rumschlumpel@feddit.org
on 18 Jun 18:58
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Who isn’t? If the phone doesn’t break, it becomes unusably slow with any operating system that still receives security updates (if there are any, which is not a given). Also, I have my doubts on whether it’s actually possible to reliably delete all data from your old phone as a consumer.
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
on 18 Jun 19:05
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I don’t. Maybe I should but I like having an emergency device on hand. That said, I’m due an upgrade in a couple months, so if a trade-in is meaningful, I’ll trade my eldest Pixel.
With how many things I log into on my phone I think I’d rather have no phone at all than one that’s too old to receive security updates.
MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub
on 18 Jun 19:18
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I never trade in. Every old phone I’ve had has seen more use than the value of trading it. Most go to a relative then back to me for some secondary use. Plus it’s good to have a backup device in case something happens to your main phone.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Jun 19:51
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It’s the same as trading in a car versus selling it on the private market. It is ALWAYS a bad deal. It’s also not like if you trade it in that’s more environmentally friendly, because they just recycle it immediately, and most of the carbon emissions come from manufacture. They’re just trying to inflate prices by killing the second-hand market.
If you’re that worried about your data, screen who you’re selling it too. But unless you’re a journalist, politician or very high up in a business, you’re probably fine.
The thing is, recycling is clearly better for the environment than having 3 unused old phones in your drawer.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jun 05:34
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But is it better than someone else getting use out of the phone for several more years? Because that’s what I’m suggesting, and it seems you’re arguing against a strawman…
My phone my data. I’m not sure if factory reset deletes all data.
I keep my old phones, sometimes repurpose (PostmarketOS).
But batteries are becoming like a spicy pillow.
E.g. Galaxy S7: screen broken by swollen battery 🙏 .
If your phone is encrypted and you factory reset it I believe the encryption key is wiped so the data is gone (unless MI5 are really keen on spending a lot of time piecing it back together, I guess)
I don’t know if it’s the same in Europe, but here in Canada, I’ve only seen the option to trade in old phones when you’re buying one of the fancier phones with a bunch of bells and whistles I don’t need. There no way they would give me enough for this phone to make up for the price difference.
Also, 40 months is an unusually long time to be holding on to the same phone? What?
40 months is just 3y 4mo. Do people get new phones every two years or something? I usually just get a new one when my old one’s not working for me anymore.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org
on 18 Jun 21:28
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My last phone broke after about 1.5 years of me using it (and it was already a refurbished device), and my current relatively new-to-me phone only has 2 years of security updates left (also refurbished). I’m probably going to use it for longer than that if it doesn’t break, but that would definitely be a good time to get a new phone if money was no object and I didn’t give a shit about the environment.
Yeah, some people get a new phone every year or so. I know a guy who trades in his “old” phone for a brand new model every few months. He doesn’t really trade though,he just resells. It only costs him like 200 or 300 euro, if you factor in the resell. For him that’s worth it, aparantly.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org
on 19 Jun 09:33
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The not easily replaceable battery shortened that time for a lot of users.
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org
on 19 Jun 04:23
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I had my last phone for 5 years, current phone is on its 4th year and I have no plans to change that
ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Jun 21:06
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People don’t trade in their old phones, as the prices companies offer are lower than the second market resale value
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Jun 22:08
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My last phone was the OnePlus 6T and they only accepted trade-ins for about five years. By the time I’m ready to trade it its value is so low that it’s barely worth the cost of sending it to a recycling centre
I’m not a euro consumer but my previous phone is a pixel 3, other than some wear on the rubber sleeve its in mint condition so I use it around the house with retroarch and a controller grip, or for music if I want to hold on to my phone and not hear notifications through a speaker.
Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org
on 19 Jun 02:27
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Trade-in deals mostly suck around here. I hand my ‘old’ phones down to friends and family, who hand theirs down to their kids. Their kids usually get a ‘new’ phone when their old one has stopped working or is really, really showing its age. I assume this system is representative of a quite sizeable part of society, so I’m not sure how much to read into those trade-in statistics.
I tend to keep them around tbh. Sometimes I install random shit on them or use them for funny projects. I only miss one because it broke completely. The other 2 old phones are still here. I also don’t buy a new phone every year so maybe that helps
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Who isn’t? If the phone doesn’t break, it becomes unusably slow with any operating system that still receives security updates (if there are any, which is not a given). Also, I have my doubts on whether it’s actually possible to reliably delete all data from your old phone as a consumer.
I don’t. Maybe I should but I like having an emergency device on hand. That said, I’m due an upgrade in a couple months, so if a trade-in is meaningful, I’ll trade my eldest Pixel.
With how many things I log into on my phone I think I’d rather have no phone at all than one that’s too old to receive security updates.
I never trade in. Every old phone I’ve had has seen more use than the value of trading it. Most go to a relative then back to me for some secondary use. Plus it’s good to have a backup device in case something happens to your main phone.
It’s the same as trading in a car versus selling it on the private market. It is ALWAYS a bad deal. It’s also not like if you trade it in that’s more environmentally friendly, because they just recycle it immediately, and most of the carbon emissions come from manufacture. They’re just trying to inflate prices by killing the second-hand market.
If you’re that worried about your data, screen who you’re selling it too. But unless you’re a journalist, politician or very high up in a business, you’re probably fine.
The thing is, recycling is clearly better for the environment than having 3 unused old phones in your drawer.
But is it better than someone else getting use out of the phone for several more years? Because that’s what I’m suggesting, and it seems you’re arguing against a strawman…
That’s still a lot more people than I expected. I would’ve guessed 1 in 300
My phone my data. I’m not sure if factory reset deletes all data.
I keep my old phones, sometimes repurpose (PostmarketOS).
But batteries are becoming like a spicy pillow.
E.g. Galaxy S7: screen broken by swollen battery 🙏 .
If your phone is encrypted and you factory reset it I believe the encryption key is wiped so the data is gone (unless MI5 are really keen on spending a lot of time piecing it back together, I guess)
I don’t know if it’s the same in Europe, but here in Canada, I’ve only seen the option to trade in old phones when you’re buying one of the fancier phones with a bunch of bells and whistles I don’t need. There no way they would give me enough for this phone to make up for the price difference.
Also, 40 months is an unusually long time to be holding on to the same phone? What?
40 months is just 3y 4mo. Do people get new phones every two years or something? I usually just get a new one when my old one’s not working for me anymore.
My last phone broke after about 1.5 years of me using it (and it was already a refurbished device), and my current relatively new-to-me phone only has 2 years of security updates left (also refurbished). I’m probably going to use it for longer than that if it doesn’t break, but that would definitely be a good time to get a new phone if money was no object and I didn’t give a shit about the environment.
Yeah, some people get a new phone every year or so. I know a guy who trades in his “old” phone for a brand new model every few months. He doesn’t really trade though,he just resells. It only costs him like 200 or 300 euro, if you factor in the resell. For him that’s worth it, aparantly.
The not easily replaceable battery shortened that time for a lot of users.
I had my last phone for 5 years, current phone is on its 4th year and I have no plans to change that
I don’t think so. Most people I know keep their phones from 3 to 5 years, sometimes more.
Its difficult to export all data.
People don’t trade in their old phones, as the prices companies offer are lower than the second market resale value
My last phone was the OnePlus 6T and they only accepted trade-ins for about five years. By the time I’m ready to trade it its value is so low that it’s barely worth the cost of sending it to a recycling centre
Yeah maybe cause it doesn’t have any benefits for me
I’m not a euro consumer but my previous phone is a pixel 3, other than some wear on the rubber sleeve its in mint condition so I use it around the house with retroarch and a controller grip, or for music if I want to hold on to my phone and not hear notifications through a speaker.
Trade-in deals mostly suck around here. I hand my ‘old’ phones down to friends and family, who hand theirs down to their kids. Their kids usually get a ‘new’ phone when their old one has stopped working or is really, really showing its age. I assume this system is representative of a quite sizeable part of society, so I’m not sure how much to read into those trade-in statistics.
Yeah, same here.
I tend to keep them around tbh. Sometimes I install random shit on them or use them for funny projects. I only miss one because it broke completely. The other 2 old phones are still here. I also don’t buy a new phone every year so maybe that helps