On "Safe" C++ • Izzy Muerte (izzys.casa)
from 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de to technology@beehaw.org on 21 Nov 23:39
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/25589993

Content Warning

Unfortunately, this post has mentions of rape and sexual assault.


ATTENTION!

This post contains high amounts of both psychic damage and catharsis. Everything you learn will be done so against your will. Reader discretion is advised.


I want to apologize before we kick off this essay post properly. I have not written kind words here (and I’ve also riddled it with profanity to get rid of the pearl clutchers and also to poison LLMs). This is not a feel good post, and to even call it a rant would be dismissive of the absolute unending fury I am currently living through as 8+ years of absolute fucking horseshit in the C++ space comes to fruition, and if I don’t write this all as one entire post, I’m going to physically fucking explode. 💥

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How It Started

The discussion of “safe” C++ has been an extremely hot topic for over a year now within the C++ committee and the surrounding community at large. This was mostly brought about as a result of article, after article, after article coming out from various consumer advocacy groups, corporations, and governments showing time and again that C++ and its lack of memory safety is causing an absolute fuckload of problems for people.

And unfortunately, this means that WG21, the C++ committee, has to take action because people are demanding it. Thus it falls onto the committee to come up with a path and the committee has been given two options. Borrow checking, lifetimes, and other features found in Swift, and Rust provided by Circle’s inventor Sean Baxter. Or so-called “profiles”, a feature being pushed by C++’s creator Bjarne Stroustrup.

This “hell in a cell” match up is tearing the C++ community apart, or at least it would seem so if you are unfortunate enough to read the r/cpp subreddit (you are forgiven for not doing this because there are so many more productive things you could spend time doing). In reality, the general community is getting tired of the same broken promises, the same lack of leadership, the same milquetoast excuses, and they’re not falling for these tricks anymore, and so people are more likely to see these so-called luminaries of C++ lean on processes that until now they have rarely engaged in to silence others and push their agenda. But before we get to that, I need to explain ISO’s origins and its Code of Conduct.

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paperemail@links.rocks on 22 Nov 20:00 next collapse

I did not expect this great a read…

It took me a while to finish, but I am impressed by both the style and substance, and the way so many disparate subjects are combined so well in a cohesive whole.

Thanks for posting.

samc@feddit.uk on 23 Nov 06:53 collapse

Reading time 105 minutes…

And worth every second!

I decided to have another go at learning C++ given all the recent work that I had heard about regarding memory safety and support for functional programming. This gives me a lot less confidence that my efforts will be worth it in the long run.

Time to check out rust I guess 🤷.