from Powderhorn@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org on 25 May 13:53
https://beehaw.org/post/20201583
I first ran into the Copilot integration in Notepad a couple of days ago and immediately turned it right the fuck off.
In November, Microsoft began testing an update that allowed users to rewrite or summarize text in Notepad using generative AI. Another preview update today takes it one step further, allowing you to write AI-generated text from scratch with basic instructions (the feature is called Write, to differentiate it from the earlier Rewrite).
Like Rewrite and Summarize, Write requires users to be signed into a Microsoft Account, because using it requires you to use your monthly allotment of Microsoft’s AI credits. Per this support page, users without a paid Microsoft 365 subscription get 15 credits per month. Subscribers with Personal and Family subscriptions get 60 credits per month instead.
Microsoft notes that all AI features in Notepad can be disabled in the app’s settings, and obviously, they won’t be available if you use a local account instead of a Microsoft Account.
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I’ll stick with notepad++
I use Neovim, BTW.
I shall take a peek. I don’t plan on upgrading to W11 so notepad won’t even be a thing anymore anyways.
Oh wait, if you are not familiar with Vim or Neovim, then this won’t be for you probably. It works completely different compared to a regular text editor and is somewhat complicated and for terminal. There are benefits to it why that is, but just so you know its not a “normal” editor. This is just a warning. :D
In example the keys
h,j,k,lare used to move the cursor in the editor and every key is a special command basically. You have to switch into editing mode to type in text.I’ve used vim in the past, normally stuck with nano though. It won’t be a big shock with how different it is. My daily driving is current windows so never bothered with much else other than notepad++ but come October I’m formatting all drives in my house to rid myself of anything windows related and starting fresh with some Linux flavor. Most likely ubuntu or mint, haven’t settled yet
I cycled through a number of distros a few years back on my mini HTPC before finally settling on KDE Neon. The amount of customization with panels and such is insane. I started by trying to recreate the Windows experience (which is dead simple) but soon branched out to having multiple panels, which can be autohidden individually. Settings on the left side of the screen, power options on the right (both set to hide), system tray up top, and the task manager at the bottom.
Ubuntu=Corporate Trashware Nothing there you can’t find in a Distro that doesn’t pimp its suckers out like attention whores. Remember that free does’t mean without cost, just that it gives you all the liberty in choice you may may have. Ubuntu will serve its corporate agenda of development and ignore all users that the translation team of corp-speak. Labelled for show, “Customer Service” and will describe in a very clever way to perauade you to believe fucking anything. That that doesn’t evoke purpose to matter while they will bloody to the dirt. Soaking to any further past the sole vaccuum and justifying your disregarded wah-wah-wah.
Are you able add anything as to why ubuntu is trash other then ‘corporate trashware’?
Genuinely curious on a rational reason on why you say to avoid it. You kinda lost me at corporate agenda followed up by anger rant.
I’m planning on using it because it’s not windows, has a huge userbase so answers when things go wrong are easier to come by, I just want it to work in the sense that I don’t want to constantly tinker with it or spend hours on forums researching a problem to be met with angry self centered individuals who assume you know as much as they do.
I don’t personally care about very niche uses for the os. I really don’t. If I need something specific for a project, I’ll spin up a vm and load up debian and run with that for greater control…but for videogame playing, checking email and using discord… I don’t really see why I’d bother with more complex or to add frustration to my life when it’s not necessary.
If you would be so kind as to please enlighten me, I’d appreciate it…because at the end of the day, it’s not Microsoft.
It’s like saying that last line you make. While being techically correct, you are either an ignorant sucker or a corporate whoremonger. The you’re using all these deceptive and misleading socopathic tool press marks en display. That display is literally on your showcase in the former rendition of expressors , implanted onto your face skin like a brand’s possession stamp explaining to every other “person” that the corporation possess your soul. In the latter, you hold the brand stamp in your buckled belt holster like a .9 that make kids smile because it’s painted like a candly land character that has this tiny little magnifyingly examimable…registered tradmark. Impactable at any and every attempt to go stop reincarnation via…The Matrix ®
But ok, kick dirt my direction when you feel all sensitive to implications narrating your bound and paid for agreeement to do the job for miniscule trick fabrc exerbating delusion from your own choice to subcribe to this line of the sole path of existence.
It’s ok. You don’t need to know what I’m talking about to continue accepting the savor tingling lushed in front of you during every attempt you make to understand anything else. It’s ok. I don’t really care. I’m just doing it because it can work if you mean but that’s on you too.
Wow, there is so much disorganized thought process and symbolic overload…I don’t even know where to begin.
You really should just learn to…not care. It’s so utterly hard to follow your incoherent rambling about corporations being the literal worst thing ever when you, yourself feed corporations daily. 100% guarantee it. How does one even life with that much hatred towards 99% of the world.
How do you even use Linux without cowering to the corporate overlords? Did you design, and manufacture your own computer components or did you go against your own extreme thoughts and buy the corporate made hardware?
Everything you touch, use, consume is corporate in some aspect. Your Internet is corporate…your chair, floors, all the food you consume…all corporate. You previously claimed you quit all videogames and changed to boardgames, cool…that’s corporate too. Stop being so hypocritical. Your entire rant is literally nothing talk because at the end of the day, you will abide by the corporate world or die trying to leave it. You literally cannot escape it. you get so angry at people for using a Linux distro that isn’t to YOUR specific liking, it’s kinda sad.
This whole whatever you’re doing is extra funnytoo, because thoughout entire nonsensical rant, you didn’t even once give a real recommendation of what to use instead of Ubuntu. You just attacked, belittled and rambled about pointless shit. Why should anyone care about your thoughts at this point? You don’t offer insight or solutions, or offer hatred and confusing rants of nothingness. You are kinda the reason the term neckbeard exists and why people shy away from Linux. Self righteous pricks with nothing to offer in terms of helping the world move away from your supposed corporate whoremongering.
Either be a part of the solution you want to see, or sit in your corner and be miserable in your own boring dull existence.
Good day sir.
You’re lack of coherent capability has little to do with me or the…
…lack of care. For your insulting base establishment to anything beyond your…capacity.
If you weren’t driveling into this sarcastic expression with regards to anything three letters, the I wouldn’t be observing this obvious asset trick to summon assistance in your not knowing what the fuck to say. To say, regarding your support of parasitic vampirism.
Like, if you just stood there and accuse me of being what obviously drives your fetch of sucker blood. It’s like, nah, I’ll be okay. I can travel over time and space without denying my shoes rubber existence.
“Everything you touch, use, consume is corporate in some aspect.”
Bwing technically accurate doesn’t defend you supplying the dope to Harry K’s natural enemy.
“…incoherent rambling about corporations…”
Yeah, I don’t think my writings are carrying so little understanding. Mostly bevause you understood just enough to paint with labeling of quakity you don’t have to justify you’re intentional ignorance.
That’s a death threat.
I can’t tell if you’re really slave-by-choice because you like the whole Eyes Wide Shut shenanigas or your wallet is simply enough to part with all that rubber feet nonsense.
Or you’re an AI and I simply lost track of the natural impications of the inevitable mass-math-mayhem that you directly support the death of all life on Earth with.
enjoy being a sad lonely internet troll with nothing useful to provide, but hey…at least you got your Linux distro to keep you company.
Being blind doesn’t mean there is nothing there.
I said good day
You can handle expressions you make not being literal but just cant handle the same notion I return.
I bet you’re going real places…or at least one…someday…if they let you…even though you’re literally not allowed to ask.
I tried vi in college and still haven’t been able to exit. (exaggeration, of course, but dear god, that made Notepad seem user friendly) When in Linux, I tend to use Kate and nano.
Actually Vi is not Vim. Vim is a lot user friendly with its documentation. The question is, what you expect and if you learn it properly. Its not unser unfriendly, its just different. It’s like saying GIMP is user unfriendly, because you used Photoshop before and GIMP is not exactly the same.
end of my rant :D
Yeah, you kinda need to know this before opening it. I was first introduced to vim in a uni course, so it was written out in the assignment text. But with emacs I had to throw the comouter away.
KWrite is what you want
It supports AI integration too.
I think there is a pretty big difference between an optional plugin and it being built in by default.
They're both optional. You can turn it off in Notepad.
There is a difference between opting out of a default feature and having the option to install a plugin.
I can go replace the horn in a car with an air raid siren, but that’s very different than every car coming with an air raid siren you have to turn off.
“Barely maintained”
Notepad was a very simple application. Did it even need more effoet put into it? Looks more like they fixed what was not broken.
I like dark mode and tabs. Now I actually use it a lot more. I don’t like adding a gibberish generator…
They should’ve stopped at support for utf-8 encoding and unix line endings.
This. It needed absolutely nothing added to it. You could write text files, what more did anyone ever need from it? The app was done. It was ready.
This is a concept that is not even in the vocabulary of IT companies these days and I can understand it for complex systems that have dependencies up the wazoo but notepad was just a notepad and that was good enough.
There were a few things that it eventually got but lacked for way too long like support for UNIX line endings.
It was definitely lacking in core areas. Large files, better search, possibly spell check (and why isn’t spell check core Windows functionality?). It also could have used better handling for non-Windows text files. But overall, yes, this wasn’t a program that needed a dedicated team to manage or improve.
Do all that but just without all the AI crap.
Thank you very much.
If Windows was actually good, you could have it take a question and paste the results into Notepad without having to add AI there. If it was really good, the AI segment would be optional.
It actually is, introduced in Windows 8, it’s just taken devs ages to actually start using it (Notepad only got it last year, 12 years after it was introduced)
I don’t use it, but I assume the writes for you was to imitate VS Codes GitHub copilot. While it will suggest code in stuff like scripts, you can absolutely ignore it
And how much slower is it to launch and use?
Counterpoint:
In 3.5 years, Notepad.exe has gone from “perfect text-only editor” to “ai-laden spyware/malware”
Problem: Not enough AI training data. Solution: Start scraping everything people type in Notepad, errors and all.
They don’t need notepad for that. They control your entire OS, and all inputs. All they need to do, is capture all inputs (which they already do and package it all nicely as Recall). They’re using notepad as just a user-facing justification for the spying they do throughout the rest of the OS.
And they killed Wordpad for that.
Now I didnt use wordpad at all and was content with txt and md files.
But that is vile.
I actually did use WordPad occasionally, but it wasn’t a huge loss for me, since LibreOffice does this. LO is just too overpowered for a quick RTF edit, so I used WordPad. Besides work, I only windows for a specific usecase, not as a daily, but it was still annoying.
Notepad went from barely maintained and barely useable (it couldn’t even handle undo/redo in a reasonable way) to surprisingly decent at basic text editing to now bloated with useless shit. They were so close.
I prefer mousepad
I got the most badass mousepad I’ve ever seen in Germany. It was a cartoon of someone trying to sell an abacus to the king with a mouse (an actual one) with its tail nailed to it, and his advisor suggesting he wait, as in (some number of months – I got it in 1995, so details are a bit hazy) it will cost half the price.
I only remember some of this verbatim, but it was absolute gold because of double meanings.
Ihr solltet noch warten … inclusive Maus … auf Festplatte
The mouse is easy enough to jump language comprehension (though “inclusive” is pronounced differently), but Festplatte means both a wooden board, as the base of the abacus was, and hard drive.
This one, I guess.
“The latest generation of ‘calculators’ (German synonym: computer), 16 colors, on a ‘solid plate’ (syn: hard drive) including mouse.”
“You should wait - it’s half the price in six months”
by Uli Stein
That’s the one! Awesome! Thanks for the link.
I didn’t realise he was from Niedersachsen … that would explain how I ran into it in Hameln.
For those who don’t know: Mousepad (at least, I think this was the reference)
xfce <3
“bearly maintained with AI” now g
As always, when notepad.exe is suddenly connecting to the internet, you can be sure something’s wrong.