WarmSoda@lemm.ee
on 03 Oct 2023 18:00
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I was not expecting the haunted house thing…
"After I moved out of the house,” he continued, “not because of the haunting — although it had become bothersome with noises, footsteps on stairs, voices in rooms that were empty and feelings of temperature changes and so forth.
“I moved out. Not because of the haunting though. But it was bothersome.”
Definitely something I could hear him saying. Why didn’t he just put down his Earl Grey, look up from his leatherbound book, and say, “You’re being quite bothersome!”? I think that would shut up anyone, ghost or not.
I would love for MacFarlane to write that exact scene into American Dad. I feel it would work just as well for Avery as it would for P Stew.
bobby_hill@lemmy.world
on 03 Oct 2023 19:17
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Or write it into the orville
Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
on 03 Oct 2023 18:15
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“I could be a severe bastard,” he writes. “My experiences at the Royal Shakespeare Company and the National Theatre had been intense and serious … On the TNG set, I grew angry with the conduct of my peers, and that’s when I called that meeting in which I lectured the cast for goofing off and responded to Denise Crosby’s, ‘We’ve got to have some fun sometimes, Patrick’ comment by saying, ‘We are not here, Denise, to have fun.'”
“In retrospect,” Stewart continues, “everyone, me included, finds this story hilarious. But in the moment, when the cast erupted in hysterics at my pompous declaration, I didn’t handle it well. I didn’t enjoy being laughed at. I stormed off the set and into my trailer, slamming the door.”
Stewart then details how Frakes and Spiner came to his trailer for a heart-to-heart chat.
“People respect you,” Spiner told him. “But I think you misjudged the situation here.”
Recalls Stewart: “He and Jonathan acknowledged that yes, there was too much goofing around and that it needed to be dialed back. But they also made it clear how off-putting it was — and not a case study in good leadership — for me to try to resolve the matter by lecturing and scolding the cast. I had failed to read the room, imposing RSC behavior on people accustomed to the ways of episodic television — which was, after all, what we were shooting.”
In short, he became angry because he was used to theater acting and tried to hold a tv production to theater’s standards.
theodewere@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 18:47
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he actually learns how to be a captain while playing the role, that's so awesome.. he gets a lecture from Number One and his Science Operations Officer on human behavior, it's just hilarious and beautiful, i'm dying here..
1simpletailer@startrek.website
on 03 Oct 2023 19:49
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You’re right it is beautiful! Not to be that guy though, but Data is Ops, not Science.
theodewere@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 20:25
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no, you're absolutely right, well noted.. i was having a moment haha..
1simpletailer@startrek.website
on 03 Oct 2023 20:44
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All good friend! I’m just too much of a Trek nerd to not correct it. It’s an easy mistake to make too, seeing as Data handles a lot of the science related stuff on the show and the Enterprise-D is notably lacking a Chief Science Officer. Behind the scenes Data was originally going to be in Sciences, but the producers didn’t like the way a blue uniform looked with his skin so they made him Ops.
theodewere@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 20:54
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that is awesome my friend, thank you.. you know i may have watched nearly every episode of that show, and not really been sure about his job, haha.. but i just naturally equate him with Spock, when i think about his relationship to the Captain character.. and the fact that Spiner's character is the one learning human emotions from square one makes the whole real world episode with Stewart (the ACADEMY man, for God's sake) even better..
Rayspekt@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 20:05
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I wonder if Frakes was doing the Riker pose while lecturing him.
hamburglar26@wilbo.tech
on 03 Oct 2023 20:43
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If they were seated he almost certainly performed the Riker maneuver.
Rayspekt@kbin.social
on 06 Oct 2023 10:43
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I don't know if it is against the chain of command to Riker maneuver you superior officer.
theodewere@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 20:57
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haha a little Good Cop / Bad Cop maybe, that would have been perfect
He probably swung a chair around and mounted it backwards.
Sharpiemarker@feddit.de
on 03 Oct 2023 18:49
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In short, he became angry because he was used to theater acting and tried to hold a tv production to theater’s standards.
It seems like a perfectly human mistake and an experience from which he learned.
magnetosphere@kbin.social
on 03 Oct 2023 22:34
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Yes. If he carried a grudge for years, that would make him a pompous ass. This, on the other hand, just sounds like someone making the adjustment to television acting from a stage career.
I like that his fellow cast members felt like they could talk to him about it. That alone says quite a bit.
There’s interviews with Frakes where he talks about stepping into the director’s role for a few episodes and quickly realizing that it was very difficult to do when the cast would goof off up until the word ACTION gets called.
So Stewart probably had a point, especially from production’s view.
MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
on 05 Oct 2023 15:02
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Neat.
Incidentally, Jonathan Frakes now directs fantastic episodes of television.
Many science fiction shows have had Jonathan Frakes direct just an episode or two, and they usually end up being favorites.
HumbleHobo@beehaw.org
on 03 Oct 2023 18:38
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Well I think I need to pick up this book, or at least the audiobook.
The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website
on 03 Oct 2023 18:44
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If he does the narration, I would pick up the audiobook in a heartbeat.
simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
on 03 Oct 2023 18:48
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Find an offer code to get a month free if your not already an Audible member 🙂
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 03 Oct 2023 19:28
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The article contains an audio excerpt of this very story.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
on 03 Oct 2023 18:39
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Listening to Patrick Stewart say, with full frustration in his voice “we are not here to have FUN” would have made me laugh him out too. God I would have killed to have footage of that
aaaa@lemmy.world
on 04 Oct 2023 15:22
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Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
on 04 Oct 2023 15:55
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The footage I’d like to see would be Patrick Stewart seeing Galaxy Quest for the first time. Actually, I’d kill to have that as a commentary for the Blu-ray. Hell, give me all the casts’ first reactions.
The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website
on 03 Oct 2023 18:40
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This is probably my favorite story about the filming of TNG. He wanted to take it very seriously, his cast mates were all goofing around too much, and the end result landed somewhere in the middle, which I think served the show well in the end. Patrick Stewart elevated the show, and it might not have been so successful otherwise.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 05 Oct 2023 03:54
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Is there anyone else here that feels that Patrick Stewart is violating the spirit of the SAG-AFTRA strike with his book promoting interviews?
While it’s likely his publisher wanted a fall release for the Christmas gift market, it seems really inappropriate that he’s out pitching how he wanted his show to end (with his real life wife getting another voice credit) or stories about TNG behind the scenes.
SAG members have been constrained from talking about the franchise in convention panels, or promoting their new shows, but he’s out there selling his book based on his career in the IP and distracting from Lower Decks which needs all the boost it can get.
It’s not making me admire Stewart, and settled any question of buying his book for the negative.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 05 Oct 2023 04:19
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I can see the argument that it’s splitting hairs, but he’s promoting the book, not his acting work or Star Trek as a franchise.
dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de
on 05 Oct 2023 15:46
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I was not expecting the haunted house thing…
“I moved out. Not because of the haunting though. But it was bothersome.”
Definitely something I could hear him saying. Why didn’t he just put down his Earl Grey, look up from his leatherbound book, and say, “You’re being quite bothersome!”? I think that would shut up anyone, ghost or not.
I would love for MacFarlane to write that exact scene into American Dad. I feel it would work just as well for Avery as it would for P Stew.
Or write it into the orville
In short, he became angry because he was used to theater acting and tried to hold a tv production to theater’s standards.
he actually learns how to be a captain while playing the role, that's so awesome.. he gets a lecture from Number One and his
ScienceOperations Officer on human behavior, it's just hilarious and beautiful, i'm dying here..You’re right it is beautiful! Not to be that guy though, but Data is Ops, not Science.
no, you're absolutely right, well noted.. i was having a moment haha..
All good friend! I’m just too much of a Trek nerd to not correct it. It’s an easy mistake to make too, seeing as Data handles a lot of the science related stuff on the show and the Enterprise-D is notably lacking a Chief Science Officer. Behind the scenes Data was originally going to be in Sciences, but the producers didn’t like the way a blue uniform looked with his skin so they made him Ops.
that is awesome my friend, thank you.. you know i may have watched nearly every episode of that show, and not really been sure about his job, haha.. but i just naturally equate him with Spock, when i think about his relationship to the Captain character.. and the fact that Spiner's character is the one learning human emotions from square one makes the whole real world episode with Stewart (the ACADEMY man, for God's sake) even better..
I wonder if Frakes was doing the Riker pose while lecturing him.
If they were seated he almost certainly performed the Riker maneuver.
I don't know if it is against the chain of command to Riker maneuver you superior officer.
haha a little Good Cop / Bad Cop maybe, that would have been perfect
He probably swung a chair around and mounted it backwards.
It seems like a perfectly human mistake and an experience from which he learned.
Yes. If he carried a grudge for years, that would make him a pompous ass. This, on the other hand, just sounds like someone making the adjustment to television acting from a stage career.
I like that his fellow cast members felt like they could talk to him about it. That alone says quite a bit.
There’s interviews with Frakes where he talks about stepping into the director’s role for a few episodes and quickly realizing that it was very difficult to do when the cast would goof off up until the word ACTION gets called.
So Stewart probably had a point, especially from production’s view.
Neat.
Incidentally, Jonathan Frakes now directs fantastic episodes of television.
Many science fiction shows have had Jonathan Frakes direct just an episode or two, and they usually end up being favorites.
Well I think I need to pick up this book, or at least the audiobook.
If he does the narration, I would pick up the audiobook in a heartbeat.
@The_Picard_Maneuver
@startrek.website @HumbleHobo
He does! 🙂🖖
https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/B0C3VW4PVY?source_code=ASSORAP0511160007
Omg, thank you!
@The_Picard_Maneuver
Find an offer code to get a month free if your not already an Audible member 🙂
The article contains an audio excerpt of this very story.
Listening to Patrick Stewart say, with full frustration in his voice “we are not here to have FUN” would have made me laugh him out too. God I would have killed to have footage of that
Would you settle for Brent Spiner doing his best Patrick Stewart about the situation?
The footage I’d like to see would be Patrick Stewart seeing Galaxy Quest for the first time. Actually, I’d kill to have that as a commentary for the Blu-ray. Hell, give me all the casts’ first reactions.
This is probably my favorite story about the filming of TNG. He wanted to take it very seriously, his cast mates were all goofing around too much, and the end result landed somewhere in the middle, which I think served the show well in the end. Patrick Stewart elevated the show, and it might not have been so successful otherwise.
Is there anyone else here that feels that Patrick Stewart is violating the spirit of the SAG-AFTRA strike with his book promoting interviews?
While it’s likely his publisher wanted a fall release for the Christmas gift market, it seems really inappropriate that he’s out pitching how he wanted his show to end (with his real life wife getting another voice credit) or stories about TNG behind the scenes.
SAG members have been constrained from talking about the franchise in convention panels, or promoting their new shows, but he’s out there selling his book based on his career in the IP and distracting from Lower Decks which needs all the boost it can get.
It’s not making me admire Stewart, and settled any question of buying his book for the negative.
I can see the argument that it’s splitting hairs, but he’s promoting the book, not his acting work or Star Trek as a franchise.
Heh