Bluesky crosses the 15 million user mark (www.theverge.com)
from Fitik@fedia.io to technology@beehaw.org on 13 Nov 2024 18:56
https://fedia.io/m/technology@beehaw.org/t/1430848

Bluesky’s latest signup surge continues.

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thingsiplay@beehaw.org on 13 Nov 2024 19:17 next collapse

  • Bluesky: 15,128,928
  • Mastodon: 15,499,978

Source: bsky.jazco.dev/stats and mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount

These numbers are to taken with a grain of salt. Mastodon in example can’t count all instances, because not all are federated. Also on both instances we don’t have numbers of active users per day or logged in at the same time. However Bluesky provides statistics beyond just the number of accounts. I’m not saying one is better or has more active users than the other, only that the total number of accounts can be misleading as much as the Megapixels count of your camera.

Edit: I forgot there is another statistics displaying the number of active users for Mastodon: above 2.5 million users. Also it displays current Mastodon user count less than 10 million. Again either it counts it differently or it does not have access to the same instances as the other account has. Source: mastodon-analytics.com

furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Nov 2024 19:20 next collapse

i, for one. ain’t one of those 15 million users nor am i likely to ever be

Fitik@fedia.io on 13 Nov 2024 19:23 collapse

And that's why I like Bridgy Fed, I don't really like BlueSky neither (except nuclear block), but thanks to the bridge I can still interact with my friends from my Fediverse accounts, something that wouldn't be possible with Twitter for example

Computerchairgeneral@fedia.io on 13 Nov 2024 23:54 next collapse

Good. Still not completely sure about moving from one corporate site to another, but good to see more and more people are moving away from Twitter.

thingsiplay@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 06:49 next collapse

At least BlueSky is built on a technology based on open standard protocol and is decentralized. Kind of similar to the goals of Fediverse / Mastodon. So I assume someone else can just create a server and join the network of BlueSky? I don’t know if this is possible. But in reality at the moment its controlled by only one big company.

My hope is that they will one day cooperate with Fediverse, so it becomes read from and write to relationship.

[deleted] on 14 Nov 2024 09:37 next collapse

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Corgana@startrek.website on 14 Nov 2024 17:02 collapse

is decentralized

It’s not.

I assume someone else can just create a server and join the network of BlueSky?

They can’t.

in reality at the moment its controlled by only one big company.

…yep.

My hope is that they will one day cooperate with Fediverse.

ActivityPub existed before BlueSky did and they chose to make their own, incompatible thing. So I don’t have high hopes for this.

thingsiplay@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 17:07 collapse

Well its possible to have a bridge system, like its possible with Discord and Matrix. So from technical standpoint, I think it would be possible, unless they choose to not.

As for the centralized vs decentralized, BlueSky uses the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Protocol , which is decentralized. If you do not agree to this, then do you have an explanation to why?

Edit: Funny enough I read this AT_Protocl is Based on ActivityPub, according to the Wikipedia article.

watty@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 2024 17:27 collapse

My impression is that AT_Protocol lends itself to decentralized computing resources moreso than decentralized control or authority.

In the fediverse, instance owners have pretty strong control over their instance, the content it hosts, the people who can use it, etc. Bluesky takes advantage of self hosters for more distribution and reliability, but still maintains centralized control over content and user management.

The key difference, to me, is that if someone doesn’t like how the main Mastodon instances are running, they can make their own and have a completely separate network from those bad actors without rebuilding the world. With Bluesky, there’s not really any exit door like that.

Corgana@startrek.website on 14 Nov 2024 22:23 collapse

Bluesky takes advantage of self hosters for more distribution and reliability, but still maintains centralized control over content and user management.

This is what I don’t understand, why would anyone choose to host when there is zero advantage? I sort of feel is by design so they can claim “decentralized” while still having full control over the data.

Kissaki@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 09:38 next collapse

Bluesky Social is a public benefit corporation.

Corgana@startrek.website on 14 Nov 2024 17:00 next collapse

That doesn’t mean much unfortunately.

jherazob@beehaw.org on 15 Nov 2024 15:01 collapse

Like OpenAI?

jherazob@beehaw.org on 15 Nov 2024 15:05 collapse

On one hand i love to see people fleeing Twitter, on another i think it foolish to move to another corporate site that eventually WILL enshittify. Here’s Cory Doctorow on why he won’t join Bsky or Threads

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 2024 01:10 next collapse

I’ve never used Twitter and have no interest in social media but I signed up for Bluesky because I have hated Twitter for 15 years. Also I appreciate that Bluesky has almost no data collection and no tracking. That’s cool.

Fitik@fedia.io on 14 Nov 2024 01:25 next collapse

Yea, it's also open source, so that's cool

kahnclusions@programming.dev on 17 Nov 2024 03:20 collapse

Mostly, yes. The decentralized identity system is not.

My fear with Bsky is even though it’s open source we’ll still just end up with one large VC funded company controlling the one big instance everyone uses and then enshittification begins.

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 14 Nov 2024 14:18 next collapse

For now

jherazob@beehaw.org on 15 Nov 2024 15:03 collapse

Enshittification Stage 1 is ALWAYS sweet, but eventually ends

along_the_road@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 03:47 next collapse

You can also now browse without an account on bluesky which is neat

RiQuY@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 2024 04:03 collapse

Not NSFW content.

drbluefall@toast.ooo on 14 Nov 2024 15:25 collapse

I’m wondering if that’s more for legal reasons than for technical ones. Then again, I’m not a lawyer, and you could probably get around it by directly using the AT Protocol.

shrugs

Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 06:00 next collapse

I signed up and made a post. I was shocked and then amused when somebody actually saw my post?! It made me realize I don’t understand how to even use a Twitter type of social media. Do I just post my thoughts? What’s up with that lol

I always just used Twitter as a way to see youtubers/streamers updates

zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev on 14 Nov 2024 11:19 collapse

It can be hard to bootstrap yourself up from zero followers. I’d recommend posting something just so that people have an idea of the kind of thing they can expect if they follow you from checking out your profile. But you probably won’t get much engagement from your own posts at first, so it will probably be more fun to just reply to other accounts.

Bluesky has a feature where you can set up customized feeds to filter for any kind of content you want. The person who saw your post might have seen it in the “newskies” feed which just contains every first post that any account makes for example. So one way to get engagement can be to write posts that show up in a certain feed that people follow, like there exist some feeds that are based around certain topics that usually trigger based on your post containing certain keywords. Most people just use the following feed though, I think.

Kissaki@beehaw.org on 14 Nov 2024 09:40 collapse

Does it still require SMS verification? Or was that lifted? That’s where I stopped my out-of-interest signup last time.

/edit: It does not anymore. But my handle is taken now. :(