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from sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to technology@beehaw.org on 24 Jul 2024 12:55
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from sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to technology@beehaw.org on 24 Jul 2024 12:55
https://lazysoci.al/post/15908454
cross-posted from: lazysoci.al/post/15908451
I’ve been saying this and people keep arguing.
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This seems like the critical part to me:
So it isn’t even effective at deterring bots? Then what the hell was all this for?
For getting free labor, of course.
We are basically training their models/bots for them.
It’s great for gaslighting people into thinking they don’t know what a bicycle looks like!
I spent a huge amount of time last night clicking on motorcycles because I absolutely could not convince PayPal or Google I was a legitimate human who wanted to exchange currency for goods and services
I find if I trace a figure 8 in the screen with my mouse the captcha passes much more often. I think it probably reads the small variations in your mouse movement to sus out bots, so the figure 8 gives it more data to work with.
I eventually gave up and decided to see if they were being hostile to my network and privacy settings. Lo and behold, I was able to log in when I adjusted the strictness of my VPN. Fortunately the service I was trying to exchange currency for was a better VPN with more security and privacy, so I was willing to take the L on that one interactions
Introducing a Captcha on a form on my website basically blocked bots 100% of the time. It’s arguably good enough from a practical standpoint.
If someone really wants to exploit my site, then they will find a way. You can only make it harder but never truly impossible if you don’t want to dispose of all convenience.
thank you for sharing your experience! Good to hear an anecdote to the contrary.
Always has been
I mean that is true but there is some nuance.
At one time it was a cheap way to protect your site from drive by scripts and make your users help pay for that protection.
They still work in that way on say the comment section of a tiny WordPress blog because the cost to solve them isn’t worth what a random boner pill ad is worth.
The issue now (made worse recently by LLMs) is that more bots then ever are scraping any and every thing so people are putting captchas on every bit of every web app content they have. This increases the work of your users while it only slows down the bots. The hope is that the cost to solve is slightly higher than the value of the data.
that is 100% true👍
I just saw a good opportunity to use the meme here so I took it😆
there should be a plugin that autosolves these
github.com/dessant/buster
Side note: it’s become 100% reliable that if “boffins” appears in the title, it’s The Register. Damn, they love that word.
Yeah it’s pretty clearly just getting people to manually train self-driving cars for a while now.
Jokes on them. I randomly select extra or less boxes than are correct. Yes, it takes me more time but I’m doing my little part to stymy Skynet.
I did try to get literal with reCAPTCHA a while back, and it just never finished. “Select every image with a bicycle in it” or motorcycle or stop light. I would select the images that only had a WHOLE in it, not the broken up ones into several images. It doesn’t like it when you try to answer it’s question properly.
Anyways, there’s several other captcha and anti-bot services now days, really would recommend people use a different provider, I hate reCaptcha so much.