Doesn’t really apply here - Microsoft is just using its clout to make things work more like they’re expected to:
But some of that confusion persists. A weakness built into the USB-C from the very beginning was that the specification for the physical connector was always separate from the specifications for the USB protocol itself…
Microsoft is using its Windows Hardware Compatibility Program (WHCP) for PC companies to mandate support for charging, display output, and at least 5Gbps USB speeds on all USB-C ports built into all PCs…
Powderhorn@beehaw.org
on 03 Jun 2025 12:14
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Somewhat pointless without all cables supporting those features, though.
jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
on 03 Jun 2025 12:44
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It still solves one end of the problem.
The cable problem probably needs enforcement from law side.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
on 03 Jun 2025 21:01
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If you buy thunderbolt cables, they support everything. If you look at the cost of those cables, you will see why not all USB cables support every feature. They are also limited to 1 meter without active circuitry, which will make them even more expensive.
So I thought it couldn’t possibly be that bad! So I looked it up on Amazon. Guys, it’s way worse than that bad. $60 for a goddamn cable! It supports everything though…
www.amazon.com/…/B084Z65YJQ
ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org
on 03 Jun 2025 19:48
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It applies. The Microsoft requirements are different than the standard requirements. Stricter in some ways, but more lenient in others.
Microsoft has never shown any respect for the standards. All they want is vendor lock. Fuck Microsoft.
P.S. And I’m not even talking about the obvious inability for Microsoft to make things that “just work”. Like at all. All their soft is a huge pile of unmaintainable clutches.
I remember not being able to play some games due to having a powerful enough graphic card but the wrong “kind” so neither option was good. At least I can use any card with any standard program now
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Doesn’t really apply here - Microsoft is just using its clout to make things work more like they’re expected to:
Somewhat pointless without all cables supporting those features, though.
It still solves one end of the problem. The cable problem probably needs enforcement from law side.
If you buy thunderbolt cables, they support everything. If you look at the cost of those cables, you will see why not all USB cables support every feature. They are also limited to 1 meter without active circuitry, which will make them even more expensive.
So I thought it couldn’t possibly be that bad! So I looked it up on Amazon. Guys, it’s way worse than that bad. $60 for a goddamn cable! It supports everything though… www.amazon.com/…/B084Z65YJQ
It applies. The Microsoft requirements are different than the standard requirements. Stricter in some ways, but more lenient in others.
Microsoft has never shown any respect for the standards. All they want is vendor lock. Fuck Microsoft.
P.S. And I’m not even talking about the obvious inability for Microsoft to make things that “just work”. Like at all. All their soft is a huge pile of unmaintainable clutches.
I do enjoy DirectX and the Plug and Play standards though
A classical example of Microsoft’s vendor lock.
I remember not being able to play some games due to having a powerful enough graphic card but the wrong “kind” so neither option was good. At least I can use any card with any standard program now
Yes, as long as you’re vendorlocked in the Microsoft’s environment.
OpenGl is a standard.
Vulkan is a standard.
VESA is a standard.
Direct3d is a Microsoft’s vendorlocked bullshit.