ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 15:04
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Paramount+ today announced that the fan-favorite original series Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has been renewed for a fifth and final six-episode season ahead of the third season premiere this summer.
Huh…
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 15:22
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So a half season + a one-hour series finale?
Having only 5 seasons seems the new normal since they haven’t been able to actually produce one season per calendar year and actors’ contracts run 7 years.
But having a short season seems weird, like some kind of negotiated compromise.
This is just going to feed the ‘Kurtzman is done when his contract expires …’ speculation.
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
on 12 Jun 15:27
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Agreed, seems weird. But I’m optimistic when a series ending is announced well in advance. It means they’ll have time to finish it properly instead of hedging their bets, uncertain if they’ll be renewed.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 16:23
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We have to keep in mind that we’ve only seen 20 of 46 episodes, less than half the full run.
I believe that the new benchmark for selling a licence for reruns on other streamers and linear has dropped from over 70 episodes to a bit over 40 based on various industry reports. So this definitely puts SNW above that threshold.
This does raise the question though whether there is a plan to morph this into some kind of TOS continuation past year 5 and TAS.
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip
on 12 Jun 22:39
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I’m sure they’ve thought about switching over, whether as a continuation of TOS or telling new stories mixed in with it. I would still watch if they kept it fairly similar, as I like the cast they’ve put together.
I would prefer to see them tell new stories in a new era with a new ship and a new crew though. However, if they decided to continue in the same era, I personally would like to see a La’an led show. It could run alongside the TOS continuity, so they could even add in those appearances by Kirk and Spock that you know they would want to do. They didn’t ask me to pitch for them though, so I doubt it’ll happen! :)
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website
on 13 Jun 03:47
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I was hoping that SNW would focus on Pike and his crew and less on the legacy characters.
But it seems Goldsman has had his ideas about it since the early 1970s and he’s fulfilling his fan dreams, as an EP and writer, of filling in the backstories of the characters he and we love. I can’t naysay that and it certainly sold the suits on 5 seasons of an excellent show.
stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip
on 13 Jun 10:59
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While I knew we would be seeing Spock, I was also hoping there would be fewer established TOS characters. As you said though, the plan seems to be working so far. I’ve definitely been enjoying it!
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 15:28
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I mean, I think the Kurtzman era has been quite successful, but he’s had the job for quite a while now. It’s possible he’ll choose to move on once his contract is up.
But yeah, with Paramount in such a state of upheaval…nothing surprises me any more.
I’ve been hearing about how Kurtzman is days away from being fired since Discovery’s first season. If he does choose to step down, there’ll still be no convincing those people that he wasn’t forced out in disgrace.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 18:15
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Oh, absolutely.
Mr_Briney@universeodon.com
on 12 Jun 16:37
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@ValueSubtracted I definitely think the plan is to spin it into a TOS-era show with Kirk. It looks like they're setting up La'an to be a romance with him by giving her an experience like the City at the Edge of Forever, and they've been teasing him and Scotty pretty hard.
I wonder what the format will be though. I doubt they'd just do more episodic Star Trek with Captain Kirk
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 16:42
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I have my doubts about them openly overlapping with TOS.
But with the current state of things, I wouldn’t bet on anything one way or another.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Jun 16:46
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When they try anything new, the fanbase seems to revolt ahead of time and they seem to do best when they go after nostalgia bait. I’d be surprised if they did anything else myself.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 16:48
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TBH, fans revolt in either direction. We’re all very well-adjusted people.
Kirk@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 17:47
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I say this as someone who generally liked all the new shows, but since the premiere of Disco in 2017 this whole era of Trek has felt unstable.
Again, I liked everything that was produced, but I also feel that these “premiere TV” styled, $5 million+ budget/episode series are clearly not sustainable business model for these shows that are also only on air a couple of weeks out of the year.
hopesdead@startrek.website
on 12 Jun 18:43
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Think positively. We all knew this had to come to an end eventually. This is a prequel that leads into TOS.
Seán Ferrick of TrekCulture has pointed out that Game of Thrones’ final season was six episodes, half which were longer length. So there is a possibility that these episodes will be longer.
I was hoping for some news on this after I noticed them filming season 4 at my work this week. Shame they’re ending it at 5 with a half season. Its the only live action trek I’ve thoroughly enjoyed since the Rick Berman days.
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Huh…
So a half season + a one-hour series finale?
Having only 5 seasons seems the new normal since they haven’t been able to actually produce one season per calendar year and actors’ contracts run 7 years.
But having a short season seems weird, like some kind of negotiated compromise.
This is just going to feed the ‘Kurtzman is done when his contract expires …’ speculation.
Agreed, seems weird. But I’m optimistic when a series ending is announced well in advance. It means they’ll have time to finish it properly instead of hedging their bets, uncertain if they’ll be renewed.
We have to keep in mind that we’ve only seen 20 of 46 episodes, less than half the full run.
I believe that the new benchmark for selling a licence for reruns on other streamers and linear has dropped from over 70 episodes to a bit over 40 based on various industry reports. So this definitely puts SNW above that threshold.
This does raise the question though whether there is a plan to morph this into some kind of TOS continuation past year 5 and TAS.
I’m sure they’ve thought about switching over, whether as a continuation of TOS or telling new stories mixed in with it. I would still watch if they kept it fairly similar, as I like the cast they’ve put together.
I would prefer to see them tell new stories in a new era with a new ship and a new crew though. However, if they decided to continue in the same era, I personally would like to see a La’an led show. It could run alongside the TOS continuity, so they could even add in those appearances by Kirk and Spock that you know they would want to do. They didn’t ask me to pitch for them though, so I doubt it’ll happen! :)
I was hoping that SNW would focus on Pike and his crew and less on the legacy characters.
But it seems Goldsman has had his ideas about it since the early 1970s and he’s fulfilling his fan dreams, as an EP and writer, of filling in the backstories of the characters he and we love. I can’t naysay that and it certainly sold the suits on 5 seasons of an excellent show.
While I knew we would be seeing Spock, I was also hoping there would be fewer established TOS characters. As you said though, the plan seems to be working so far. I’ve definitely been enjoying it!
I mean, I think the Kurtzman era has been quite successful, but he’s had the job for quite a while now. It’s possible he’ll choose to move on once his contract is up.
But yeah, with Paramount in such a state of upheaval…nothing surprises me any more.
I’ve been hearing about how Kurtzman is days away from being fired since Discovery’s first season. If he does choose to step down, there’ll still be no convincing those people that he wasn’t forced out in disgrace.
Oh, absolutely.
@ValueSubtracted I definitely think the plan is to spin it into a TOS-era show with Kirk. It looks like they're setting up La'an to be a romance with him by giving her an experience like the City at the Edge of Forever, and they've been teasing him and Scotty pretty hard.
I wonder what the format will be though. I doubt they'd just do more episodic Star Trek with Captain Kirk
I have my doubts about them openly overlapping with TOS.
But with the current state of things, I wouldn’t bet on anything one way or another.
When they try anything new, the fanbase seems to revolt ahead of time and they seem to do best when they go after nostalgia bait. I’d be surprised if they did anything else myself.
TBH, fans revolt in either direction. We’re all very well-adjusted people.
I wanna eat my cake and have it too damn it.
I say this as someone who generally liked all the new shows, but since the premiere of Disco in 2017 this whole era of Trek has felt unstable.
Again, I liked everything that was produced, but I also feel that these “premiere TV” styled, $5 million+ budget/episode series are clearly not sustainable business model for these shows that are also only on air a couple of weeks out of the year.
Think positively. We all knew this had to come to an end eventually. This is a prequel that leads into TOS.
Seán Ferrick of TrekCulture has pointed out that Game of Thrones’ final season was six episodes, half which were longer length. So there is a possibility that these episodes will be longer.
EDIT: I misspelled Seán’s name earlier.
Risky comparison. There are some who feel the final season of Game of Thrones was a rushed mess.
Season 3 isn’t out yet and they’re talking about season 5. I’m not rushing is a concern here.
Is actually kind of comforting they have a plan to give it a good conclusion.
I was hoping for some news on this after I noticed them filming season 4 at my work this week. Shame they’re ending it at 5 with a half season. Its the only live action trek I’ve thoroughly enjoyed since the Rick Berman days.