Bruce Schneier: China Possibly Hacking US “Lawful Access” Backdoor (www.schneier.com)
from tardigrada@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org on 08 Oct 2024 12:41
https://beehaw.org/post/16449676

Chinese hackers (Salt Typhoon) penetrated the networks of US broadband providers, and might have accessed the backdoors that the federal government uses to execute court-authorized wiretap requests. Those backdoors have been mandated by law—CALEA—since 1994.

Refering to a story published by the Wall Street Journal, security expert Bruce Schneier writes “that the attack wasn’t against the broadband providers directly, but against one of the intermediary companies that sit between the government CALEA requests and the broadband providers”.

"For years, the security community has pushed back against these backdoors, pointing out that the technical capability cannot differentiate between good guys and bad guys. And here is one more example of a backdoor access mechanism being targeted by the “wrong” eavesdroppers."

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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Oct 2024 12:55 next collapse

Schneier is one of the two security experts I have in my RSS feeds, the other being Brian Krebs. Bruce Schneier is a smart guy.

tardigrada@beehaw.org on 08 Oct 2024 12:57 next collapse

Me too :-)

BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org on 08 Oct 2024 15:51 next collapse

Though a superhero, Bruce Schneier disdains the use of a mask or secret identity as ‘security through obscurity’.

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borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 2024 15:51 collapse

I have one degree of personal separation from Brian Krebs, it makes me feel way cooler than it probably should lol.

JaymesRS@literature.cafe on 08 Oct 2024 14:23 next collapse

Wait, you mean doors work for other people too?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 08 Oct 2024 15:44 collapse

Got down voted for this on another thread...

Better question... Who gave chinaman the keys that only should belong to our dearest spooks

JaymesRS@literature.cafe on 09 Oct 2024 14:21 collapse

That was probably for the extremely outdated and racist use of “chinaman”. Even if you were using like Florida Man, it’s still a good word to avoid.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 09 Oct 2024 14:26 collapse

Didn't use the term there but on the side note lol

Next you gonna tell me I should not hurt the federal agents feels too

Glowies got feelings, mate 🤡

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Oct 2024 14:39 collapse

Shocking. /s

No current technology can distinguish between good guys and bad guys. There’s like a pervasive ideological discomfort with that basic fact. You see it again and again on every regulation debate.

tardigrada@beehaw.org on 08 Oct 2024 15:11 collapse

@CanadaPlus

I get what you mean by highlighting that no current technology can distinguish between good and bad guys, but I feel there will never be a technology that can do that. A backdoor can easily be used by your government/law enforcement to suppress people and eliminate freedoms, even if there may have been best initial intentions for such a backdoor. This is a fundamentally human -rather than a technological- issue.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Oct 2024 15:17 collapse

but I feel there will never be a technology that can do that.

That’s my best guess too, but someone could plausibly argue otherwise. I just went with something undisputable that still illustrates the main point.

borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 2024 15:48 collapse

Here I’ve built software that can detect the difference between good guys and bad guys, it uses Artificial Intelligence.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Oct 2024 16:03 next collapse

I mean, that’s what it would have to be, right? OP probably thinks it’s impossible because GAI is impossible. I think it’s likely impossible because there’s no moral system that’s both totally specific and which we could all agree on, even roughly.

Either way, a good guy detector is far off at the very least, and we’re going to have to struggle for the cause of good, whatever that may be, the old fashioned political way.

PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee on 09 Oct 2024 04:26 collapse

Mother of god if someone actually tried to push that I would run for office for the explicit purpose of killing it dead and loudly vilifying the dumbfuck who thought of it into never making anything again.