The peasants shared a common version of reality and had a king living within a distance they could reach with a guillotine. We do not live in a comparable world unfortunately. We have decentralized kings, a system that encourages their replication, and propaganda networks that create “reality” to keep us separated :(
SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de
on 03 Jan 16:44
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You honestly think peasants could reach the king without getting gutted by their guards within seconds?
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
on 03 Jan 16:56
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Actually no. Did any of the six people upvoting you actually read the article and linked articles? None of them ever ended with the death of a king (if I’m not mistaken) and out of the around two dozen revolts listed, only two were victories that one might call permanent. The moment things escalated into actual battles, almost all revolts failed. I didn’t double check my numbers, but even if it’s one more or less, this doesn’t change anything.
Sure, but this was much later, fueled by the enlightenment and even then very much the exception to the rule. Not to mention, it didn’t exactly look like a success for decades afterwards, with ordinary people getting the short end of the stick even more so than before. Imagine telling someone suffering under or because of the brutal warmonger and arguably first modern dictator Napoleon that the French revolution that allowed him to him ascend the throne was a blessing for humanity or even just the French.
Yeah I wouldn’t be happy to live in the time period afterwards. Still they got to and executed the rulers, but you are right that it is rare that the revolts succeed to that point historically.
pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
on 03 Jan 17:49
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Someday we’ll escape this corporate capture hellhole
“We live in capitalism, its power seems inescapable – but then, so did the divine right of kings.”
The peasants shared a common version of reality and had a king living within a distance they could reach with a guillotine. We do not live in a comparable world unfortunately. We have decentralized kings, a system that encourages their replication, and propaganda networks that create “reality” to keep us separated :(
You honestly think peasants could reach the king without getting gutted by their guards within seconds?
Yes.
Actually no. Did any of the six people upvoting you actually read the article and linked articles? None of them ever ended with the death of a king (if I’m not mistaken) and out of the around two dozen revolts listed, only two were victories that one might call permanent. The moment things escalated into actual battles, almost all revolts failed. I didn’t double check my numbers, but even if it’s one more or less, this doesn’t change anything.
The French historically got a lot done with revolts and the people in power have been killed / imprisoned. Place de la Concorde comes to mind.
Sure, but this was much later, fueled by the enlightenment and even then very much the exception to the rule. Not to mention, it didn’t exactly look like a success for decades afterwards, with ordinary people getting the short end of the stick even more so than before. Imagine telling someone suffering under or because of the brutal warmonger and arguably first modern dictator Napoleon that the French revolution that allowed him to him ascend the throne was a blessing for humanity or even just the French.
Yeah I wouldn’t be happy to live in the time period afterwards. Still they got to and executed the rulers, but you are right that it is rare that the revolts succeed to that point historically.
There’s usually more peasants than guards.
We just can’t have anything nice, can we?
The courts will save us from the technocracy!
-Democratic leaders last week