'It's obvious that users are frustrated': consumer rights group accuses Microsoft of not providing a 'viable solution' for Windows 10 users who can't upgrade to Windows 11 (www.techradar.com)
from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to tech@programming.dev on 06 Jul 13:13
https://lemmy.nz/post/25185621

  • Microsoft recently threw a lifeline to consumers, offering alternatives to paying $30 for extended support for Windows 10
  • Public Interest Research Group thinks this doesn’t go far enough in terms of avoiding an impending e-waste calamity
  • The organization suggests Microsoft considers providing longer-term support for Windows 10, or relaxes the spec requirements for Windows 11

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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz on 06 Jul 13:25 next collapse

This is the end of the road for microsoft.

Talaraine@fedia.io on 06 Jul 14:04 collapse

Yep, already gone and working to convert others to Linux.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 13:33 next collapse

I mean it’s the first bullet point. There is a path and MS provided it. MS wants to turn Windows into recurring revenue so they start charging $30/year for patches under the excuse of Win 11.

Nednarb44@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 13:38 collapse

$30 a year to start. If they are that enough people are willing to pay it, it will inevitability go up. Imagine paying $10-20 a month to use your operating system lol

imrighthere@lemmy.ca on 06 Jul 15:23 next collapse

Around 25 years ago, my hardware guy and I read a roadmap from microsoft. The bottom line was, they wanted to move back to a thin client model. They told everyone what they were going to do. You don’t have to imagine, they told everyone 25 years ago that this is what is coming. You will be paying monthly.

Giloron@programming.dev on 06 Jul 16:40 collapse

I remember this too, but can’t seem to find it.

It was called the October document, Halloween document, or something like that.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jul 16:54 next collapse

You don’t have to imagine! It’s already an option!

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 17:13 collapse

Why did you jump from $30/year to $120-$240 a year? You seriously think Microsoft would just randomly quadruple (at least) the cost?

grue@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 17:59 collapse

You seriously think they wouldn’t, if they thought they could get away with it?

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 19:06 collapse

There is no world where the retail cost of a software product was literally quadrupled based purely on demand, lol.

Accept that it was a ridiculous exaggeration on your part.

The funniest part of this is that it’s already ridiculous at the lowest end of the range you gave, but you went up to $240/year. “Oh yeah, if lots of people buy it, we’ll just 8x the price, surely that won’t torpedo the sales numbers”.

grue@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 19:57 collapse

You should check usernames before replying.

otacon239@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 13:36 next collapse

Someone’s ears are ringing…

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d102b669-a1d0-4faa-8aa1-d8130b277d22.png">

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 14:27 next collapse

Our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds, will welcome you with open arms.

drspod@lemmy.ml on 06 Jul 14:57 collapse

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linus Torvalds, is in fact, GNU/Linus Torvalds, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linus Torvalds.

gofsckyourself@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 20:10 collapse

Tux has two giant abs?

ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Jul 14:37 next collapse

Trash article to boot, if you read it and saw they were quoting another article the whole time, why didn’t you post the primary source?

Zephorah@discuss.online on 06 Jul 14:39 next collapse

Linux.

That said, it’s not for everyone. I don’t want to be tech support for relatives who can’t figure out how to use AirPods or how not download more bloatware during the course of general home computer use.

Needing one patch for one thing would mean a new computer because “nothing works” for at least one relative.

StitchInTime@piefed.social on 06 Jul 15:08 next collapse

I’ve been considering putting a parent on Fedora Kinoite. Less to break, and they understand the App Store concept so just using flatpacks isn’t far fetched for them.

(edit: parent, not patent. Curse you autocorrect!)

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Jul 17:53 collapse

putting a patent on something that already exists? what are you on about?

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 18:24 next collapse

It happens all the time. Nintendo is currently using this tactic to harass the Palworld developers.

Patents are unethical and need to be abolished.

StitchInTime@piefed.social on 06 Jul 19:28 collapse

Whoops. Auto correct. Parent, not patent. I have a parent who keeps getting their machine infected with garbage.

Pika@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jul 15:57 collapse

this right here is ultimately why I haven’t moved my relatives to Mint. It usually works but, about time it doesn’t I don’t want to have to explain to someone who doesn’t know what a browser is, how to run commands on the terminal or how to find an error log.

FizzyOrange@programming.dev on 06 Jul 16:41 collapse

Yeah there’s a huge difference between “works 98% of the time” and “works 99.8%” of the time, even though they are both “works most of the time”.

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Jul 17:53 collapse

i will however point out that the 0.2% of the time that windows doesn’t work has in my experience been it refusing to use the perfectly functional ethernet connection with absolutely no way to interrogate what it thinks is wrong, then i plug the same cable into a linux laptop and it works perfectly fine

hitmyspot@aussie.zone on 07 Jul 04:27 next collapse

Haha, yes, with windows, you don’t correct the errant setting, you reset the network settings and try again.

FizzyOrange@programming.dev on 07 Jul 07:01 collapse

Funny ethernet was the most common issue with Linux at a previous workplace. For some reason it would only get like 10 Mbps. Buggy driver presumably. I’m not sure they ever solved it (I had a Mac.)

We’re talking about normal people here so they don’t really have the option of debugging it either. They can only Google for other people’s solutions or try resetting/rebooting everything. So although on Linux it’s technically possible to fix any issue (e.g. on Windows leaving a playstation controller plugged in prevents sleep and there’s nothing I can do to fix it), in practice on Linux there’s nothing normal people can do to fix that sort of stuff either.

otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jul 15:03 next collapse

The solution is, and has always rhymed with Linux.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 06 Jul 16:42 next collapse

rhymed with Linux.

Schlinux?

Tikiporch@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 17:20 collapse

A Canuck’s buttocks.

lobut@lemmy.ca on 06 Jul 18:59 next collapse

Unix?

otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jul 19:01 collapse

Hello, OG. 🤘🏼

namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev on 06 Jul 22:57 collapse

Yeah! At this point, Windows is even worse than Minix!

Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jul 18:23 collapse

Microsofts plan

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQQohcHk9Q

mindbleach@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jul 21:22 collapse

Shubbabang! There’s a name I haven’t heard since the Homestuck days.