autotldr@lemmings.world
on 29 Jun 2024 07:05
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Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI, said this week that machine-learning companies can scrape most content published online and use it to train neural networks because it’s essentially “freeware.”
Shortly afterwards the Center for Investigative Reporting sued OpenAI and its largest investor Microsoft “for using the nonprofit news organization’s content without permission or offering compensation.”
Also, in 2022, several unidentified developers sued OpenAI and GitHub based on claims that the organizations used publicly posted programming code to train generative models in violation of software licensing terms
Most people posting content online as individuals will have compromised their rights in some way by accepting the Terms of Service agreements offered by major social media platforms.
The fact that OpenAI and others making AI models are striking content deals with major publishers shows that a strong brand, deep pockets, and a legal team can bring large technology operations to the negotiating table.
People will stop making work available online, they predict, if it just gets used to power AI models that reduce the marginal cost of content creation to zero and deprive creators of the possibility of any reward.
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t3rmit3@beehaw.org
on 29 Jun 2024 07:53
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There is leaked Windows source code online… Is that also freeware for me to train an OS-building model on?
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de
on 29 Jun 2024 08:12
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Sorry, you need high quality data for training.
vrek@programming.dev
on 29 Jun 2024 12:44
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Seems like we’re all in agreement that all information should be free, I look forward to them open-sourcing every proprietary bit of code they have
reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml
on 29 Jun 2024 12:02
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I wish Microsoft had anything worth taking for free
renard_roux@beehaw.org
on 01 Jul 2024 09:14
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Games?
tesseract@beehaw.org
on 01 Jul 2024 04:04
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The sort of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance that these subhuman c-suite employ to justify stealing everyone else’s data while demonizing sharing of their data, is just infuriating. If these scumbags were incarcerated for a day each for every time they showed this hypocrisy, they would all rot in the jails for their entire lifetime, perhaps more.
renard_roux@beehaw.org
on 01 Jul 2024 09:16
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Lifetime jail + lifetime jail for X generations of offspring, depending on severity?
Or instead of jailing children at birth, maybe just confiscating X yachts, depending on severity.
tesseract@beehaw.org
on 01 Jul 2024 10:13
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No. Just leave their corpses in the jail for multiple lifetimes.
renard_roux@beehaw.org
on 02 Jul 2024 08:45
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Isn’t that a bit too much like beating a dead horse?
tesseract@beehaw.org
on 11 Jul 2024 15:37
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Wasn’t that the point behind hanging, drawing and quartering?
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz
on 01 Jul 2024 09:56
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Ooc: Hey you ! Take this laptop !
jarfil@beehaw.org
on 01 Jul 2024 13:34
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Using the term “freeware” is silly, but consider this:
Is the act of reading/watching something, equivalent to making a copy? Freedom of thought is an agreement much older than the 1990s, it has nothing to do with copyright, and all to do with secrecy. If something is made public, then it isn’t secret, so obviously anyone can read/watch it, be it with a wetware neural network, or an AI neural network. Making an exact copy is either plagiarism, or copyright infringement… but abstracting a style, then applying it to some other data, is “inspiration”.
Imagine a website with a licensing disclaimer like “you are allowed to read the content, but not to comprehend or express any thoughts based on it”. Nonsense, right?
intensely_human@lemm.ee
on 01 Jul 2024 15:57
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They’ve been waiting a while to use this stock image.
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Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI, said this week that machine-learning companies can scrape most content published online and use it to train neural networks because it’s essentially “freeware.” Shortly afterwards the Center for Investigative Reporting sued OpenAI and its largest investor Microsoft “for using the nonprofit news organization’s content without permission or offering compensation.” Also, in 2022, several unidentified developers sued OpenAI and GitHub based on claims that the organizations used publicly posted programming code to train generative models in violation of software licensing terms Most people posting content online as individuals will have compromised their rights in some way by accepting the Terms of Service agreements offered by major social media platforms. The fact that OpenAI and others making AI models are striking content deals with major publishers shows that a strong brand, deep pockets, and a legal team can bring large technology operations to the negotiating table. People will stop making work available online, they predict, if it just gets used to power AI models that reduce the marginal cost of content creation to zero and deprive creators of the possibility of any reward. — Saved 74% of original text.
There is leaked Windows source code online… Is that also freeware for me to train an OS-building model on?
Sorry, you need high quality data for training.
The Linux source code is also online…
Seems like we’re all in agreement that all information should be free, I look forward to them open-sourcing every proprietary bit of code they have
I wish Microsoft had anything worth taking for free
Games?
The sort of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance that these subhuman c-suite employ to justify stealing everyone else’s data while demonizing sharing of their data, is just infuriating. If these scumbags were incarcerated for a day each for every time they showed this hypocrisy, they would all rot in the jails for their entire lifetime, perhaps more.
Lifetime jail + lifetime jail for X generations of offspring, depending on severity?
Or instead of jailing children at birth, maybe just confiscating X yachts, depending on severity.
No. Just leave their corpses in the jail for multiple lifetimes.
Isn’t that a bit too much like beating a dead horse?
Wasn’t that the point behind hanging, drawing and quartering?
Ooc: Hey you ! Take this laptop !
Using the term “freeware” is silly, but consider this:
Is the act of reading/watching something, equivalent to making a copy? Freedom of thought is an agreement much older than the 1990s, it has nothing to do with copyright, and all to do with secrecy. If something is made public, then it isn’t secret, so obviously anyone can read/watch it, be it with a wetware neural network, or an AI neural network. Making an exact copy is either plagiarism, or copyright infringement… but abstracting a style, then applying it to some other data, is “inspiration”.
Imagine a website with a licensing disclaimer like “you are allowed to read the content, but not to comprehend or express any thoughts based on it”. Nonsense, right?
They’ve been waiting a while to use this stock image.