Microsoft Follows Google on a Controversial Decision - gHacks Tech News (www.ghacks.net)
from melp@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 04:55
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sexy_peach@feddit.org on 19 Feb 05:17 next collapse

Stupid timeline. We’re back in the times of kings naming the seas

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Feb 13:45 collapse
vk6flab@lemmy.radio on 19 Feb 05:29 next collapse

I was lead to believe that this bullshit was limited to the country where the Orange Fascist is in charge.

Not so.

This screenshot was just taken by me in Australia.

<img alt="Idiotic renaming of a body of water triggered by the Orange Fascist in charge" src="https://lemmy.radio/pictrs/image/8301c1ec-6dac-4a2a-8b7c-dc82f85c3a93.png">

dan@upvote.au on 19 Feb 05:57 next collapse

It’s been changed in the Geographic Names Information System which is the official government system used for naming geographic things in the USA. Every US-based mapping system will eventually pull in the update.

pineapplepizza@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 08:19 collapse

The comment you replied to was talking about regions outside of the USA. Specifically Australia who do not use a US based mapping system.

Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Feb 09:05 next collapse

Google Maps is US-based whether you use it in the US or anywhere else

dan@upvote.au on 19 Feb 09:22 collapse

Google Maps is US-based. And even if it wasn’t, it’s still going to use official US data for US locations, just like they use official Australian data for Australian locations. If Australia renamed the Sydney Harbour Bridge to Bridgey McBridgeface, they’d show the new name even if you view it from a different country.

sanzky@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 10:46 collapse

saying the gulf of Mexico is an US location is like saying the Pacific Ocean is an US location.

dan@upvote.au on 19 Feb 17:53 collapse

The part north of the Mexico - US maritime border is US territory and the US can name it whatever it wants.

sanzky@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 06:17 collapse

it is worse when you notice than other places with two names do not use that schema.

Google maps shows “Rio Bravo” only when in spanish not Rio Bravo (Rio Grande).

Powderhorn@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 09:58 collapse

Wait till people find out much of it runs north-south through New Mexico, which is part of the U.S., hence having to specify that fact on their license plates, and despite fans of the Terminator franchise having seen the gorge bridge just out of Taos. The bridge over the Rio Grande just south of Colorado.

You want to get me going on rivers? Colorado’s my starting point. How the hell do we have two of those?

jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Feb 05:32 next collapse

Just a reminder that alternatives like open street maps and Here WeGo exist and are not taking marching orders from Trump.

Scrollone@feddit.it on 19 Feb 05:46 next collapse

European Google Maps alternatives:

  • Magic Earth
  • Organic Maps
  • GeoVelo (specific for bikes)
  • OSMand
melp@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 07:52 next collapse

Magic Earth Organic Maps GeoVelo (specific for bikes) OSMand

Nice! Thanks!

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 13:10 next collapse

Wait so it also shows that in europe?

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 13:48 collapse

No, it shows Gulf of Mexico. The commenter just wanted to give some good alternatives that people could use

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 14:06 collapse

Oh ok good. Yeah, I’m in the USA and I am trying to add more content as fast as I can into open maps so that these alternatives could be more useful.

k_rol@lemmy.ca on 19 Feb 14:12 next collapse

Thanks for doing that ☺️

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 15:32 collapse

Sorry, I misread your question. Yes, google maps shows “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)” in Europe as well :(

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 16:43 collapse

Well at least the america part is between parenthesis, but fuck Google, Apple, and Microsoft for bowing to this orange turd.

Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Feb 14:09 next collapse

Yandex maps

/s

Scrollone@feddit.it on 19 Feb 16:04 collapse

lol yeah maybe we should be more specific when we talk about Europe

Teknevra@literature.cafe on 19 Feb 15:35 next collapse

Idk if it’s European, but there’s also Sygic Maps

sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech on 19 Feb 22:46 collapse

Magic Earth is also pretty good for cycling, though I will be checking out GeoVelo

dan@upvote.au on 19 Feb 05:51 next collapse

As far as I can tell, none of them are actually doing it right? The presidential order to rename the Gulf of Mexico was just for the portion of it that’s considered part of the US. The rest of it is still supposed to be called the Gulf of Mexico.

rename as the “Gulf of America” the U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba in the area formerly named as the Gulf of Mexico

whitehouse.gov/…/restoring-names-that-honor-ameri…

ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc on 19 Feb 06:24 next collapse

Y’all’s arguing about semantics, meanwhile USA becomes an absolute monarchy in the latest EO.

Powderhorn@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 10:16 collapse

While true, that’s another topic of discussion.

ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth on 19 Feb 06:47 next collapse

Does anyone know a good mapping software for public transport? I like open street map but it is no good for busses.

melp@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 07:51 collapse

I was using something called TRANSIT

Opinionhaver@feddit.uk on 19 Feb 07:12 next collapse

What’s the problem with calling it Gulf of America? To me that just seems like an objectively better name. You guys do realise that Mexico is in America too, right?

Steve@communick.news on 19 Feb 07:51 next collapse

Yah. I’m torn. On the one hand it’s kind of stupid and pointless to change the names of things. On the other hand If your changing the name, Gulf of America is probably the best option. The real point of doing it is to give the media something marketable to talk about instead of the more boringly important things going on. Which for the second time tonight, gets me dangerously close to a long rant about the shitty media we have.

Flax_vert@feddit.uk on 19 Feb 12:29 next collapse

I don’t think it’s the act that’s bad, just the undertones and the guy it’s coming from. Same thing with Mariann Budde 😂

pupbiru@aussie.zone on 19 Feb 13:25 collapse

the problem is not with the change: the problem is with the implementation… we have international organisations that manage things like place names, and the president of the US doesn’t have the authority to just go ahead and change an internationally agreed upon thing. in the US? perhaps… but it’s bat shit insane that globally we now see both names. it’s like trump saying everything globally has to default to fahrenheit and feet and google etc just complying without question

but also, as other commenters have mentioned: there’s no real issue with the original name; it’s just nationalism and racism that triggered the change

Opinionhaver@feddit.uk on 19 Feb 13:34 collapse

Google and Apple are US companies though. I’m not aware of any international organizations simply just accepting the new name like that and I doubt the people in Mexico for example will start calling it that either. It seems like people are making out this to be a bigger issue than it is. Anyone is free to keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico either. I still call Facebook, Twitter and Turkey by their original names too and I’ve yet to encounter a single person not understanding what I’m talking about.

pupbiru@aussie.zone on 19 Feb 13:51 collapse

I’m not aware of any international organizations simply just accepting the new name

that’s exactly the point: there are international bodies that name these things. the arrogance of all of this is astounding. the US president doesn’t get to just snap his fingers and have the world say “yes mr president” and bow down to it…

gulf of america

is

not

it’s

name

melp@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 07:55 next collapse

Well… at least one non beehawer found themselves on my block list. Anyway.

ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 14:48 next collapse

Just brilliant. You created a very mild and civil honeypot for fascist sympathizers.

“I think ze golfen ze amerikkkanner ist ein guten name, Herr Garbistch”

🤳😯✍️✍️✍️

melp@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 16:54 collapse

It’s weird they’re in the tech community more than the US politic one.

ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 17:20 collapse

Credulity and technical competence are definitely not mutually exclusive.

melp@beehaw.org on 19 Feb 18:31 collapse

Oh, i meant in the beehaw forums. There’s more apologists on this side of beehaw than over on US Policy. Sorry. Wasn’t clear.

Jack@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 02:32 collapse

Because they blocked you? Maybe they don’t want to see posts from people who don’t summarize the articles in the subject/title?

(The current subject is from the source, “Microsoft Follows Google on a Controversial Decision - gHacks Tech News”.)

melp@beehaw.org on 20 Feb 05:27 collapse

No. I blocked them.

JokeDeity@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 13:49 next collapse

I feel like this and a few other moves by the Trumpler admin are meant to divide everyone’s attention from the stuff that’s really going to destroy the planet as we know it.

pr06lefs@lemmy.ml on 19 Feb 14:48 next collapse

Welcome to the United States of Licking Trumps Asshole

Vaggumon@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 20:45 collapse

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