RobotZap10000@feddit.nl
on 26 May 10:07
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But how does this compete against the Verification Can™?
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 26 May 10:56
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I remember hearing about palm veins a decade ago, what makes this boom different?
madame_gaymes@programming.dev
on 26 May 23:44
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I was curious, so I had to look it up. Turns out, Aristotle found and already written treatise on the idea of palm reading… I know it’s not exactly palm “finger” printing, but even our ancestors knew palms were unique.
instead of scanning your face (which can be spoofed) or fingerprints (which can be copied), these systems scan the ‘pattern’ of the veins running inside your palm – something that’s unique to you, and absolutely can’t be faked.
Was it done in such way it could just as easy to fool multiple scanners at the same time? As in scanning eye, finger and palm at the same time. Though I wonder how expensive/difficult/error prone it would be to implement something like that.
lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de
on 26 May 15:53
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No, it was only focused on that one biometric. You can always just add another for security, though it is good to keep in mind, that bionetrics aren’t necessarily as secure as they are often marketed as.
Fun fact: In the science fiction book “Qualityland” by Marc-Uwe Kling one biometric after another was shown to be insecure, leading to the people having do kiss their tablets/phones for authorizing money transfers, using OneKiss™, which is so more secure than other ways of authentication (trust me bro).
madame_gaymes@programming.dev
on 26 May 13:50
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Why do people assume that a new biometric is more secure than the ones already in use? In all cases, an authority figure only has to knock you out and they have all the access they need.
Even Spaceballs shows just how easy this is to defeat.
Tbf, it also shows that a large amount of people will use extremely weak passwords. Also on their luggage!
madame_gaymes@programming.dev
on 26 May 23:40
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It does sound like something an idiot would do!
SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org
on 26 May 15:28
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No thanks.
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de
on 26 May 23:14
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Palm biometrics is less worse because you have the option not to give in to biometrics, unlike facial biometrics that there is no option not to give in
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Hello dear Passwords.
But how does this compete against the Verification Can™?
I remember hearing about palm veins a decade ago, what makes this boom different?
I was curious, so I had to look it up. Turns out, Aristotle found and already written treatise on the idea of palm reading… I know it’s not exactly palm “finger” printing, but even our ancestors knew palms were unique.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry
My voice is my passport, verify me.
Welp, I know what I’m replaying this weekend.
(On second thought I don’t know if you’re quoting the game Uplink, or Sneakers. Both are good)
I don’t expect other people to understand this but I do expect you to understand this. We started this journey together.
The young lady with the uzi…Is she single?
Consider me sceptical.
If something could read them then I’m sure something can take that and copy it
A few years ago I saw a talk how some hackers where able to fool arm vein scanners. I think it was a talk on the chaos communication congress
Was it done in such way it could just as easy to fool multiple scanners at the same time? As in scanning eye, finger and palm at the same time. Though I wonder how expensive/difficult/error prone it would be to implement something like that.
No, it was only focused on that one biometric. You can always just add another for security, though it is good to keep in mind, that bionetrics aren’t necessarily as secure as they are often marketed as. Fun fact: In the science fiction book “Qualityland” by Marc-Uwe Kling one biometric after another was shown to be insecure, leading to the people having do kiss their tablets/phones for authorizing money transfers, using OneKiss™, which is so more secure than other ways of authentication (trust me bro).
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Marc-UwU Kling
Why do people assume that a new biometric is more secure than the ones already in use? In all cases, an authority figure only has to knock you out and they have all the access they need.
Even Spaceballs shows just how easy this is to defeat.
Tbf, it also shows that a large amount of people will use extremely weak passwords. Also on their luggage!
It does sound like something an idiot would do!
No thanks.
Palm biometrics is less worse because you have the option not to give in to biometrics, unlike facial biometrics that there is no option not to give in
Great until you lose your arm in an arms race or something. Locked out of your own home, armless. Lost the race, arm and home.