I don’t know exactly what subsets of stuff this is, as I know that wikipedia is about 1/2 petabyte total data all in. But this specific zim export is all English articles with some media. I believe that ALL the English articles is about 50GB and the other 55-ish GB is just media. It’s definitely cutdown, but not devoid.
It is, but the problem is less the foundation but more the leading people - as long as they reside in the US they can and will be put under legal (and other) pressure and will at some point comply. (Same issue Proton and to a lesser extend signal have,btw)
A regime that imprisons judges and imprisons people without due cause is totalitarian. Period.
I got grilled on any social media channel I use (including here) for having reservations about free speech oriented foundations being set up in the US. (And in Switzerland for that purpose, btw)
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on 28 Apr 13:35
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It can confiscate the domain name and with that, Wikipedia will be gone. People all over the world will have backups, and clones will spawn like there is no tomorrow but there is no federation, so each will do their own independent thing, fracturing mankinds knowledge even more
It depends where the domain is registered. The US can’t steal the domain from a German registrar.
And even if the domain name got stolen, they dont need to clone it. Just put it behind a new domain name. It would cause maybe 24 hours of downtime.
MediaWiki is already a global org. Even if all their US staff was arrested and the US servers seized, the rest of the team abroad would still be working.
The US still controls ICANN and with that they can pretty much do with DNS names whatever they want. Steal it from a German registrar? Well yeah, they actually can, what are you going to do to stop that? That is a known issue, actually.
I fully agree that they can switch domains but do not underestimate the importance.of domain names.
Also, they can force Google and Bing to censor Wikipedia completely, not having any links to it anywhere. With that, for most users it won’t exist anymore
There is a shit load of things that they can do to really make everyone miserable, this is what you get for giving the US damn near veto powers on Internet issues
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wokepedia lmao what’s wrong with the world
If I need to prove something stupid and immoral, and it relies on the assumption that 2+2=5, then 2+2=4 is woke propaganda. Simple as.
Is it realistic, or practical, for Wikipedia to register in a similar manner in another country?
Download your own copy of wikipedia.
library.kiwix.org/#lang=eng is one of many tools out there that can help you get a copy and even get it running in docker.
More copied of the data, less possible to take it all down.
Sure I got several hundred TB to spare at home.
Wikipedia is 109.89GB… You could have enough space on your phone that you’re reading this post on.
wuthout the images obviously
Uh… Well, no? I mean you can go see for yourself. Click an article. Media is there. library.kiwix.org/viewer#wikipedia_en_all_maxi_20…
I don’t know exactly what subsets of stuff this is, as I know that wikipedia is about 1/2 petabyte total data all in. But this specific zim export is all English articles with some media. I believe that ALL the English articles is about 50GB and the other 55-ish GB is just media. It’s definitely cutdown, but not devoid.
Huh, guess I was wrong. I was pretty sure the text part alone was that much
It is, but the problem is less the foundation but more the leading people - as long as they reside in the US they can and will be put under legal (and other) pressure and will at some point comply. (Same issue Proton and to a lesser extend signal have,btw) A regime that imprisons judges and imprisons people without due cause is totalitarian. Period.
I got grilled on any social media channel I use (including here) for having reservations about free speech oriented foundations being set up in the US. (And in Switzerland for that purpose, btw)
Say it with me “you have no power over me”
But it does
It can confiscate the domain name and with that, Wikipedia will be gone. People all over the world will have backups, and clones will spawn like there is no tomorrow but there is no federation, so each will do their own independent thing, fracturing mankinds knowledge even more
It depends where the domain is registered. The US can’t steal the domain from a German registrar.
And even if the domain name got stolen, they dont need to clone it. Just put it behind a new domain name. It would cause maybe 24 hours of downtime.
MediaWiki is already a global org. Even if all their US staff was arrested and the US servers seized, the rest of the team abroad would still be working.
The US still controls ICANN and with that they can pretty much do with DNS names whatever they want. Steal it from a German registrar? Well yeah, they actually can, what are you going to do to stop that? That is a known issue, actually.
I fully agree that they can switch domains but do not underestimate the importance.of domain names.
Also, they can force Google and Bing to censor Wikipedia completely, not having any links to it anywhere. With that, for most users it won’t exist anymore
There is a shit load of things that they can do to really make everyone miserable, this is what you get for giving the US damn near veto powers on Internet issues
None of that is practical
Well that is a shitty argument
Pointing to hypotheticals that have no record of history are shitty arguments
Please I hope Wikipedia can move away from the state to a more stable country in Europe…
And the Internet Archive too