentalized the damage to canon with the rift stuff.
Without spoiling too much, let’s just say I agree with Cool Boimler on this one.
Still it’s a fun romp and I like the riffs and easter eggs. Give us more!
Infynis@midwest.social
on 20 Dec 2024 23:07
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The rift stuff only affects the future. Everything that happened in Lower Decks is still fully canon
data1701d@startrek.website
on 21 Dec 2024 07:10
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It depends. The Cerritos is passingly mentioned in Prodigy, which suggests at least one version (probably ours) of the Cerritos is in the prime timeline.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net
on 21 Dec 2024 16:48
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I largely reject the notion of “canon”.
Others can enjoy canon if they like, but stories don’t need it, and plenty of great ones have well known, obvious paradoxes.
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That’s the end of Lower Decks?
Paramount doesn’t know how to handle the wonderful IP they own…
That’s tough. It can’t go forever.
I hope they take the things people loved about it and do more.
The stuff coming out in the pipeline just seems kinda… well, Strange New Worlds was pretty good, I’m looking forward to more of that.
It could have gone on for longer though. They had more plans. The finale shows they had tons of options.
I loved Lower Decks, and I hope somehow those stories continue. Did people who are new to Star Trek enjoy it, too?
As an aside, I think that was something that made Prodigy fantastic: it was a serialized program with episodic stories that didn’t require any understanding of Star Trek beforehand. The main characters weren’t part of the Federation, so the audience got to learn alongside them.
@cybervseas @TheAlbatross LD might be harder for new people because there are so many call backs to other series and storylines. This stuff delights us trekkies but might be as great for new folks. @allstartrek #allStarTrek
Except Moopsy. Everyone loves Moopsy.
I had never watched startreck and i loved lower decks. I did know enough to get some of the basic references, but im sure some went over my head.
In all i think LD was a good starting point for me. I enjoyed the humor and how it didn’t take itself too seriously.
I’ve since tried another series (enterprise since it’s the first chronologically) and its fine though i do wish it was a bit more fun. I’m hoping I’ll enjoy some of the other iterations a bit more, and am looking forward to rewatching lower decks once I get back to where it’s at in the chronology.
Definitely don’t watch chronologically. Enterprise is the last show I would use to get anyone into Star Trek. Even the original animated series would probably be better lol
I started watching Enterprise recently feeling the same way you do, and it’s honestly not that bad. The way they talk to each other and the overall vibe is VERY Next Gen, and it’s interesting how they’re 100ish years in the future while TOS is 200 years in the future, so their technology and even uniforms look almost exactly halfway between our tech and stuff and what we see in “traditional” Trek. The theme song though is definitely whack
You misundstand me. I’m probably one of Enterprise’s biggest fans. It’s just not what I’d recommend for someone getting into Star Trek. It’s tone is different, and the roots of the franchise aren’t easy to see if you don’t know to look for them. I wouldn’t recommend Discovery as a first show for the same reason. Strange New Worlds though is an excellent option.
I’ve actually personally been getting a friend into Star Trek through Lower Decks and DS9. Once she was hooked, telling her there was a Lower Decks crossover in SNW got her onboard there as well. Now we’re kind of watching everything simultaneously lol
Lol okay that makes sense. Maybe I’ll try jumping around a little more instead of powering through enterprise. Any recs on which to start with?
Strange New Worlds, despite being a prequel, is a great place to start. Deep Space 9 is also really good for learning about Star Trek, and it’s probably the best written overall. You could also watch a Best of the Next Generation marathon. I’d recommend that over watching the whole thing, because TNG really shows it’s age sometimes.
The most important thing to remember is that most Star Trek shows take a little while to get off the ground. They usually find their feet around season 3 (that’s when Riker grew his beard).
Okay cool, i appriciate the recs :) its kind of fun knowing there’s so much content to go through & such a huge base of fans
You might like The Orville, too.
I did really like it :) the first 2 seasons were great, & i thought the 3rd was a bit overly serious but still enjoyable.
Yay to season 4.
I met someone who actually got into TNG because of Lower Decks.
My only dash of hope is there’ll be spinoffs.
My joking theory is they did the weird Rutherford implant removal to make his live action costume easier. 😉
I fucking love this show. The fact it is canonical is simultaneously amazing and bonkers.
Well, they have effectively compartmentalized the damage to canon with the rift stuff.
Without spoiling too much, let’s just say I agree with Cool Boimler on this one.
Still it’s a fun romp and I like the riffs and easter eggs. Give us more!
The rift stuff only affects the future. Everything that happened in Lower Decks is still fully canon
It depends. The Cerritos is passingly mentioned in Prodigy, which suggests at least one version (probably ours) of the Cerritos is in the prime timeline.
I largely reject the notion of “canon”.
Others can enjoy canon if they like, but stories don’t need it, and plenty of great ones have well known, obvious paradoxes.
I’ll just add the famous Dwayne McDuffie piece on this, “Six degrees of St. Elsewhere”. RIP McDuffie.