from ValueSubtracted@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website on 02 Nov 2024 15:47
https://startrek.website/post/16030495
I’m reposting this because the list is now complete.
Edit: Except Garrett? Maybe she won’t get one?
Fuzz (The Maniac)
Fuzz can switch from hysterical laughter to filter-free anger at the drop of a dime.
He’s a fun-loving guy until he isn’t. Just don’t suggest anger management sessions to this Section 31 operative.
Melle (The Lover)
While most Deltans take an oath of celibacy upon joining Starfleet, Melle uses her irresistible magnetism for Section 31’s benefit. After all, she’s in a league of her own.
Zeph (The Machine)
Mech life ain’t just about brute force. The human Zeph lives, works, and everything in between, inside his mechanical exoskeleton, drawing out the right tools in his work as a Section 31 operative.
Quasi (The Enigma)
No one’s ever met a Chameloid’s true form before, perpetuating their myth-like status as they never show their real appearance, which suits Quasi perfectly as a member of Section 31. He’s disinterested in the delusion of “utopia” and most other things, especially you.
Alok Sahar (Mastermind)
Alok Sahar is a strategic mastermind who leads a special team of Section 31 operatives. Sahar is driven to make amends for actions in his past by serving the greater good, which involves tracking down and recruiting Emperor Philippa Georgiou for a covert mission.
Philippa Georgiou (The Emperor)
Unable to return to the Terran Empire, Emperor Philippa Georgiou lives under a new alias as owner of The Baraam, a nightclub operating outside of Federation space.
That is, until Section 31 enlists her to help protect the Federation while also facing the sins of her past.
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There’s been speculation over whether he’s a Vulcan or a Romulan, but I think this description points to him being a Vulcan who rejects Surak’s teachings.
This might be the first confirmation that she is, in fact, Deltan. Seems like an asset for spy shit.
“Nightclub owner” is pretty far from where I expected her to land after “Terra Firma.” It’s kind of funny that they describe her as “unable to return to the Terran Empire,” when that is something she decidely did not want to do by the end.
The scene of Georgiou being recruited on Qo’noS by Leland was a deleted scene from Disco season one, so canonically, Georgiou wasn’t not running that bar/drug den/brothel in the Orion district. Still, it kinda bumps me that they’re revisiting the idea of her being recruited by S31 while operating some sort of drinking establishment.
Maybe they can delve into Philipa’s backstory about always having wanted to run a little hole in the wall, and just fell into being the despotic emperor of the horniest fascist galactic state.
This makes Section 31 sound like Oceans 11. Which would be fine if this were the first mention of Section 31 and what they are about. This is nothing like the Section 31 from DS9, maybe there is some kind of explanation for that, we’ll see.
I dunno, from what we’ve seen on DS9 and Enterprise, Section 31 is willing to recruit operatives to fulfil their goals - we saw that in Malcom Reed and Bashir as Starfleet personnel, but also Koval, who was a Romulan agent.
A S31 agent like Alok Sahar, who operates outside the Federation and has the authority to recruit people to achieve the ogranization’s goals, makes a kind of sense to me. A Deltan and a Chameloid both make sense from a spycraft perspective.
If anything, this iteration of S31 could show a progression from the out-in-the-open, “special forces” iteration of the group that we saw in Discovery, to the complete disavowal of DS9.
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My expectations for this show could not be any lower.
*movie
Whaaa… Wasn’t this going to be a show? When did that happen?
They announced the pivot to a streaming movie in April 2023.
Well that’s good news — at least it’s one-and-done and won’t divert resources and money from SNW.
I really don’t think that’s how it works.
DS9-era Star Trek: Beware of the corruption and moral decay that comes with secret agencies, laws do not matter to them. Is all that rly worth it, even if it is in the name of “national security”?
Discovery-era “Star Trek”: We cooperated with the CIA to make the depiction of Section 31 more realistic and now we are making a separate film about them 🤠🤠
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I don’t want to see Space Hitler again. This is against everything that Star Trek stands for.
The idea that a person can do horrible things but still try to reject their old ways and do things differently is against everything that Star Trek stands for?
Yes. Killing billions of people is nothing you just regret and go on with your life.
Yeah, I guess I forgot that the central tenet of Star Trek is that people are either Good or Bad, and there’s no room for change or improvement.
Go ahead and show me where in Discovery Space Hitler asks for forgiveness or mourns about the billions of people she had killed. A redemption arc needs to ask for redemption as a first step.
In “Terra Firma” she literally goes back and tries to do things differently.
Needing to “ask for redemption” suggests there’s a higher power administering cosmic judgment, which is another tenet of the ethos I was unaware of.